Southeast Alaska is having their coldest summer on record, after their snowiest winter on record – so MSNBC blames a landslide there on global warming.
Could this be the coldest July in history for Anchorage?
Alaska Dispatch | Jul 13, 2012On July 11, Anchorage’s high was 56 degrees. A day later, it maxed out at 54. To date, Anchorage has not seen one day this month at or above the projected average high of 65-66 degrees.
Current data makes this July the coldest since 1920.
Anchorage Weather: Alaska’s Largest City Sees Record-Low July Temperatures | Alaska Dispatch
Apparently all that cold is making the permafrost melt.
5-mile-long landslide in Alaska national park; warming eyed as possible culprit
By Miguel Llanos, msnbc.com
A massive landslide sent tons of rock and debris tumbling more than five miles down a glacier in Alaska, the National Park Service reported in an event that could be yet another sign of a warming world.
5-mile-long landslide in Alaska national park; warming eyed as possible culprit – U.S. News
Climate alarmists are quite possibly the stupidest people who ever lived.
h/t to Marc Morano
Every idiot knows that record cold speeds the melting process and is a telltale sign of a warming planet (extreme sarcasm).
The world is warming, EPA and the Supreme Court say so. Who are we to criticise EPA and the Supreme Court or the big leader Barack Osama Obama.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jul/5/court-decrees-global-warming/
Who needs Real Science if you have these people and the Pope
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2010/02/the_pope_vs_climate_change_deniers.html
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1104646.htm
Hey , does anyone pay any attention to msnbc now ? Only the idiots would be my guess. The so called news sources of the world government fans are mostly ignored unless one is looking for a laugh at fools or to veiw the latest propaganda.
Guys like Llanos should be forced to pay a verbal emissions tax.
Does the top of Mt. Lituya (where the landslide originated) ever get above freezing? I never considered a stone mountain at altitude capped by an icecap to be considered “permafrost” in the practical sense, which I thought really just referred to water-ice impregnated soil and other organic matter that purportedly is supposed to release GHG methane when it melts and warms.
I suppose AGW is also to blame for the Lituya Bay megatsunami in the 1950s.
With small n (number of landslides on record) and sparse population, and improving detection technology, how can they say with any degree of reliability that landslides are increasing, AND that AGW is to blame?
As a kid in the 1970s, I learned that landslides were caused by erosion.
It could be that the burden of ice >100m thick on the top of the mountain caused the rock beneath it to fail. But all the extra snowfall that led to the ice formation would be due to global warming too. Right?
/sarc
Excellent report of a (similar) rock avalanche on the Sherman Glacier in Alaska in 1964:
https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/1811/38703/IPS_Report_30.pdf?sequence=3
I answered this MS-NBC post thusly:
>>”The allegation that global warming could have caused this landslide is silly. This has been one >> of the coldest and snowiest winters in Alaska. It is still cold, barely out of Spring. See this post:
>> (link)
>> Rather than melting permafrost, it’s more likely the result of a huge burden of snow. The picture >> of the source area shows a high rock and snow chute, almost vertical, on the mountain face >>above the glacier. That’s where the slide came from, a nearly vertical wall with permanent snow >>pack on slick rock faces, the product of a massive snow buildup lasting the whole winter.
>>
>>There is something strange about ascribing all spectacular happenings to carbon dioxide and >>global warming. The media and many readers are obsessed with this. It’s a fad that has nothing >>to do with science.”
>> #304 – Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:00 PM EDT.
The article clearly shows a huge rock face with a giant sheered-off cornice hanging above it, Everest-style. There’s absolutely no evidence in that physical location for any “warming” or “melting of permafrost”. Even with a clear picture in his own article, the author is clueless!
The link I put in apparently did not go over. It was about big snow and continuing cold temps in Anchorage.
There were dozens of comments like mine previous to this, about 12 pages of comments total. Our side was well-represented. Looks like a lot of people are paying attention. And it wasn’t all fire-and-brimstone from both sides, either (tho there was a lot of that).
I wonder if the rock face in question is subject to freeze-thaw cycles, which could certainly speed erosion. But absent a weather station at that location at altitude, I find any comment attributing the landslide to AGW as speculation not supported by data.
Furthermore, with small sample size (i.e. low frequency of landslide events), and incomplete data collection due to low population and inferior technology, it is not realistic that the scientist could claim that landslides are occurring more frequently, let alone attribute causation to AGW. Junk science.
Don’t know if it’s the public school education. Or Harvard both seem to breed the same idiot