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I remember a story about 4 years go where a family suicided due to the dreaded CAGW scare they were told in no uncertain terms was literally on their doorstep. I’m not sure regarding the truth of the story, but if so, Franny might have been the one of the main culprits.
Note to Franny: The rest of us could do without your CO2-induced lies and panic. If your beloved CAGW is true – you’re an oxygen-thief. kill yourself please.
“Should we party party party now, flying all round the world gorging on fossil fuels, pretending we don’t know it’s happening?”
That sounds to me like the people pushing the AGW scare not normal everyday working people.
My post to Franny – bet it don’t survive the MODs over there, but hopefully might change some minds. All the crybaby wannabe cyaniders posting there will likely never learn the truth. We might wanna do without such weak imbeciles anyway – they’ve got nothing useful to add to society, just like Franny:
Sea levels have been rising for tens of thousands of years, since the last deep ice age ended. There’s no acceleration evident today. Have you taken land subsidence into account? Have you even noticed charts of where it’s slowed?
How did the Australian Aborigine cross the oceans to get here? Maybe you should see this:
http://www.migrationheritage.nsw.gov.au/objects-through-time/essays/50000-years-before-present/attachment/map-of-ice-age-aust
You seem utterly convinced that man-made CO2 (still a tiny trace gas in our atmosphere at 0.0397%) is going to burn the planet to hell tomorrow. Of course, when it comes to doomsayers, it’s always tomorrow, next week or in the future. That just continues until the next fearmongering “fad” comes along to be likewise always “predicted” in the future. Some questions for you:
Every exhalation is around 4% CO2 (40,000ppm – atmospere now 397ppm). How is it you don’t burn your tongue in the sun when you exhale that ENORMOUS 4% of CO2?
How is it that delicate aragonite corals evolved when CO2 was some 20x higher than today?
With CO2 so much higher in the past and you expecting a LINEAR scale to CO2 heat trapping effect, why was there never a runaway greenhouse, ever?
How is it that CO2 was many times higher than today even during deep ice ages?
You understand that CO2 is necessary for photosynthesis and farmers actually pump CO2 into their greenhouses to increase yields, right?
Do you know that Viking graves in Greenland now are in permafrost – something you can’t dig without hydraulics? Vikings colonised and farmed Greenland 1000 years ago, why did they leave 300 years later?
The Little Ice Age is documented in paintings from the 1600’s where the Thames and Hudson rivers froze 10ft thick and the locals held fairs on them. Are you aware of this at all? Are you aware this was caused by the “Maunder Minimum”, a time when very few Sunspots and Solar activity occurred?
Do you remember when an imminent “ice age” was predicted in the 70’s?
Are you aware that Global temps rose sharply between 1910 and 1940, then fell sharply between the 40’s to the 70’s? Did Man have something to do with it or is my next question the answer?
Do you understand the cycles of the oceans (PDO, AMO, ENSO) and their impact from warm to cool and back again over regular decadal scales?
Why is it that in a desert, you can fry during the day and freeze at night, but not in the tropics? What magical atmospheric component is missing in a desert to cause this and therefore, is CO2 actually trapping any catastrophic heat at all? A clue – notice how the night is usually warmer when it’s overcast?
Have you noticed that CO2 continues to climb but Global temps have flatlined for the last 17 YEARS? Why the disconnect?
Are you aware that according to well understood physical parameters, the effectiveness of CO2 as a greenhouse gas diminishes logarithmically with increasing concentration and from the current level of ~397 ppm, accordingly only ~5% of the effectiveness of CO2 as a greenhouse gas remains beyond the current level?
Do you understand that warm water outgasses CO2 – try opening a warm and a cold bottle of soda water. Do you now understand that the oceans could never become “acidic”, considering their pH ranges from 7.9 to 8.3, depending on where you measure it and, that the pH scale is also logarithmic?
How do you explain the findings of ancient tools and tree stumps under retreating glaciers?
Have you seen the geologic records that show CO2 rising AFTER temp rises by some hundreds of years?
Have you discovered Milankovitch Cycles – how the Earth has cyclical wobbles in its orbit being tugged on by other planets causing major changes in our distance from the Sun?
Have you discovered that on very regular cycles, the Earth suffers a major ice age about every 100,000 years lasting many times longer than our current interglacial? Do you think that’s connected to my previous question?
Why is it that some 90%+ of species live around the Equator?
Figures are readily available to show winters kill more people than summers – have you looked into them and why do you think retirees look forward to living in warmer climates?
