Real Climate Screws Up

Posted on May 13, 2013 by Tony Heller

They published this graph, which shows that sea level rise has not accelerated since the 19th century. I added the red trend line.

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RealClimate: The answer is blowing in the wind: The warming went into the deep end

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20 Responses to Real Climate Screws Up

  1. Will Nitschke says:
    May 13, 2013 at 10:08 pm

    Maybe not, but sea water has become both wetter and drier according to the science of extreme sea level rise events.

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    • miked1947 says:
      May 13, 2013 at 10:13 pm

      That is almost as good as the dehydrated water I am trying to sell for emergency preparedness. Just add H2O! 😉

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      • PhilJourdan says:
        May 14, 2013 at 1:09 am

        Just make sure you do not add hydrogen hydroxide! That stuff kills thousands every year!

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        • miked1947 says:
          May 14, 2013 at 2:01 am

          I put a warning label on the packages warning about the dangers of using both dihydrogen monoxide and hydrogen hydroxide. Both are nasty chemicals!

  2. miked1947 says:
    May 13, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    We still do not know what the “Y” axis represents. It could be Nonometers for all we know!

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  3. miked1947 says:
    May 13, 2013 at 10:15 pm

    Steven:
    It is now Real Climate Denial, They have improved the site and deserve to be recognized with an additional descriptor.

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  4. NoMoreGore says:
    May 13, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    There appears to be some diminishing Polar Bear habitat floating there in the background. They should have thrown in a dead bear for good measure….

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  5. Scott says:
    May 14, 2013 at 12:23 am

    Is it just my IPod or is your trend line too steep?

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  6. Scott Scarborough says:
    May 14, 2013 at 1:35 am

    Every part of the plot is below your trend line from about 1910 to 2001. The only parts of the plot that are above the trend line are a few points in the 19th century. This plot is from 1870 to 2001, right? What I see on my Ipod and my computer is not a least squares fit.

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  7. Olaf Koenders says:
    May 14, 2013 at 6:21 am

    I had to fling some stuff at (Un)RealClimate, reiterated below – Knowing those cowards, I doubt it’ll see the light of day. As of writing this, it’s still in moderation.. 😉

    “In addition, they found that the deep ocean has warmed over the recent years, while the upper 300m of the oceans have ‘stabilised’.

    That’s just silly. ARGO can’t find it. You seem to suggest that hot water doesn’t rise. There’s even a comment here from someone stating “heat is not temperature”. WHAT?!

    Notably your “chart” above doesn’t show any acceleration whatsoever and, there’s no Y-scale. Are you measuring this in phlogistons?

    Sea levels have been rising for tens of thousands of years, since the last deep ice age ended. There’s no acceleration evident today. Have you taken land subsidence into account? Have you even noticed charts of where it’s slowed?

    How did the Australian Aborigine cross the oceans to get here? Maybe you should see this:

    http://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/objects-through-time/essays/50000-years-before-present/attachment/map-of-ice-age-aust

    You seem utterly convinced that man-made CO2 (still a tiny trace gas in our atmosphere at 0.0397%) is going to burn the planet to hell tomorrow. Of course, when it comes to doomsayers, it’s always tomorrow, next week or in the future. That just continues until the next fearmongering “fad” comes along to be likewise always “predicted” in the future. Some questions for you:

    Every exhalation is around 4% CO2 (40,000ppm – atmospere now 397ppm). How is it you don’t burn your tongue in the sun when you exhale that ENORMOUS 4% of CO2?

    How is it that delicate aragonite corals evolved when CO2 was some 20x higher than today?

    With CO2 so much higher in the past and you expecting a LINEAR scale to CO2 heat trapping effect, why was there never a runaway greenhouse, ever?

    How is it that CO2 was many times higher than today even during deep ice ages?

    You understand that CO2 is necessary for photosynthesis and farmers actually pump CO2 into their greenhouses to increase yields, right?

    Do you know that Viking graves in Greenland now are in permafrost – something you can’t dig without hydraulics? Vikings colonised and farmed Greenland 1000 years ago, why did they leave 300 years later?

