Last year, the fake news Washington Post reported that skeptic Andreas Munchow became convinced of global warming by studying the behavior of Greenland’s Petermann Glacier since 2012.
Fascinating propaganda, except for the fact that the Petermann Glacier has grown several kilometers since 2012.
And Greenland’s surface has gained ten times as much mass this year as 2012.
Greenland Ice Sheet Surface Mass Budget: DMI
Greenland’s glaciers are gaining both area and depth, but climate alarmists operate in the fourth dimension
Well they won’t scare anyone by telling the truth, lying is the only alternative. What other choice do anti-human tyrannical fascist leftists have?
Actually I think they are racist too because they hate human race.
Summit, Greenland is currently sitting at a balmy -11 F this evening. You can’t blame us skeptical scientists for not quite buying into the alarmist’s insistence that there is rapid melting of the ice cap taking place.
From his studies of little boys bums on waterslides Griffie has determined that even at -11 F all the Greenland ice will slide into the ocean just like the cute little kiddies at the waterpark as they zip down the waterslide.
Munchow is another fake skeptic just like Richard Muller. He should change his name to Munchhausen.
Helheim Glacier is back to where it was in about 2005 – and they are freaking out.
Can you give me a source? All I can find is old info showing the retreat.
Hey – traveling- terrible internet connection. I’ll post two graphics from two separate studies. Curiously – sarc – the later one doesn’t knowledge, the longer known terminus locations. In the moment there’s a lot of freaking out, that the current terminus is back approx to where it was in 2005.
And here, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/figures/doi/10.1029/2005GL024737#figure-viewer-grl20802-fig-0002 — see figure #2.
Trying to locate the study from where I grabbed the attached graphic.
Here’s another informative one: http://www.glacierresearch.com/locations/helheim/img/Hel-terminus-20012010-MODIS.png
Whereas Tony Heller operates in the fifth dimension? Where glaciers don’t flow downhill?
Here’s a “new” island just released by a different Greenland glacier:
Learn some FACTS Jimbo, you clown
GLACIERS CALVE.
They have done so over millennia.
GET OVER IT!
Of course they do Andy.
Such as just before Tony’s cherry picked image above. Here’s August 5th 2012:
Here’s a photo from the same day in 2010 showing a very large iceberg had broken off the glacier itself.
What is abnormal about what Greenland glaciers doing what they always have? Can you please elaborate Jim, because I don’t know what conclusion you’re trying to grasp straws at.
It’s all ice porn to Genocide Jim. Anything that takes food from the mouths of poor brown people is pure gold to GJ.
AZ – Because our genial host asserts “Greenland’s glaciers are gaining both area and depth” but the so called “evidence” he provides proves nothing of the sort.
As you helpfully point out, if you go back to the summer of 2010 it becomes even more evident that Petermann Glacier is currently reducing in area. Should Tony bother to check he would evidently be surprised to discover that the other half of his assertion is incorrect too:
https://youtu.be/opYSUbjb_wU
You poor petal Jimbo.
Your insignificant life is made up of trying to manufacture SCARY scenarios as the world beneficially warms from the coldest bleakest period in the last 10,000 years.
You do know that Greenland ice area is pretty much at its highest in 8000 years, don’t you.
Perhaps if you ADMIT this fact, and became less ignorant, you wouldn’t feel the moronic need for your constant chicken-little sea ice bed-wetting.
Come on Jimbo, I dare to admit the that fact on an open forum..
Another question..
How long SHOULD the Peterman Glacier be,, give reasons for your answer. What is its optimum position, and why does it matter.
Do you have the guts to answer?
“A series of satellite images from 2002 through 2009 illustrate that the terminus of the glacier has advanced towards the ocean, however, several lateral rifts have developed also. The distance of this rifts or cracks back from the terminus has diminished for this time period also and may serve as a precursor to natural ice calving from Petermann Glacier.[5] A large chunk estimated to be 100 square miles (260 km2) calved off the glacier[6] in August, 2010.””
“The Peterman glacier has grown several kilometers in length since 2012. The development can be seen on NASA Satellite Imagery.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petermann_Glacier
You do know that the current Greenland area is only just a TINY amount below the highest its been in 8000 years, don’t you Jimbo.
Or are you WILFULLY and MORONICALLY IGNORANT of that..
…. as you are with everything else?
Here’s August 17th 2011 for you Andy:
Odd that you choose to show different years.
You seem to be SLIMING and slithering, as always.
Calved in 2011, and has now grown again, back to 2011 levels….
… is that what you are trying to show us? !
Do take your foot out of your mouth before you type, Jimbo..
You continue to make yourself look like a moronic fool. !