Are you aware that the Arctic ice extent is now the same as the 1979 annual mean? Do you really think it’s going to be “ice free” at all this NH summer?
Are you also aware that cat 3+ cyclones making landfall in the US and tornadoes are at record lows? The NOAA has figures on that if you dare look.
Does it make sense that “climate scientists”, being largely (if not totally) government funded, need to continue blaming Man for CO2 ills since governments want to tax us on it and, if they say it’s not, they’ll lose their job?
Frankly, all of the tip-toeing, cherry-picking and completely unscientific (if not impossible) explanations I see on these sites in support of AGW are truly far-fetched wonders of the age. A ll that rubbish and referencing to desperately try and explain-away the now 17 year warming pause.
If you get all the charts and scale them by whole degrees (something we might physically feel – maybe) then they’d be a straight line not even resembling static.
People, have a good look around and you’ll find there are more questions that require answering before spouting for certain that Man is to blame for climate change. It’s been doing it for billions of years and will continue to do so. There’s NO peer-reviewed study out there that can scientifically and unequivocally state that they can filter out Man’s warming signal from the natural noise.
If you keep believing point-blank the government and the lamestream media, you’ll look like a fool (you’re rapidly getting there) and have a lighter wallet to boot. Don’t be a puppet or a parrot to them.
If any families scared out of their wits suicide thanks to your insane cult, you shall be held personally responiblefor the unscientific lies you spuik! Remember this:
“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic”.
If you refuse to publish this post or delete it, the volumes about your “science” will have been spoken.
Thanks for posting here your comprehensive list of questions!
Obviously she will NOT post your comments there, what she says doesn’t resist 10 secs of logical-scientific analysis and is based on pure emotion without any real good message behind… Looks more like a religion indeed.
I’m starting to be really concerned about all this. Are we really facing a WAR between true science and pseudo-scientific religion worldwide?…
@olaf – You remember correctly about the family suicide:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1254619/Baby-girl-survives-shot-chest-parents-global-warming-suicide-pact.html
If the warmists are wrong (and I believe they are) they’ve definitely got blood on their hands from this.
She needs to get medical help.
Seconded. She desperately needs therapy and I hope she gets it in time, and that her friend does, as well. Before they do something horrible.
Thinking the same thing. What are the procedures one should take when you know that an apparently insane person in an imminent threat to the life and safety of children ?
Franny needs an intervention. She’s unhinged.
I can’t believe that anyone took “The Age of Stupid” seriously.
I laughed out loud in several places, particularly in the bit which said we should re-distribute all of the wealth from the rich countries to the poor ones.
I particularly like this comment on the Spanner Films link:
“We need a catastrophe to happen quickly to jolt people and governments into action.”
The problem is there are many people expecting this “global catastrophe” to happen in order to get things better (“catastrophism”) , the worse it gets the better it is, and they usually get lots of political attention because they appeal to emotions and make their followers easy to manipulate.
AGW is not the only example, unfortunately.
Yes Frannie, It’s over. Stop talking about it and take the cyanide now.
Frau Frannie is a lot like her socialist predecessor J. Goebbels. They were both involved with the creation of ugly propaganda films, which were based on junk science and scapegoating groups of people, and they both had plans to off their respective families when things didn’t work out.
One commenter over there wrote:
“We need a catastrophe to happen quickly to jolt people and governments into action.”
Sick.
“Omelettes are not made without breaking eggs.” — Robespierre, mastermind of the French Reign of Terror
And other people attribute that to Lenin or a dozen more people… makes me wonder how reliable that quote is.
Gina,
Robespierre, is the first person to which the quote was attributed. The fact that it may have been reiterated by the likes of Lenin or Stalin seems reasonable to me seeing as how they put the ethic of the quote into practice.
Gina,
Robespierre, is the first person to which the quote was attributed. The fact that it may have been reiterated by the likes of Lenin or Stalin seems reasonable seeing as how they put the ethic of the quote into practice wholesale.
That’s how Herr Hitler dealt with it! Leftists sure are predictable. Does this mean we should take kids away from their alarmists parents, for safe keeping?
The chief characteristics of the typical warmist blowhard is their gullibility and total reliance on others to do their thinking for them. They are easy prey for con artists posing as “climate scientists.”
