Twelve Years Of No Trend In Arctic Sea Ice Extent


No doubt we will hear a retraction and apology soon from these gentlemen.

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Gore: Polar ice cap may disappear by summer 2014

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29 Responses to Twelve Years Of No Trend In Arctic Sea Ice Extent

  1. rah says:

    “No doubt we will hear a retraction and apology soon from these gentlemen.

    LOL! Gentlemen?

    If I saw them on fire I wouldn’t even piss on them.

  2. R Shearer says:

    Swings are great for they playground, lots of movement but the kids don’t go anywhere.

  3. jackson says:

    If people believed what was said because someone had predicted exactly what was going to happen– that is understandable.
    But now we can see what was said is not exactly what is happening.

    It is a funny thing about ‘belief’– once one has placed his ‘belief’ in something, the evidence no longer matters.
    It is a wonderful thing and a horrible thing about humans IMHO.

    • David Appell says:

      Predictions are impossible in climate science.

      • spike55 says:

        Predictions are impossible in climate science.

        We know..

        All AGW climate predictions/projections have been WRONG.

        Thanks for pointing that out, putz !!

        • David Appell says:

          No, all climate predictions haven’t been wrong.

          Do you know of Wallace Broecker’s prediction in 1975?

          Wallace S. Broecker, Science Vol. 189 no. 4201 pp. 460-463, August 8, 1975

          And Hansen’s 1981 predictions?

          • spike55 says:

            Hansen predicted ABOVE current temperature with ZERO increase in atmospheric CO2.

            You are LYING, as always grub-ridden appell.

          • spike55 says:

            Figure 1 in your link is MANIFESTLY WRONG.

            There has been no warming except the 2015/2016 El Nino transient since 2001.

            Gees you really are PATHETIC at this low-end anti-science trolling rotten-appell.

          • spike55 says:

            Great that is shows the peak around 1940ish.. now “adjusted ” out .

            So funny.

            At least look at what you are posting, moron.

          • AndyDC says:

            How can you believe people that shamelessly alter data (cheat) to “prove” a dubious hypothesis? That without fail pick a cold extreme to cherry pick their starting dates?

      • rah says:

        “David Appell says:
        December 6, 2018 at 5:36 am
        Predictions are impossible in climate science.”

        The hell they are! I predict that the preponderance of scientific “peer reviewed” papers during 2019 on weather phenomena will blame “climate change” for that weather.

        I predict that climate change believers will fight the removal of endangered status for Polar bears based on the model projections of “climate scientists”.

        I could go on but I guess you’ve got the idea.

      • sunsettommy says:


        You mean, ACCURATE far into the future predictions are impossible…….?

        The IPCC made a number of prediction/projections that are already failures, thus the AGW nonsense should have been over.

  4. David Appell says:

    You are wrong, Tony H.

    The trend in Arctic SIE since 11/2006 is -45 +/- 12 Kkm2/yr (95% confidence limit).

    Per NSIDC data at:

  5. David Appell says:

    Can’t rebut my facts, clearly.

    PS: I”m glad you keep thinking of me.

  6. Keith says:

    Tony, further to the Indian Ocean and Pacific Ocean islands allegedly sinking under the waves, this article is very useful: Duvat, V.K.E. 2018. A global assessment of atoll island planform changes over the past decades. WIREs Climate Change. 2018; e557.

    In it, the author shows that of 709 Indian Ocean and Pacific Ocean islands repeat measured, 89% were either stable or increased in area. Only 11% reduced in area.

    It is based on an Atoll Island database. Older surveys date from the 1900’s, 1960’s, 1970’s and 1980’s and are compared to recent surveys in 2013 and 2014.
    best wishes……..

  7. Al Shelton says:

    David A. cannot face the truth… He should seek psychoanalysis.

    Courage is a precious commodity in psychoanalysis. Psychological growth cannot happen with out it. Both analyst and patient must draw upon it. But courage for what, you ask? Courage to face the truth. This is the guiding principle, the North Star of psychoanalysis. And it is an essential aspect of any kind of positive change.

    Why does it take courage to face the truth?

    It takes courage to face the truth because the truth comes will all sorts of anxieties, disappointments, and responsibilities which we would rather avoid. The truth can be painful. It can be challenging. It means we must pull our heads out of the sand and do something to help ourselves—wake up, get up, stand up, pony up, man up, grow up.

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