What a load of crap. Hansen did a major crawlback in December, 1988.
Ellensburg Daily Record – Dec 7, 1988
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Steve, here is a link to the weather in Inuvik NWT, the starting point for the North West Passage row.
It was 80.6 degrees and sunny today, that is the blow torch I was talking about. The ice isn’t going to stand much of a chance with those temps and all that sunshine.
http://weather.gc.ca/city/pages/nt-30_metric_e.html
ROFLMAO
Why are you laughing, do you honestly believe that the ice is going to withstand those temperatures?
Here is a link to long range forecast, check out the temps along their route.
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp2.html
The temperature on almost all of the ice sheet is below freezing, the NW passage is less than 10C
Steve, they are not doing the trip in a hydroplane, they are going to be rowing at 3kmh. It will be weeks before they arrive deep into the NWP. that’s plenty of time to melt the ice.
Or not.
Or freeze even more!!!
Reggie is smoking crack again. Stop smoking crack Reggie.
I didn’t realize it got that warm up there….but the average high for right now is 67F
…also, curiously, I had no idea their “summer” was that short
They only have one decent month, July, and after that temperatures fall like a rock!
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/CAXX0632
I wonder if I could get a grant to study trollism.
Dr. James Hansen said one thing in 1988 and a couple of other things some years later. Make of the following what you will but it looks like Hansen was a CAGW denier up to 2003.
So can I conclude that most of the warming up to 2003 was not man made? After 2003 is just 10 years which does not qualify as climate anyway. Hansen has tied himself up in knots.
Poor Reggie desperately wants his lunatic friends to survive their paddle. They can’t prove man made warming when Amundsen made the trip in 1903. Reggie’s the kind of person that sits there with his fingers in his ears going lalalalalalaa..
Amundsen took three summers to complete the passage, so it’s obvious there was a lot more ice then, than now. So maybe you should write 1903-1906 to be factually correct. since he didn’t reach Nome until 1906.
Last year three sailors traversed the NWP in a 31 foot sailboat
There are quite a few posters here mocking me but there hasn’t been a single one who was able to use facts to refute a single assertion I’ve made.
What complete bullshit. Amundsen traveled several times further without light, satellite imagery, communications, weather forecasts, Internet, sonar, or radar, He never knew what was more than 100 yards away from him.
Steve, what did I write that wasn’t true about his 1903-1906 trip?
Mainstream First Last are attempting to row 3000 kilometers in 80 days and are not being assisted by sails,That is years less than Amundsen took to make the same distance..
Last year three guys made the crossing in a 31 foot fiberglass sailboat
I missed the part where Amundsen drove in with the latest high tech equipment bypassing most of the ice.
Reggie-Pooh – you are being MOCKED because you are a JERK, a BRAIN-DEAD JERK. PLEASE TRY TO TAKE YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR RECTUM – there is massively more things in the the world than your fecal matter (regardless of how much of it you dump here).
Will you finally concede that Amundsen took years to cover the SAME three thousand km the rowers are attempting to do in a this skinned row boat with no sail or motor?
I will concede that the rowers have the internet, but they don’t have radar or sonar. They don’t need it travelling three kilometers per hour. They don’t need lights either, it isn’t very dark there.and besides the small solar panels are all the power the have and most of it is going to be used to desalinate water.
If the current crew attempted to reproduce Amundsen’s voyage, their chances of success would be very close to zero.
Why is it so difficult for you to admit it took Amundstan years to sail from Baffin Island to Tuk, it is a well documented fact? These guys are attempting to row that same trip in less than 80 days.
sounds about right…it took him from June to October to get from Norway to King William Island…..looks like he was too slow and ran out of time
“Because the water along the route was as shallow as 3 ft (0.91 m), a larger ship could not have made the voyage”
I wonder where he was that shallow?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Amundsen
Amundsen had no idea what ice conditions were 100 yards away from him. He had no maps. He had no idea if he was headed into the worst possible ice. These people have vast amounts of information to plan out and continuously navigate their trip. Only a moron would try to equate the two.
The eastern end of the Beaufort Sea is blocked with thick MYI. Grow up reggie
Why is it so difficult for you to admit it took Amundstan years to sail from Baffin Island to Tuk, it is a well documented fact? These guys are attempting to row that same trip in less than 80 days.
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Reggie, it took Amundstan ~120 days just to get to King William…..it was October….he got stuck and winter set in…
If he could have made the trip faster…..he might have made it all the way through
…no one knows
The ice isn’t going to last long, the forecast for that area is 82 degrees tomorrow which is 27 degrees above normal. Anyway, it will be a few weeks before they get that far.
http://weather.gc.ca/forecast/city_e.html?nu-16&unit=i
The Arctic blowtorch I mentioned has now arrived.
I take no credit for the prediction, that belongs to the Sea Ice Forum, Nevin’s Sea Ice Blog and Dr Master’s blog. They all fantastic places to visit to stay ahead of what’s going on in the real world.
correction: They are all fantastic places to visit to stay ahead of what’s going on in the real world.
Reggie,
Can you stop being an idiot please? Land temperatures tell you nothing about temperatures over the ice. When you get to seventh grade, they might teach you about “sea breezes”
In California, hot days in the central valley mean cold days off shore.
It is currently 85 degrees at Inuvik, even this late in the evening and the winds are blowing from the south at 10 miles per hour. That stiff offshore breeze is going to take it’s toll on the ice.
Do I have to show you the NOAA temperature map again. oh clueless wonder?
Of course it is currently colder over the ice, nobody is going to argue that fact. Here is a simple question, where is all the heat up there going?
Regardless, the area over the ice is going to be much warmer very soon.
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp2.html
“Amundsen took three summers to complete the passage, so it’s obvious there was a lot more ice then, than now.”
1906 V 2013
Did we have satellite imagery in 1906? GPS? Why is it obvious? How do you know? Where is the peer reviewed evidence for your claim?
Yes, with 24 hours of sunshine, it has been known to get quite hot over land at high latitudes. But the Arctic sea is not over land. Where most of the Arctic ice is located, it has been well below normal.
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