Pictures taken on the scene within an hour of the “shootout” show no indication that the anyone in the house was armed. The only “weapon” is a child’s water pistol.
Don’t click this link if you are squeamish. What sort of weaponry causes that sort of hemorrhaging?
Do you have any pictures from the day care center in the twin towers?
Do you have any pictures of the 500,000 Iraqi children who died under UN sanctions? Your argument is pretty sick.
Do you think that 9/11 is justification for the Obama White House lying?
Steven,
It might not be coming through in these posts that your intent is only to expose the lies coming from the White House. It is more so looking like, in some cases, you are, per se, upset that they died without guns in their hands.
The military has high tech weaponry to incapacitate people. They had 19 men armed to the hilt vs 4. If Obama actually had anything to do with this mission, the order should have been made to arrest Osama and bring him back to the US. It is clear that they were sent in to kill and that they followed their orders very efficiently.
Throw in all the incredible untruths which have been uttered since, and we have a very ugly situation.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or bin Laden. These pictures don’t have any bearing on whether the terrorists in the compound were armed or not. Do you think the inconsistencies in the stories out of the white house are in any way comparable to international terrorism and crimes against humanity?
I do not believe that destroying American principles makes life better for Americans.
Daniel Packman says:
May 5, 2011 at 3:59 am
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 or bin Laden.
That is not true. If 9/11 had not happened it is highly unlikely Iraq II would have happened. Saddam Hussein paid the families of terrorist. He was a terrorist threat.
By the way Daniel, why are we in Libya?
Iraq II happened because George W. had some kind of fixation on Sadaam. Afghanistan happened because of 9/11.
Daniel Packman says:
May 5, 2011 at 4:52 am
Iraq II happened because George W. had some kind of fixation on Sadaam.
Ya, I’ve heard people from the left wing of politics say that before. And you are a clone of left wing politics. Congratulations for thinking on your own.
BTW, why is America in Libya?
NATO (including the US) is in Libya as an aftermath of a decision to try to avoid mass civilian casualties. I think a good case can be made for this initial action, but it might not end well. In addition to France & Great Britain calling for this action, we also had the backing of the Arab League.
I see.
So the President acted unilaterally.and he’s doing it to save civilians. While even more civilians are being killed in Syria, and it’s being done in broad daylight on tv.
So your reason doesn’t wash. So tell me the real reason the US is in Libya.
The choice to go into Libya was also a practical one in that forces attacking a city from the outside can be attacked from the air and about half the country had already rebelled. In Syria there is no credible way to decrease civilian casualties by using air power.
Daniel:
That is a gut wrencher! ROFLMAO! You actually believe what you are saying? GOOD ONE!
Anyone living in Osama bin Laden house should know this could happen. I don’t feel sorry for the death of someone intent on killing American ‘infidels’. I am relieved. I am only wishing he had been captured alive and then meticulously questioned, with water boarding if needed.
I’m sorry, I don’t mean to argue.
So that makes it OK for the White House to fabricate the story?
I don’t trust a thing coming from the White House. I haven’t trusted Barrack Obama from even before he was sworn in. I’m not surprised there are so many different stories coming out.
stevengoddard says:
May 5, 2011 at 3:40 am
So that makes it OK for the White House to fabricate the story?
Did you see the movie “Wag the Dog”?
Steve, it doesn’t make it OK for the administration to fabricate the story.
However, AAM is correct. The message you’re trying to put out is easily misconceived. Slow down. Please.
My hot button is government sponsored bullshit, and this reeks to high heaven.
I understand that. Many people’s happy button is that UBL is dead. Keep informing, but give people a chance to digest.
To some, you could be lending to the appearance of something entirely different than what is your issue.
Steve, you really don’t have a clue do you? Hint, it’s not good practice to leave loaded weapons lying around when sweeping a building. Regarding the bleeding, SOP would be a couple of stun grenades on first entry, especially when there are non-combatants in the building, certainly capable of generating some nosebleeding.
Ahh So after the stun grenades were thrown, the men who were bleeding profusely out of every orifice pitched a fevered 45 minute gun battle. Thanks for clearing that up.
I have no problem with Steve’s posts. As more information comes out it gives the impression the White House has been covering up the truth. The message from Obama early in his presidency did the blame America tour where he pledged that he would be more transparent and honest and show the USA as a beacon of democracy and to demonstrate to the world, American values of human and civil rights. That’s why he got the Nobel I thought? It was Obama who redefined terrorists as criminals with rights and Obama and the USA will be under the international microscope by those who will accuse us of violating our own values and executing an unarmed criminal (Obama’s term not mine) and violating his rights.
I’m wondering if Obama is in fear of Muslim reprisals on him personally for ordering the killing. Maybe that’s the reason for all the pussyfooting.
If Dubya had issued a kill order like this, and it was learned that 3 of the 4 were unarmed, the MSM would have crucified Bush. Our MSM is pravda with a Dem in the White House, and we are doomed.
My only hope in all this is that conspiracy websites don’t start to flourish. Bin Laden is dead – end of story. How he died is neither here nor there. Americans have got there justice so further debate is quite frankly meaningless. History!
There is still an issue with the claim he is dead!
He is probably vacationing in Hawaii visiting Obama’s birth place!
“Bin Laden is dead – end of story. ”
What proof do you have of this claim?
It is no surprise that the WH can’t get this story straight, it can’t tell us anything truthful. It is utter incompetance to have so many details screwed up. On the other hand, I don’t believe the MSM (media) and I especially don’t believe native pictures and accounts. I am surprised we didn’t get video of 15 dead infants tossed around the compound from the state media of Pakistan. In other words word against word. They should have operational video like they did when they retrieved Lynch and all would be well.
Yes, they are completely incompetent and this is with a sycophantic media that spends most of their time and effort carrying this administrations water. Can you imagine the feeding frenzy we would be seeing if this was coming from an administration that the media is hostile to?
Every mission is debriefed. All members get questioned by intel folks etc as to what they did at every step. A write-up is then done as to what, when, where, why and how and passed up the chain of command. Also they members had video cams on their helmets that may or may not have transmitted back while in the buildings. Together the two (writeup and pics) must jive or folks go to jail. Lies to seniors is a punishable offense.
I know because I have been on both ends of missions, not SEALS however.
1) I have no problem with OBL being executed. He deserved it.
2) I think he would have been more valuable alive and being water boarded FOREVER. It still would not have brought back any of the 9/11 victims, but hell on earth is what he deserved.
3) I do think Obama is a congenital liar and his “team” are bigger liars and as good at running the country as Obama was good at writing Law Review articles.