Here are a few facts that put the lie to Franny’s absurd belief in CO2-induced climate catastrophe:
Of the 186 billion tons of carbon from CO2 that enter earth’s atmosphere each year from all sources, only 6 billion tons are from human activity. Approximately 90 billion tons come from biologic activity in earth’s oceans and another 90 billion tons from such sources as volcanoes and decaying land plants.
At 400 parts per million CO2 is a minor constituent of earth’s atmosphere– 4/100ths of 1% of all gases present. Compared to former geologic times, earth’s current atmosphere is CO2- impoverished
Total human contributions to greenhouse gases account for only about 0.28% of the “greenhouse effect” (Figure 2). Anthropogenic (man-made) carbon dioxide (CO2) comprises about 0.117% of this total, and man-made sources of other gases ( methane, nitrous oxide (NOX), other misc. gases) contributes another 0.163% .
Approximately 99.72% of the “greenhouse effect” is due to natural causes — mostly water vapor and traces of other gases, which we can do nothing at all about. Eliminating human activity altogether would have little impact on climate change.
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/ice_ages.html#anchor2108263
Earth has been cooling since the Holocene Optimum (5,000 – 7,000 years ago) when temperatures leveled off and began a long decline (interspersed by brief temperature peaks and valleys) that continues today.
Upon close examination, one sees that during each successive major warming period, the temperature was lower than the previous. From the Holocene Optimum through the Minoan Warming (3,000 years ago), the Roman Warm Period (2,000 years ago), the Medieval Warming (1,000 years ago) and the current Modern Warm Period, each warm cycle has peaked at a lower temperature. This indicates that we are now approaching the end of the current interglacial period, the Holocene Epoch, and are headed for the next major glaciation.
As a minor atmospheric constituent (0.4%), CO2 gas, especially the minuscule man-made portion, has an insignificant influence on Earth’s temperature. It is dwarfed by the impacts from solar activity, ocean oscillations, volcanism, earth’s tilt and orbit, cosmic rays, albedo, and clouds and water vapor, along with other natural factors.
Franny is a nutcase.
Let’s also add that CO2 is plant food and we need all that we can get, with cold times approaching.
AND, most importantly, no gas of any kind at any concentration in the atmosphere can detectably alter the climate. It’s thermodynamically impossible. Also, the models they use for all of these predictions do not have night-time when these reputed greenhouse gases would emit IR radiation to space unopposed by incoming radiation, as it is during daytime at which time it’s a wash. The net effect is cooling.
We only do calculations of our CO2 emissions to show that even their junk science makes no sense. We must always remember that CO2 is great in every possible way, except in a plastic bag over one’s head.
Has Franny asked her children if they want to die?
Has she asked her kids if it’s okay for Mommy to murder them?
“Mommy loves you, so Mommy wants to kill you!”
Maybe parents do not always know what’s best.
On the other hand, it appears that Franny lacks a survival instinct and we really do not need such genes, or lack there of, in the gene pool. She may be planning to do us a favor.
This is an embarrassing drivel. Franny Armstrong must stop despairing and start studying the history of other cults and especially the biography of Magda Goebbels, one of the world’s most dedicated National Socialists.
One doesn’t just stockpile cyanide. One must also stockpile morphine to drug the children before killing them. Especially the older ones don’t want to go. But Frau Goebbels would also scold Frau Armstrong that killing the children and oneself is the absolutely last step to be taken before the final collapse of any self-respecting world domination cult. First the cult leaders and their followers must—by any means necessary—try to force their will and vision on the rest of us. Nobody can save the unwilling without strong will to power.
Here is a quick refresher of the final moments in Hitler’s bunker:
Hitler’s secretary Traudl Junge and Magda Goebbels with her children before she drugged them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnGSTb0UToI
Magda Goebbels kills her drugged children with cyanide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lyNgSPcJpM
Joseph and Magda Goebbels commit murder-suicide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BW-ZUGyKIk
Note: The key scene where Magda Goebbels forces her children to take morphine before killing them with cyanide is very important but beyond the scope of this Cult 101 lecture overview and not included in the above short segments. Franny Armstrong will have to watch the whole film.
Paraphrasing Pink Floyd, I heartily offer the following:
“HEY, CREATURE, leave those kids alone!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjvnTxWP7vo
If a friend is planning on killing her children, then she is obligated to call child services!
Exactly right.
I think all these clowns and their prophets like Ehrlich, Hansen, McKibben and Mann should be charged with murder for those actual cases we already know about.
If someone falsely pulled a fire alarm at a school and kids get trampled to death the perp would definitely be charged. This case is not that far removed from that.