NOAA is showing more ice than yesterday. Turquoise is gain, red is loss.
With a few days left to the melt season, the Arctic is doomed.
NOAA is showing more ice than yesterday. Turquoise is gain, red is loss.
With a few days left to the melt season, the Arctic is doomed.
Send some ice breakers up there one year. I want to see what a real ice-free North Pole looks like and what will happen the following years. Enough of the theory; let’s conduct some experiments.
Oden is up there again:
http://www.sjofartsverket.se/sv/Nyheter/Oden-har-natt-Nordpolen-/
On JAXA, the earliest recent Arctic ice minimum since 2003 was 9/9 (last year). There are probably at least two weeks to go before 2012 reaches its minimum. A record low minimum extent still appears likely.
That ice melts like crazy below freezing
It doesn’t need to melt; it only needs to be compacted by wind, and it’s not yet cold enough for salt water to freeze most places above 80N, so refreeze is not yet an issue. Is that an implicit prediction from you that JAXA will not reach a record minimum this year? Oh, sorry….I forgot. You don’t do that.
Exactly. The wind is compacting the ice north of the Kara Sea.
JAXA update: There was a net loss of 76,250 square kilometers for 8/22. 2012 is now less than 203,000 square kilometers from the record. A new record is very likely and perhaps the biggest issue concerns whether the minimum ice extent will fall below 4 million square kilometers for the first time on JAXA’s record.
Is their anyone monitoring what the volcanic activity is contributing especially the underwater volcanoes up their?
Damn, I was anticipating saltwater freeze for last Friday. It was just an eyeball, but I suspect that the Maxima will go deep this year. That 80 deg North temperature was cold this summer.
Sorry Steve but that map is baloney, are you making it up? It’s impossible for that amount of ice to be put on in one day, you should know that. You have about a 400 to 500 square km gain there. lol
LOL
Andy
No, I don’t make the maps at the National Ice Center. I am showing the change between yesterday’s map and today’s.
IMS maps are very “jittery” around the boundary. Try pixel-counting the archive maps to show the yearly cycle, and estimate the noise level on this product. Or if you can’t be bothered, or don’t think you like what that would show, then just look at the animation. IT shows constant outward surges (e.g. around Severnaya Zemlya between 4th-7th August) that physically cannot reflect increasing ice at this time of year.
http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/loop/ak-1mo-loop.html
That’s what you expect from something detecting very low concentration drift ice. The edge, like the name suggests, drifts, and areas swirl above and below the 15% borderline. If they showed precise concentration percentages, it’d be clearer. There’s also a very large subjective element, since these maps are hand-drawn by analysts.
IMS maps show regions of ice which NSIDC is missing
These maps show any fragmentary ice as ‘sea ice’ You can see they are generalised by the unrealistically smooth margins. Somewhere in that solid mass are fragments. Walt Meier has explained the differing prep criteria and methods at length.
I am still trying to find those new Arctic shipping routes. This map does not help any.
Since the premature conclusion of ice growth, Arctic sea ice extent has declined every day. Over the last 5 days, JAXA has shown a loss of 390,000 square kilometers. NSIDC has shown a loss of 347,369 square kilometers over the past 4 days. JAXA may report a figure under 4 million square kilometers in its next report (initial estimate for 8/27 is there, but initial estimates are typically revised higher during melt season). NSIDC already shows less than 4 million square kilometers in its daily values.