Never Let Reality Interfere With A Bad Climate Model

8 Responses to Never Let Reality Interfere With A Bad Climate Model

1. Douglas Hoyt says:

   June 20, 2013 at 12:21 am

   Last summer the drought monitor for the panhandle of West Virginia claimed the area was in a moderate drought, but the grass in my lawn was green all summer long, when usually it turns brown by August. So it was actually wetter than normal, when the drought monitor said the opposite. Maybe they have adjusted the Palmer Drought Index.

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2. Eric Simpson says:

   June 20, 2013 at 1:35 am

   Um, climate models have “under-predicted” nothing. The models are garbage.
   Worse are the verbal predictions of doom. Take (as per my hotair comment):
   “Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” -Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC
   “Entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000…” -Noel Brown, ex UNEP Director, 1988
   “[in 2008] the West Side Highway [and so much of Manhattan, NY] will be under water…” -James Hansen, NASA, 1988

   Now where’s the sea??
   Just exactly where it was in 1988. No change! Don’t believe any of the same fear mongering bs about sea level that the doomsayers continue to regurgitate year after year. The sea will remain the same!

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   • Olaf Koenders says:

     June 20, 2013 at 12:49 pm

     Mann’s brain fart is a complete lie, as usual. His new accommodation can be seen here:

     http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Hanging_of_William_Kidd.jpg

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3. Eric Simpson says:

   June 20, 2013 at 1:52 am

   And by the way, I made another hotair comment today that I set here as my website (click my name) because I’m thinking maybe it’s my best comment. It’s an abridgement of a previous wuwt comment I made. It’s starts with the following blockquote, and then continues with quotes etc:

   From the liberal The Economist: The mismatch between rising greenhouse-gas emissions and not-rising temperatures [15 year temperature stall] is among the biggest puzzles in climate science just now.

   Now you see so many warmists saying things like: “Well, what if we are wrong? Will we have done such a terrible thing by building a better world anyway?”
   A better world?
   Like the – 83% – CO2 cuts by 2050 mandated by the Cap & Trade bill that passed the US House in 2009. 83%, with large cuts coming quickly and immediately. This would have taken a wrecking ball to the economy, and created virtually apocalyptic havoc. “A better world,” I’m afraid not.
   Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren had said as early as 1973 that we must embark on a large scale program to “de-develop” the United States and create a “low-consumption economy.” Holdren said this way before the gwarming scare. Nevertheless, de-development was what he wanted then, and now.
   The leftist Senator Tim Wirth said in 1993: “We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing.”
   It’s amazing how deception is so openly and explicitly called for to achieve their idea of “the right thing.” Their own words:
   “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” -Paul Watson, Greenpeace
   “We have to offer up scary scenarios… each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective [dishonest] and being honest [ineffective].” -Stephen Schneider, lead ipcc author, 1989
   “I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of .. how dangerous it is.” -Al Gore
   “Only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention.” -Monika Kopacz, Atmospheric Scientist
   “The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” -Daniel Botkin, ex Chair of Environmental Studies, UCSB
   Hence, the fear mongering Chicken Littles, the broken record prognostications of doom that are starting to sound a lot like constant crying wolf.

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   • tckev says:

     June 20, 2013 at 3:20 am

     But how much worse if all the little blog sites like this one, Tallbloke’s Talkshop, ChiefIO, WUWT and all the rest were not battling to educate the public and Government.
     Steven and all the rest may only have small powers compared to governments and the grant troughers of academia but it can be very effective sometimes.

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   • Eric Simpson says:

     June 20, 2013 at 3:48 am

     Excellent point, tc.
     And I think the skeptic blogs were absolutely instrumental in 2009 and 2010 of widely changing the opinion of those that were open-minded and in fact willing to go out of their way to get a different view on agw… and those people are conservatives. Without the blogs we’d probably be living under the cap & trade bill I mentioned above, and our economy would be really tanking.
     Unfortunately most liberals are not going to be receptive, and most independents won’t go “out of their way” to get the skeptic message. That’s where paid media comes in. We could cut through the fog created by the leftist MSM .. with targeted ads on agw. And an effective campaign would likely be self-supporting as conservatives would donate mega-$. Somebody just needs to do the intial creative and have a tiny bit of starter dough. Then we could save the world from the scourge of the agw fiction.

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4. omnologos says:

   June 20, 2013 at 6:47 am

   As far as Mann is concerned, any change will do…he’s the true heir of Schneider and just as clueless and useless about what the “change” will be.

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5. Justa Joe says:

   June 20, 2013 at 11:00 am

   Mann doesn’t know what’s going to happen, but he’s sure that it will be BAD.

   If Greenland melted down where’s AlGores 20′ sea level rise?

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