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Snow does not fall as saline water, What was the salinity of the worlds oceans 12,000 years ago?
The oceans get increasingly saline over time.
Sorry for being ignorant, I do not live in the USA
What exactly did Obama say, and in what context was it said?
think alng the lines of comparing arsenic and mercury to carbon dioxide. the potus is either ignorant, stupid or a liar . if this is the kind of leader americans vote in,well sorry,but they deserve everything that is coming to them.
how gullible does someone have to be to believe the shit that just came out his mouth in that speech,the man is an utter cretin.
You could avail yourself to a search engine. I think you would find that he said something to the effect that his ascent to the office of President will mark the time when the sea began to stop their rise, or something like that.
not on the uk broadcast i watched . he said exactly what i said he did.
I think Steve is referring to Obama’s victory speech at the 2008 democratic convention:
“Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal;”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/03/obamas-nomination-victory_n_105028.html
The man in an insane megalomaniac. Unfortunately, those may be some of his better qualities.
Oh, I thought it would be a function of depth, where can I go to find out more about this?
http://geology.com/stories/13/salt-domes/
What’s the source f or the graphic?
This probably isn’t the original source, but it is from 2007. Right hand side, near the bottom of the page:
http://www.windows2universe.org/earth/climate/sea_level_rise.html
every single person in the world today will be dead before they can physically see a change in sea level . if people want to believe the utter crap spouted by anyone that says they can define sea level to tenths of a mm in among the noise in level changes orders of magnitude greater caused by barometric changes, lunar cycles and atmospheric water vapour changes ,feel free.
people that have the ability to think on the other hand will laugh at you.
If only Skeeter were a moron, then we would never have known him.
“There can be little doubt that we have a world class moron in the White House” ? No just a politician. The man’s job is to administer an Empire, for whoever, so don’t expect objectivity from him, he would be removed if he didn’t mind his place.
The speed has been less than 5000 mm in 5000 years. Now it is 2-3 mm/year. surely this is faster than millennial average. It still is much less than satisfying. 🙂
Green need over 10 mm year soon to really reach the several metres/century target they set.
Actually, the tide gauges say nearer 1 – 1.5mm/year on average.
Which gauges? There is a lot of data available, and they provide quite complicated picture. There are plenty of places to measure the level, each giving a relatively different and local result.
The tide gauges and historical data from continental shelves and such measure sea level as seen at the coast, where as satellite measurements measure also waves of warm water at wide ocean. So the two measure different things. Sea level here and sea level there.
It is Archimedes in action.
The question may also rise, did the satellites calibrate well since they don’t seem to match the sea level here.
People don’t understand how complex concept the sea level is. It is flattened to an increasing number to scare people, but actually the local effects (waves, tides, storm surges, low air pressure) overcome yearly effects by factor of 1000.
Hugh.. if you graph all tide gauges you get a sort whole bunch in the middle and tails either side.
The ones in the middle are the “stable” tide markers (ie insignificant land movement), and they mostly lie between about 0.5m/year and 1.5mm/year..
And NONE of the stable tide markers show any acceleration at all.
Here is one of those stable tide gauges, happens to be nearest to whare I live.
http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_global_station.htm;jsessionid=D26EA50215F7738A176454DB069EC2DC?stnid=680-140
See, absolutely no change in the trend over 125 years.
Absolutely NO CO2 forced change in warming.
No acceleration in SL rise…
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/09/inconvenient-truth-sea-level-rise-has.html
The SL was higher then current, and peaked in the mid Holocene. https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/04/28/understanding-sea-level-rise-3/#comment-519117
I frequently wonder why there is never any discussion regarding movement of tectonic plates brought into the debate. For instance, in my country, one side is going downwards, the other is being lifted up out of the sea. So the issues regarding encroachment of the sea has far more to do with this effect that anything else.
Sea level rise is the crux of the biscuit. If the sea level rise is not accelerating, the entire AGW theory is 100% proven wrong and there cannot be any way to squirm out of it.
The ocean is a thermometer for pete’s sake.
morgan, that is far too simplistic an explanation,climate science will never acknowledge any such statement unless the numbers can be mathturbated to death to prove carbon dioxide did it .
fortunately there are people like tony around to keep their feet to the fire. in the future i daresay these blog archives will show just how right he was.
If sea level starts falling, I’m sure Jimmy Hansen will point to it as proof of global warming. Just last week he informed us that he’d predicted increasing Antarctic ice all along, so he’s completely vindicated. Of course, he’d forgotten to tell us about this prediction until now, but he assures us he wrote it down 30 years ago. Somewhere. You’ll just have to trust him.
There simply isn’t any outcome that wouldn’t be held up as proof of their religious truths.
“Just last week he informed us that he’d predicted increasing Antarctic ice all along,”
And Antarctic sea ice immediately started to decrease. ! 🙂
Sea levels here on the Cape coast have been known to be 30 meters higher than what they are at present. I think the [South African] Cape coast is the oldest in the world?
Could it have been something to do with the sun?