“I would not, however, include names like Lindzen, Spencer, Pielke with the others since their views are way outside the mainstream”
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He’s in Redding….they put something in their water
So Redding must actually be located in the Bizarro World (a square planet with deadly Blue Kryptonite), because that seems to be where Hansen, Trenberth, and Schmidt operate from. Oh, and another primary occupant on Bizarro World is the Op-Ed Section of the New York Times.
Here you go Doug Craig.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/07/truth-about-realclimateorg.html
Just how stupid do you look now?
Lindzen is an oil clown….. words fail me.
Speaking of James Hansen’s appearance before Congress in 1988, let’s see just how scientific it was:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhTxM2ith5k
He’s consistent with James Hansen? So he’s a radical environmentalist too?
“it’s ironic that EMS president Arlie Schardt is probably best known for pointing out others’ public hyperbole. As press secretary for Al Gore’s disastrous first presidential campaign in 1988”
Ouch ….’gored’ again.
SourceWatch/ExxonSecrets/Desmog/Gelbspan = a central accusation promulgated by Gelbspan beginning back in late 1995, based on a quote from a 1991 era memo that itself is never seen in its complete context in any publication or web site that relies on the quote as ‘smoking gun’ proof that skeptic scientists are corrupt. See “How an Enviro-Advocacy Group Propped Up Global Warming in the MSM” http://bigjournalism.com/rcook/2010/11/02/how-an-enviro-advocacy-group-propped-up-global-warming-in-the-msm-a-nov-2-election-connection/
No doubt our friend Doug Craig is utterly unaware of this, and never thought to check the veracity of Gelbspan’s accusation.
Is Gavin a legal immigrant? Just wondering. So many people are working here (from Europe) who really aren’t citizens.
Any time I leave comments at RC, I always ask Gavin if he has any NASA work he should be doing.
Doug Craig “here’s your sign.”
Irony……these 3 guys are way better than those 3 guys.
“Even though we quote the work product of Spencer and Christy, we don’t think they know what they’re talking about” . See UAH. “Even though Lindzen disassembles us every time we speak, we don’t believe him.”
For any novice to this climate discussion that may be lurking, look for Lindzen. He’s spot on. I usually have a point or two to disagree with most scientists including skeptical ones…….I can’t think of one of Lindzen’s that I could.
For those that don’t know, Spencer and Christy run the University of Alabama/Huntsville satellite temp data center. There are only two world renown centers as such. UAH and RSS. The alarmists quote UAH more than RSS…….now. But they’ll bash the ones they quote because the ones they quote don’t believe the anthropological side of AGW. Both. The ones they quote. Whose data is beyond question……… Uhmm……K. Almost makes sense to me.
Spencer and Christy also haven’t been arrested at coal protests. I’m just sayin……
Actually Spencer and Christy do believe the A in AGW. They do not believe it is
Catastrophic!
Both Pielkes believe in AGW but SR thinks Land Use Land Change is a greater problem and JR thinks adaption is the best path to take as there is no observable trend that can be attributed to AGW. That makes mitigation a waste of money.
