“Democracy Dies In Darkness”

Climate experts have informed us that three days of warm weather in Greenland last month is climate.

Surface Conditions: Polar Portal

They have also determined that a 200 billion ton gain in ice since September is actually a loss, and that about half as much melt as 2012 is the largest on record.

Greenland’s surface has gained 1,250 billion tons of ice over the past three years, about 250 billion tons above the 1981-2010 mean. How surprising that the world’s leading papers failed to mention this. “Democracy Dies in Darkness”

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Melt this year has been just over half of 2012. The Washington Post says this year is on track to be the largest on record.

The Washington Post also says Arctic sea ice is at a record low.

Greenland could set a record for the most ice lost in a single melt season – The Washington Post

Arctic sea ice is nowhere near a record low, and is melting slowly. This summer is likely to finish highest in the past five years.

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17 Responses to “Democracy Dies In Darkness”

  1. Gator says:

    And millions die needlessly each year because leftists hate poor brown people.

  2. arn says:

    Yesterday i ran the 100m dash in 27.95 seconds.
    A new world record because i”m a climate scientist.

  3. Al Shelton says:

    I would still like to know how much the wind affects the lows.
    Were there not strong winds in 2012?

    • None of your beewax says:

      There’s usually not that much wind on the north pole because there’s one huge HPA hovering over it.

      Or at least it was before the jetstream broke down. Average summer temperatures have actually gone *down very, very slightly*, which should actually strengthen the jetstream – but the darn thing just keeps doing whatever it wants.

      http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plus80n/anoplus80N_summer_winter_engelsk.png

      It breaking down allowed the HPA that caused the heatwave in Europe end of July to move up north almost completely unhindered, causing the dip Tony pointed out as “Climate” in his first graph. Meanwhile Russia is under arctic air bombardment, but you don’t see the media giving a damn about that because it ruins the narrative of this being “the warmest year ever”.

      Note that the jetstream broke down *first*, and then the dip appeared. The ice was *well* into its yearly scheduled recovered; and it actually shows that climate scientists have *no* idea what is even going on because their two points are:
      1. the planet is getting hotter.
      2. breakdown of the jetstream is caused by lower temp differences between equator and poles.

      Problem with the second point is that since north pole summer temps have gone down slightly equator temps must have gone down *severely* – which would contradict the first point. No matter how you look at it, it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

  4. etudiant says:

    You are entirely right, there was a strong storm system that helped break up the ice in 2012, contributing to the record low ice that year, by volume as well as by extent.

    More generally, it is necessary to look at the fine print when comparing the statistics and charts, because we have at least three separate measures for ice, the volume, the area and the extent, with the former usually based on some estimate of the portion (usually at least 15%) of ice cover extent that is actually ice. Volume is probably the best measure and it is a bit above the 2015 level as of Aug 9,2019.
    http://polarportal.dk/en/sea-ice-and-icebergs/sea-ice-thickness-and-volume/

  5. Phil. says:

    Climate experts have informed us that three days of warm weather in Greenland last month is climate.

    Whereas Tony thinks it’s important to highlight that only one day in the last month lost less than the average for the date!

    Arctic sea ice is nowhere near a record low, and is melting slowly. This summer is likely to finish highest in the past five years.

    Day dreaming again, this summer will most likely finish a close second to the record year of 2012. The 2012 seaice is only slightly ahead of this year, and that only as a result of a major storm which occurred at this time of year.

    Melt this year has been just over half of 2012. The Washington Post says this year is on track to be the largest on record.

    Based on the graph you show, (precipitation-melt) since mid-May this year has fallen by ~300GT compared with about 500GT.
    You haven’t shown any data for ‘melt’.

    • Gator says:

      And yet there is still more ice in the Arctic than the average of the past 9000 years.

      Why are you focused on this site Phail? And why do you care more about meaningless ice than the millions who needlessly starve each year? I’m still waiting for you to remove the beam from the alarmist eye. Waiting…

      Phail has it really bad.

    • spike55 says:

      “You haven’t shown any data for ‘melt’.”

      Another PHAILURE from the insipid brainless one.

      He most definitely did show the amount of melt.

      It is you that lacks any brains to comprehend with.

      Greenland ice area is only a tiny amount down from its highest in 8000 years

      Arctic sea ice is still in the top 5-10% of the last 10,000 years.

      Try not to remain an IGNORANT PHAILURE all your miserable life,!!

      • Phil. says:

        “You haven’t shown any data for ‘melt’.”

        Another PHAILURE from the insipid brainless one.

        He most definitely did show the amount of melt.

        As explained above he did not, sorry you can’t understand plain english.

        Arctic sea ice is nowhere near a record low, and is melting slowly. This summer is likely to finish highest in the past five years.

        Again this statement was nonsense as Arctic sea ice is a very close second to the record year of 2012 and continues to melt at the same rate as that year. This summer will not “finish highest in the past five years” since it is already below the minimum value for 2014 and still an average of 30 days until minimum. It will likely pass the 2017 and 2018 minimums in about a week.

        Tony throws these statements out and when his errors are pointed out doesn’t respond he just lets know-nothing sycophants like spike come on and spout their gibberish.

        • Gator says:

          Are you really trying to say that Mass Loss does not include melt? LOL

          The term surface mass balance is used for the gain and loss of mass at the surface of the ice sheet. This includes melting, snowfall, refreezing of melt water and evaporation of snow (sublimation). Daily maps of this will often look quite different from maps showing occurrence of surface melting.

          http://polarportal.dk/en/news/news/what-is-the-difference-between-surface-mass-balance-and-melting/

          Tony throws these statements out and when his errors are pointed out doesn’t respond

          What about all the massively failed predictions from your alarmist mentors? How do they respond when you nitpick their innumerable enormous face plants?

          • Phil. says:

            Are you really trying to say that Mass Loss does not include melt? LOL

            No I explicitly stated that the quantity plotted was (Precipitation-melt), can’t you read.
            The following which you posted confirmed my statement.

            “The term surface mass balance is used for the gain and loss of mass at the surface of the ice sheet. This includes melting, snowfall, refreezing of melt water and evaporation of snow (sublimation). Daily maps of this will often look quite different from maps showing occurrence of surface melting.”

            What about all the massively failed predictions from your alarmist mentors?

            I don’t have any.

  6. griff says:

    Congratulations! At last an SMB chart, allowing readers to see this year there is massive loss.

    Now all you need to do is link to a decent extent chart showing more than just the last 5 years, in a format with a decent scale. The DMI one is no use to man nor beast…

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