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When one reads of these initiatives it really strikes home how little credability these organizations have, e.g. American Meteorological Society, etc. I say this because despite massive funding to clearly biased organizations, e.g. CRU, NASA, NOAA, etc., despite a massive and biased pro-AGW in the media, despite strong support from governments, e.g. European Union, and despite repeated claims of disaster that fail to materialize or attribution of actual disasters to AGW, e.g. Haiti and Japan quakes (which are obviously rubbish but necessarily recognized as such by the general population).
Despite all of this, the public remains and is increasingly skeptical of both the science and claims of the prophets of doom. I give a high five to the commen sense of the `person on the street’.
lol, they think it is still the messaging and not the message itself. For the last ten years, there has been no warming. It’s really hard to get around that. Consider ten years ago, a child of 14 years, at that time, would have heard nothing but alarmism regarding CO2 and the climate.
Now fast forward to the present. The child is a young adult, raising his/her own children now. If they haven’t already totally disregarded the doom and gloom and care to look at the data, they will see what Steve posted, or this
http://suyts.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/image.png
Or this http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2001.17/plot/hadcrut3vgl/from:2001.17/trend
Well, we may be stupid, but we are not dumb. The charlatans of AGW count on dumb people in order to maintain their power and lies.
How do you know a dumb person from a smart one? Wait for the line “The science is irrefutable” to come out of their mouths. No intelligent person would say that about something that is not even a working hypothesis yet.
Pretty much. No sound, easily condensible set of principles beyond “CO2 is a pollutant”.
When I first saw the link “http://solveclimatenews.com/”, I could have sworn I saw the word “Soviet”!
Garbage is still garbage, lies are still lies, regardless of how much you dumb it down for us stupid people.
Google (big time conspicuous consumers & big buds with AlGore) might have had a tad more credibility had they assembled 21 fellows to determine if in fact there will be catastrophic global warming instead of presuming that there is CAGW and just coming up with ways to effectively “message” it.
As it stands it will just be more fodder for skeptical websites to rip to shreads… happy hunting
One of the 21 Fellows quoted in the article, Andrew Dessler, has no qualms about calling skeptic scientist Fred Singer a “nut case”, as found in one of the huge amounts of blogs he has at Grist: http://www.grist.org/article/the-mantle-of-galileo
Thank heavens there’s no sign of bias in Dessler’s viewpoints………
I’m so stupid that the AGW story just doesn’t make sense to me.
Judging from the comments on that site, they are being lambasted by skeptics.
Oh really, how nice.
…. this is a good example of “Dessler’s First Rule of Skepticism”:
“Anyone who compares themselves to Galileo is a nut case. Anytime someone compares their situation to that of Galileo, it just means they’re wasting your time.”
As University of Maryland physics professor Bob Park wrote a few years ago:
“Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment, you must also be right.”
Sadly, climate skeptics fail the second part of that test.
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.. and Fred Singer is not a nutcase .. he is quite smart … he believes he is right, but belief does not make it so.
GO GOOGLE – GO CLIMATE SCIENTISTS – GO MARINE BIOLOGISTS – GO THE REAL SKEPTICS that is REAL ACTIVELY INVOLVED SCIENTISTS vs the NOISE MAKERS FROM HELL ie the Not-Knowers
the people who know nothing about Science, and Climate Science in particular, iow
the Knee-Jerkers
the Purveyors of Fear
the “i am so shit hot because I can make an Insulting Quip” Backslappers
the True Believers who Believe they are smart
Yet IGNORE that “belief does not make it so”
…. some of whom post their crappolla here, and there, and everywhere, Daily!
It’s a proven fact folks … Stupid Americans Don’t Understand That The Climate Is Heating Up.
I guess that means YOU LOT ……. rotflmao
None of you are like Galileo at all, you are instead like the Mad Monks of a Flat Earth!
“Just Having Fun”?
Oh indeed I am. 🙂
How many different names do you post under?
lol…..toon boy is back! To give us his brilliant insights to……………????
Toon boy, do you have problems with the NCDC’s graph? And what is this about Galileo?
I’m glad you’re here, I posed a question to you yesterday. I’d like you to take this back, confer with your brilliant “real actively involved” sciency types and see if you can’t find an answer for me.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/03/17/last-winter-was-proof-of-climate-change/#comment-44410
And, I’m very glad you’re having fun! Your witless ramblings are a great example of a typical alarmist.
BTW, the Purveyors of Fear belongs to the other side.
Toon boy???? COME BACK!!!!! TOON BOY!!!!!!
He can’t. It would defy his self worth to actually discuss or debate facts. instead, like Jonathan Livingston, he just swoops in, craps on blogs and then swoops out again.