They just can’t stop digging that hole LOL, I need more popcorn
Anybody calling Pielke Jr a “contrarian” is obviously (seriously misinformed and) on the wrong side of fascism
I profiled most of these “clown” scientists and you can find all their “fake” credentials here,
Prominent Climatologists Skeptical of AGW Alarm
John R. Christy, B.A. Mathematics, California State University (1973), M.S. Atmospheric Science, University of Illinois (1984), Ph.D. Atmospheric Science, University of Illinois (1987), NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (1991), American Meteorological Society’s Special Award (1996), Member, Committee on Earth Studies, Space Studies Board (1998-2001), Alabama State Climatologist (2000-Present), Fellow, American Meteorological Society (2002), Panel Member, Official Statement on Climate Change, American Geophysical Union (2003), Member, Committee on Environmental Satellite Data Utilization, Space Studies Board (2003-2004), Member, Committee on Surface Temperature Reconstructions for the last 2,000 years, National Research Council (2006), Distinguished Professor of Atmospheric Science, University of Alabama in Huntsville (1991-Present), Director of the Earth System Science Center, University of Alabama in Huntsville (2000-Present), Contributor, IPCC (1992, 1994, 1996, 2007), Lead Author, IPCC (2001)
Patrick J. Michaels, A.B. Biological Sciences, University of Chicago (1971), S.M. Biology, University of Chicago (1975), Ph.D. Ecological Climatology, University of Wisconsin-Madison (1979), Research and Project Assistant, Center for Climatic Research, University of Wisconsin (1976-1979), Assistant Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1980-1986), Virginia State Climatologist (1980-2007), President, Central Virginia Chapter, American Meteorological Society (1986-1987), Executive Board, American Association of State Climatologists (1986-1989), Associate Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1986-1995), President, American Association of State Climatologists (1987-1988), Chair, Committee on Applied Climatology, American Meteorological Society (1988-1999), Senior Fellow in Environmental Studies, Cato Institute (1992-Present), Visiting Scientist, Marshall Institute (1996-Present), Member, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Member, Association of American Geographers, Member, Sigma Xi, The Scientific Research Society, Professor of Environmental Sciences, University of Virginia (1996-Present), Contributor and Expert Reviewer, IPCC (1990, 1992, 1995, 2001, 2007)
Richard S. Lindzen, A.B. Physics Magna Cum Laude, Harvard University (1960), S.M. Applied Mathematics, Harvard University (1961), Ph.D. Applied Mathematics, Harvard University (1964), Research Associate in Meteorology, University of Washington (1964-1965), NATO Post-Doctoral Fellow at the Institute for Theoretical Meteorology, University of Oslo (1965-1966), Research Scientist, National Center for Atmospheric Research (1966-1967), Visiting Lecturer in Meteorology, UCLA (1967), NCAR Outstanding Publication Award (1967), AMS Meisinger Award (1968), Associate Professor and Professor of Meteorology, University of Chicago (1968-1972), Summer Lecturer, NCAR Colloquium (1968, 1972, 1978), AGU Macelwane Award (1969), Visiting Professor, Department of Environmental Sciences, Tel Aviv University (1969), Alfred P. Sloan Fellowship (1970-1976), Gordon McKay Professor of Dynamic Meteorology, Harvard University (1972-1983), Visiting Professor of Dynamic Meteorology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1975), Lady Davis Visiting Professor, Department of Meteorology, The Hebrew University (1979), Director, Center for Earth and Planetary Physics, Harvard University (1980-1983), Robert P. Burden Professor of Dynamical Meteorology, Harvard University (1982-1983), AMS Charney Award (1985), Vikram Amblal Sarabhai Professor, Physical Research Laboratory, Ahmedabad, India (1985), Japanese Society for the Promotion of Science Fellowship (1986-1987), Distinguished Visiting Scientist, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA (1988-Present), Sackler Visiting Professor, Tel Aviv University (1992), Landsdowne Lecturer, University of Victoria (1993), Bernhard Haurwitz Memorial Lecturer, American Meteorological Society (1997), Fellow, American Academy of Arts & Sciences, Fellow, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Fellow, American Geophysical Union, Fellow, American Meteorological Society, Member, Norwegian Academy of Science and Letters, Member, Sigma Xi, The Scientific Research Society, Member, National Academy of Sciences, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1983-Present), Lead Author, IPCC (2001)
Roy W. Spencer, B.S. Atmospheric Sciences, University of Michigan (1978), M.S. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin (1980), Ph.D. Meteorology, University of Wisconsin (1982), Research Scientist, Space Science and Engineering Center, University of Wisconsin (1982-1984), Senior Scientist for Climate Studies, Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA (1984-2001), MSFC Center Director’s Commendation (1989), U.S. Team Leader, Multichannel Imaging Microwave Radiometer (MIMR) Team, NASA (1992-Present), Team Leader, AMSR-E Science Team, NASA (1994-Present), NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (1991), American Meteorological Society’s Special Award (1996), Principal Research Scientist, Earth System Science Center, University of Alabama in Huntsville (2001-Present)