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Climate scientists say global warming will affect Nebraska in the next 40 years.
http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/local/article11d6e8a2-e1b6-11de-8b54-001cc4c03286.html
The chart above is irrelevant to the case made in the article.
Thanks for showing us again that many climate scientists are completely disconnected from reality!
An historical virtually flat summer temperature trend over the past 115 years tells us nothing about the climate for the next 40 years? I think I will stick with the data rather than trusting in the reading of entrails by pseudo-scientists.
Except the article doesn’t include any proof of their claims, and in any event, is irrelevant to the chart. It makes me wonder whether you’re trying to make some kind of point, because right now you have none.
We’re not talking proof here, Dave N. You offer no proof of anything.
These NWF guys note that warming in the Rockies changes the melt pattern of snow, and consequently changes flows in the Platte River and other snowfed rivers in the Missouri River system. That’s been established — well, hell, that’s common sense — and you offer not an iota to suggest we shouldn’t take them at their word.
Got any “proof” of anything? Then don’t complain to avoid discussing the issues.
Ed
The article states ;-
Hovorka said average temperatures in Nebraska have already warmed about 1 degree in the last 100 years.
This is not true. Since 1911 the temperature increase is only 0.4F. Furthermore since 1930 temperatures trend is a decline of 0.05F per decade.
I would suggest their credibility is less than zero if they can’t even get simple facts like these right.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/ne.html
I didn’t know you are a climate scientist, Steve. You’re welcome.
Will the epiphany change your mind about any of your past errors, or prevent future errors?
Which past errors?
Claims that global-warming-caused increased snowfall in the Great Basin ended the drought in the lower Colorado River; claims that lack of local warming means no effects from global warming; etc. Is there any place you’ve confessed that CO2 is increasing, and that CO2 causes warming, or that fighting greenhouse gases (all of them) would be a good thing to do?
All that missing melt water from Winslow …..
Ed. Seek help.
http://tumblr.com/xrt40g9i5p
Stark, go flussig yourself.
Ed:
You found a Chicken Little Fairy tale that has nothing to do with reality. It warms the heart to know they are so desperate they need to make stuff up.
You probably believe it also!!!!
I can get you some property on Antarctica at about 2K elevation so you will not have to worry about sea level rise and you will beat your fellow believers and get the best location! The soil there is great and the nutrients have not been depleted by bad planting methods. It will be like Virgin soil when it thaws out any day now according to the best models. If you do not want to wait that long there is some lovely acreage in Patagonia that can be picked up “Cheap”.
Dear GG,
Which part is fairy tale? I note you offer no contrary claims.
1. Pack ice is reduced.
2. The fjord was blocked by non-pack ice.
In the face of outright lunacy, a fairy tale is golden. But you can’t call the facts “fairy tales” and make it to Tenderfoot in the Boy Scouts. Which facts are you denying now?
So, according to Ed Darrell, random drunken ramblings have to be countered by facts. I hope you try that one on the police at your next DUI checkpoint. 🙂
This sommer is quite similar to the 1980 summer. Brutally hot from the Southern Plains to the Mid Atlantic, but not all that terrible elsewhere.
The 1930’s heat was more widespread. Much worse in the Northern Plains and the Cornbelt. At least this year, unlike the 1930’s, we are going to have a fairly decent corn crop.
Corn is up 27% in some parts of the Midwest, over 2010 — but 2010 was a crappy year, and 2011 doesn’t look “fairly decent” to a lot of people. Where are you getting your information, Andy?
http://www.cattlenetwork.com/cattle-news/latest/Weather-impact-on-Midwest-corn-2011-127448278.html
Also see this:
No, this would be 5 million fewer acres harvested, assuming projections hold up.
But, since you brought it up, what were the harvest numbers like during the Little Ice Ace and the Medieval Warm Period?
In the American Midwest? Stark, you need help.
Ed:
For your information Weather will affect every region on this globe in some way during the next ____ ( Hey pick a number of years). Weather always has affected regions and will continue as long as the earth exists)
Variations in crop yeilds due to weather variations have been going on since humans indulged in agriculture. It is part of natural cycles, get used to it and get over your Chicken Little attitude!
I know that we do not know what the weather will be next week to any degree of accuracy and it gets worse the further in the future attempts are made to predict patterns. I do know that weather patterns change and have. I know that average is a fairy tale because average does not represent the variability of nature, it distorts reality ( a FAIRY TALE).
In forty years we can look back and see what weather conditions were experienced but that will not even come close to giving a clue of what to expect during the following forty years.
“Hovorka said average temperatures in Nebraska have already warmed about 1 degree in the last 100 years.”
apparently not true
305 million sounds like a large number, but out of 13.2 billion, it is only about a 3% reduction if my math serves me correct. It’s not going to be quite the bumper crop earlier predicted, but it’s still at least an average crop and trivial compare to the 50% reduction you had in the 1930’s, or even the 20-30% reduction during a couple of the droughts in the 1980’s.
Andy, with your math, I can get you several millions of acres of good farmland in the Midwest, relatively cheap. You’ll get rich, with your math.
If you’re feeling flush, I can throw in a bridge in Brooklyn, or even one over the Colorado River either near Page, Arizona, or near Hoover Dam. Your choice.
Cash only, please.
lol, Ed, you probably need to define cheap before you make such offers………if we don’t poor our food down our fuel tanks, we’ll still have more food than last year. If the land comes in below $300/acre….in prime land,….throw me in with Andy……..It won’t go for 3 times that amount, but, we can dream….
Why? Because we know the land will continue to produce. One hiccup and we panic……nice. BTW, Andy was also correct on 1980 being similar to this year……. lived through both….somehow. Ed, do you ever tire of sounding the alarm about stuff that doesn’t matter? How about being alarmed about our rejection of fiscal responsibility…… it is a more immediate problem.