    The Little Ice Age is documented in paintings from the 1600’s where the Thames and Hudson rivers froze 10ft thick and the locals held fairs on them. Are you aware of this at all? Are you aware this was caused by the “Maunder Minimum”, a time when very few Sunspots and Solar activity occurred?

    Do you remember when an imminent “ice age” was predicted in the 70’s?

    Are you aware that Global temps rose sharply between 1910 and 1940, then fell sharply between the 40’s to the 70’s? Did Man have something to do with it or is my next question the answer?

    Do you understand the cycles of the oceans (PDO, AMO, ENSO) and their impact from warm to cool and back again over regular decadal scales?

    Why is it that in a desert, you can fry during the day and freeze at night, but not in the tropics? What magical atmospheric component is missing in a desert to cause this and therefore, is CO2 actually trapping any catastrophic heat at all? A clue – notice how the night is usually warmer when it’s overcast?

    Have you noticed that CO2 continues to climb but Global temps have flatlined for the last 17 YEARS? Why the disconnect?

    Are you aware that according to well understood physical parameters, the effectiveness of CO2 as a greenhouse gas diminishes logarithmically with increasing concentration and from the current level of ~397 ppm, accordingly only ~5% of the effectiveness of CO2 as a greenhouse gas remains beyond the current level?

    Do you understand that warm water outgasses CO2 – try opening a warm and a cold bottle of soda water. Do you now understand that the oceans could never become “acidic”, considering their pH ranges from 7.9 to 8.3, depending on where you measure it and, that the pH scale is also logarithmic?

    How do you explain the findings of ancient tools and tree stumps under retreating glaciers?

    Have you seen the geologic records that show CO2 rising AFTER temp rises by some hundreds of years?

    Have you discovered Milankovitch Cycles – how the Earth has cyclical wobbles in its orbit being tugged on by other planets causing major changes in our distance from the Sun?

    Have you discovered that on very regular cycles, the Earth suffers a major ice age about every 100,000 years lasting many times longer than our current interglacial? Do you think that’s connected to my previous question?

    Why is it that some 90%+ of species live around the Equator?

    Figures are readily available to show winters kill more people than summers – have you looked into them and why do you think retirees look forward to living in warmer climates?

    Are you aware that the Arctic ice extent is now the same as the 1979 annual mean? Do you really think it’s going to be “ice free” at all this NH summer?

    Are you also aware that cat 3+ cyclones making landfall in the US and tornadoes are at record lows? The NOAA has figures on that if you dare look.

    Does it make sense that “climate scientists”, being largely (if not totally) government funded, need to continue blaming Man for CO2 ills since governments want to tax us on it and, if they say it’s not, they’ll lose their job?

    Frankly, all of the tip-toeing, cherry-picking and completely unscientific (if not impossible) explanations I see on this site in support of AGW are truly far-fetched wonders of the age. You seem to suggest that surface winds are somehow stopping hot water from rising? Nonsense. All that rubbish and referencing to desperately try and explain-away the now 17 year warming pause.

    If you get all the charts and scale them by whole degrees (something we might physically feel – maybe) then they’d be a straight line not even resembling static.

    People, have a good look around and you’ll find there are more questions that require answering before spouting for certain that Man is to blame for climate change. It’s been doing it for billions of years and will continue to do so. There’s NO peer-reviewed study out there that can scientifically and unequivocally state that they can filter out Man’s warming signal from the natural noise.

    If you keep believing point-blank the government and the lamestream media, you’ll look like a fool (you’re rapidly getting there) and have a lighter wallet to boot. Don’t be a puppet or a parrot to them. Remember this:

    “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic”.

    If you refuse to publish this post or delete it, the volumes about your “science” will have been spoken.

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    • daveburton says:
      July 1, 2014 at 9:22 am

      Olaf,
      Surprisingly, they did approve your comment at RC, though with the addition of a snarky comment at the end, from one of the moderators:

      “[normally this would go to the borehole. We’re going to allow this one through for amusement however. -moderator]”

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