So what you are saying Jim is that if climate “scientists” where real scientists, that glacier termini would have large error bars if expressed numerically. Of course climate “scientists” never use error bars, because a 1 degree change in measurements with error much larger than 1 degree isnt all that alarming.
Look again Andy.
There was a big calving of Petermann a few days before Tony’s 2017 image. He carefully selected the date and crop of his image to ensure the resulting “ice island” was out of frame.
Cherry picking par excellence!
r/2017/2012/
Tony clearly illustrated that the ice advanced from 2012 to 2017, and an “ice island” does not change this fact.
Why do you hate poor brown people Genocide Jim?
So , after the calving, there was still the same length left as in 2011.
Seems Peterman Glacier is GROWING…
NATURALLY..
Poor Jimbo, STILL looking like a moronic fool.
.. you must be sick of the taste of your sewer laden socks.
ADMIT to the fact that Greenland ice area is only just a tiny amount down from the LIA peak, and way above what it has been for most of the last 8000 years.
OR…. are you going to continue to slither and slime , avoiding the facts , like the cowardly yellowback troll you have always been.
Now let’s take a look at the day after Tony’s 2017 cherry pick shall we Gator?
Jim,
You really looking desperate with your BS
Indeed Tony …. I wonder why Jim isn’t telling us of the progress of his north pole sailors. They must be on a tear to the pole as I type, all the while having a burger on the barby and drinking Corona in the hellish hot arctic. Hopefully obvious sarc.
Nothing new there Genocide Jim. Glacier still advancing and calving, as it has done for eons.
Why do you work to take attention and resources away from the starving?
Why do you hate poor brown people Genocide Jim?
Tony – Now let’s directly compare 2011 with 2017 on the same day of the year shall we?
Still seeing a perfectly normal process, and seeing that you have now thrown in 2011.
Why do you hate poor brown people Genocide Jim?
Looks like pretty much the same as in 2011.. wouldn’t you agree, Jimbo.
Foot in mouth disease seems recurrent with you
Gator – Why does Tony continue to post images suggesting that melange is part of a glacier?
Does he not know the difference?
Genocide Jim, Tony is working to defund your genocide, and he does this partly by comparing satellite images. Nature decides where the ice calves, and humans have no control over this. Tony does not own the satellites or their imagery, and provides what is available. Melange is part of the glacier, until it isn’t. Melange is simply the growing glacier’s way of shedding excess ice. The fact is that there is nothing unusual or unprecedented taking place in the Arctic.
I applaud Tony’s efforts in illustrating that there is nothing in the Artctic about which to be alarmed. Tony and I are part of the vast majority of humanity that believes that human life is more important than ice.
Now that I have answered your question, how about answering mine you anti-human lyinng coward.
Why do you hate poor brown people?
Gator – I’ll take that as a “No he doesn’t” then shall I?
Genocide Jim, all you do is take.
Why do you hate poor brown people?
Glaciers calve. ….. FACT.
Yet you totally ignore that fact that current levels are above those of all but the LIA.
Seems you are intent on continuing your WILFULLY and MORONICALLY IGNORANCE..
But wilful ignorance is the ONLY way you can continue to push your PUTRID little CON web site, isn’t it Jimbo.
And Greenland temperatures (Raw data) show that save for one year this millennia, no year has been warmer than 1940 these past 70 or so years.
I ought to have attached the below chart detailing Greenland temp data.
https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Screenshot-2016-01-21-at-06.51.52-AM.png
One can clearly see that there is just one recent year when temps have been as warm as those around 1940.
The trends from 1900 is up, but the trend from 1930 is down.
Whilst it would be wrong to cherry pick start dates, it should be noted that the trend during the period of significant manmade emissions (1930s onwards) is down which suggests that the level of manmade emissions is not a significant player in what is happening in Greenland.
In combined temperature series from southwest Greenland from the period 1784-2005, the 1930’s and 1940’s were the warmest decades
http://www.dmi.dk/en/klima/klimaet-frem-til-i-dag/groenland/
The large break-off events at the Petermann Glacier were caused by two large rifts that had been travelling down the glacier for over a decade. They are clearly visible in this NASA image from the year 2000. https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/9000/9085/petermann_ast_2000213_lrg.jpg
The same NASA website shows similar images for each subsequent year and so one can watch the progress of these rifts as they move down the glacier.
I have not been able to find any similar images for 1999 or earlier years and I would be grateful for any 1990-2000 information or imagery.
How about looking at cooling from a different perspective, plant hardiness in the USA in 1960 and 1990.
https://www.iceagenow.com/PlantHardinessMaps.htm
A thought occurred to me this morning…
When our founding fathers wrote the first amendment, there was no such thing as “Assault” TV. They were talking about black and white printed paper. And even then, one of them tried proposed “The Alien & Sedition Acts of 1798.”