The Ship of Fools sees all of the historical structures along the Northeast Passage, notes that there are no ships there now due to all the ice, and concludes that there has been a large reduction in sea ice – which will continue.
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The ice extent is nearly identical to what it was 45 years ago.
Just like 1971.
In the 1730’s and 1740’s people were able to sail to places which are currently inaccessible.
The Ship of Fools believe that the ice is disappearing, because the experts tell them it is. What they see with their own eyes is ignored.
I don’t know what’s the matter with people: they don’t learn by understanding; they learn by some other way – by rote, or something. Their knowledge is so fragile!
Richard P. Feynman
To be fair to Hempleman-Adam. I think he meant that the Soviet Arctic activity was due to the cold war tensions rather than sea ice changes.
Maybe or maybe not. I have respect for Hempleman-Adams because of his accomplishments and I’m trying to like the man but I find some of his posts hard to swallow. All this comrade here, comrade there, idealism of the day, Bolshevik Island, great names—is he really so clueless?
Is he really so holed up in his insular “famous adventurer” world to know nothing about the history of the Soviet Far East and Far North? Many of the same explorers who preceded him there ended up in the Gulag just like the man after whom their island is named, polar pilot Vasily Makhotkin. Does he not know the “wooden structures” he is seeing along the coast were built by zeks, the Gulag prisoners who were dying by the thousands of hunger, cold and exhaustion in the very same places?
Does Hempleman-Adams not know that Gulag prisoners were sent by the shiploads via the Arctic route to the Soviet Far East slave labor camps in Kolyma?
http://www.azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/ai141_folder/141_articles/141_kolyma.html
A thousand years from now, some researcher will examine the well-fertilized rings of a tree that grew next to a Soviet mass grave and sagely pronounce, “Yes… the middle of the 20th century was a particularly warm spell in Siberia…”
Location of Kolyma, in the Arctic Circle in Siberia not far from Alaska:
Here’s is the idealism of the day:
Good point actually as the “idealism” H-Adams talks of was only shared among people like Stalin -mass murderer, Beria not only a cold mass murderer but a sexual deviant who raped, murdered under aged girls and then disposed of the bodies on the ample state building grounds and the other corrupt murdering cronies who came and went. I’d wager that the whole crew are fairly left-wing as its tends to go with the AGW territory.
“I’d wager that the whole crew are fairly left-wing as its tends to go with the AGW territory.”
Both belief systems require the same mental acuity.
Or is it possible Hempleman-Adams does not even know what Gulag was?
Below is a drawing of Gulag arrival made by one of the prisoners. It may reminds people of the more idealist days of heroic Soviet past …
Errata: It may remind
sI was getting sicker and sicker as I was typing. There could be more typos but I have to step away from this so I don’t throw up.
I understood that you don’t believe National Geographic maps of the Arctic?
https://realclimatescience.com/2015/08/spectacular-climate-fraud-from-national-geographic/
But the point is you do.
Maps and information published prior to NatGeo joining the media scream about “climate change” are far more likely to be credible than the later ones. Especially when their map shows no resemblance to reality as indicated by other sources. But of course you would act like you have no idea why Tony called out the inaccuracy of that particular map.
You don’t believe the Russian sources of “reality” either?
http://www.aari.ru/odata/_d0015.php?lang=1&mod=0&yy=2012
What I know is that the best sign you’ve been backed into a corner is when you become disingenuous or obtuse. Just like now.
Have you looked at the AARI map?
If so what is it that you fail to understand?
No it’s not what I don’t understand but what I do understand. The image you have provided is dated 2012. The Nat Geo map in question is from 2015.
2015 is after 2012 is it not?
Nat Geo decided (controversially!) to show multi-year ice extent in their new atlas. The “reality” depicted by the AARI map seems to tie in quite nicely with the Nat Geo map, does it not?
who would be stupid enough to believe a map of something that does not look that way?
That post made it quite clear that the 1971 map was credible, but the 2015 map wasn’t. Do you always have reading comprehension problems Jim?
Jim is just being deliberately obtuse. Something people do when they don’t have anything constructive to say.
You are that dumb,Jimmy?
The 1971 and 2015 Arctic map are nearly the same.
National Geographic in 1971 was then NOT suffering from AGW hysteria, with a good reputation for map making. Today as Tony showed,they LIED in 2015 because they are caught up in the stupid AGW scam.
You have an education and have access to the data,therefore stop being an ass over it.
For normal people, your final admonition may well be good advice. Then there are those who are incapable of making any positive change in their behaviour, short of a miracle.
It is really TOUGH to pound information into someone’s noggin when he is PAID to spread disinformation.
It is even tougher to pound information in when it dribbles out faster than you can pound…
I do indeed Tommy. Their own server seems to be down, so here’s the Yank’s mirror of the Russian’s 1971 data:
ftp://sidads.colorado.edu/pub/DATASETS/NOAA/G02176/pngs/1971/
“National Geographic” is owned by Rupert Murdock and his Progressive children. They will promote Man-Made Climate regardless of the facts.
They need a higher yard arm on that boat. They seem to be hitting the bottle very early in the day.
seems to be the Arctic booze cruise
Some are only drinking from sun up to sun down, but considering the long days, that is quite a lot.
There seems to be a new log entry.
http://polarocean.co.uk/today-maintenance-checking-engine-chart-plotter-generator-oven/
They say they are expecting new ice charts tomorrow.
Another update from H-Adams
http://polarocean.co.uk/
“Had a great meal of Pizza, with every topping under the Sun, Vodka flowed for Navy day, and wine flowed for British day. Music played in the background for the first time from our iPods and everyone very chilled.” and then shortly followed by
“Its getting to that Vodka hour. I might treat the boys to a slurp and sausage.”
All I can say is Thank F**k its a dry boat or otherwise the AA would have to sponsor the whole thing.
The ice chart update is due tomorrow which begs the question when asked if the Northabout is having problems with the ice will Hemple-Adams answered no we have plenty in the ice -box its the vodka running low that concerns us.
And I hope ‘slurp and sausage’ is not old seaman’s code concerning the cabin boy; being in this case Ben.
From a rather obscene old Army Jody:
“The captain had a cabin boy-a dirty little nipper- the crew packed his ass full of glass-and circumcised the skipper”