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New comment on your post “July 1934 Was Much Hotter Than July 2010”
Author : KarmakazeComment:
I agree with Steve Goddard! Send this out to everyone you know, so they can see how stupid he is!Seriously, you do realise an anomaly map shows the difference from some standard temperature, right? You also saw that the 2010 map is the departure from the 1971 to 2000 normal, right?
So what is the 1934 temperature map comparing to, the pre 1934 normal? It’s not labelled on the map, but clearly it can’t be the SAME normal, can it?
Fool.
Our friend thinks he is on to something. He reasons that the two maps below use a different baseline, and that affects the outcome.
July, 2010 July, 1934
Being generous (i.e. accepting Hansen’s adjustments as legit) let’s pretend that the baseline on the 1934 map is 0.4 degrees lower than the baseline on the 2010 map. Given that the granularity of the color bands is 2.0 degrees, we would see very little (if any) change in the map. And we don’t have any way of obtaining that information anyway.
Now, if we look at a more legitimate scenario – i.e. Hansen’s map before if was corrupted – we see that there actually isn’t much (if any) difference in the baselines.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/fig1x.gif
The interesting thing about alarmists is that they tend display an uncanny lack of quantitative skill. For them the fact that the Earth has warmed a few tenths of a degree means that the world is coming to an end.
You’ve got to love the stupid claims!!!
I am tempted to just reply STFU and Grow A Brain! While I do not agree with the “Climate Normal” issue, at least both those are talking about departure from some arbitrary Normal. The “Climate Normal” was agreed upon in the 20s or 30s before they understood the Oscillation nature of climate and before the determined the 60 year average peak to peak or though to trough. The climate base is still stuck in 20s consensus and is running on outdated theories!
I missed the “Brilliant comment” but agree with you highlighting the claim!
Is it humane to continue to have battles of wit with unarmed people?
No! But it is more fun than pulling the wings off flies and watching them flop around!!! 😉 Even more fun than pulling one hind leg from a Grass hopper!
Can’t have two baselines, each of which claims a “normal” scenario. Notwithstanding that the word “normal” has no explanatory power.
That reminds me of Animal Farm, where some animals are more equal than others.
Let’s agree to use 1920-1950, for example, and call that normal. Measure normal or abnormal against that, always, all the time, forever and ever. Let is always hearken back to the wonderful halcyon years of absolute normalcy, the roaring twenties and the depression.
Because? It was obviously “normal” before the CO2 began to increase. We are talking about CO2, no? How can it be “normal” 1971-2000, when we were being swamped by toxic CO2?
This must be in the air. I have just commented on two other blogs and used Boxer and Napolean to make a point. Or is it great minds.. NAH in my case
Stop looking at 1934, and start looking at 1911 and 1919……
1934 was only adjusted down about a 1/4 degree..
….the real adjustments were earlier and larger
1911 and 1919 were both adjusted down a 1/2 degree………..
Looks like Russian heatwave in 1934. Imagine they had satellites then? USA would paying 90% carbon tax by now
Karmakaze,
If the 1930’s were not warmer than now there would have been no need for James Hansen to change the data. Have you contacted James Hansen about him changing data?
I choose the baseline 1919 to 1998, before the Hansen monkeybusiness with history. By that measure, we should be near or below the average right now. No warming, move along, nothing to see, drop your kool aid cups in the trash on your way out.