It’s absolutely fabulous that they’ll be cultivating awareness for us all:)
Hopefully they’ll be packing, as the Polar Bears might look at them as easy pickings…
http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2010/06/the-alarmists-paradox.html
“So should the Arctic sea ice melt as fast as possible in the summer, crippling the PR effort of the pseudo-skeptics? Or should we hope for a gradual transition to an ice-free Arctic so there is enough time to act and mitigate/adapt? Do I want pseudo-skeptics like Steven Goddard to be right and successfully parade their Galileo-martyrdom? Aaarrrggghhh…
Sure, it’s a cliché, but very appropriate:”
To be or not to be– that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And, by opposing, end them.
It terrifies them — which is why they become so angry when you suggest that it might not melt. One of the early reasons why I began to actually investigate the whole global warming matter was because of that anger. Speaking to friends whom I thought were rational, I noticed than any questioning of the global warming theory made them angry. This did not make sense. Why would they get so mad when I was just asking questions? It didn’t take long to discover that theirs was an emotional belief, not a rational, scientific belief. I think that at some level, they are so unhappy with themselves that they really do want to see all human life destroyed. I try to tell them that the world is not ending — but they do not want to hear it. They refuse to look at the data, the measurements, the charts. They literally tell me that they do not want to see such things.
Regarding Steve’s question of the 80 lb bow vs the PB.
I do believe ‘To be or not to be’- is not going to be the question, it will be the answer.
On ice or on water, It would be best to keep a distance. Contrary to perception, they are great long distance swimmers and often surprise a would meal by coming from below with ferocity and they love to hunt from icebergs.
Also, as I am not familiar with this adventure, is it simply that–an adventure, or are they trying to make a statement of some kind by drawing attention to their adventure?
…..Contrary to perception, they are great long distance swimmers…..
You’re damned right. 🙂
Abstract
Consequences of long-distance swimming and travel over deep-water pack ice for a female polar bear during a year of extreme sea ice retreat
….Between an initial capture in late August and a recapture in late October 2008, a radio-collared adult female polar bear in the Beaufort Sea made a continuous swim of 687 km over 9 days and then intermittently swam and walked on the sea ice surface an additional 1,800 km…..The extraordinary long distance swimming ability of polar bears, which we confirm here, may help them cope with reduced Arctic sea ice…… http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=24131717
But what about the drowning cubs? I have to wonder how they managed during the ice free summers of the Holocene Climate Optimum.
Abstract
Polar bear cubs may reduce chilling from icy water by sitting on mother’s back
…We describe an observation of a polar bear cub on its mother’s back while the mother was swimming among ice floes in Svalbard, Norwegian Arctic. Similar observations are to our knowledge not earlier described in the scientific literature. We point out that this behaviour minimize exposure to cold water and hence significantly may reduce chilling of the cub…. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00300-009-0721-3
We had idiots up there in the late 70’s too….they would arrive in the High Arctic via whatever means and think they could just fuel up their airplane at the local Gas Station, and continue on their merry way around. We would see condition go from sunny and clear to snow/fog and heavy clouds in minutes…where do you think they would land? The ice….ya, guess what, it would open up one day and then be piled up thick and fast for weeks. I just wish Search and Rescue would just leave the ‘Darwin’ wanna-be’s up there…
The temperature map you shows is not below freezing. It is in Celsius, not fahrenheit. Freezing is 0, not 32. So all the temperatures are above freezing.
I honestly don’t think these guys give a whit about whether or not CAGW is real. Lefties don’t like to think very far into an issue. It’s their meal ticket for a free adventure, and a path to future wealth and notoriety. Done! They’ll take some pictures of open water, even if the pics came from base camp, make up a few stories, Hope for a dead Polar Bear…..
Meanwhile the expedition to cross the Antarctic in Winter has been abandoned.
It was too cold -50C. Too many cravasses.. They were chewing through their fuel supplies for their vehicles with the lack of progress. That was mentioned on local TV here lastnight.
LOL. 🙂 But I thought it was like a Turkish sauna down there. Jokes aside, I just hope these fools don’t freeze themselves into blocks rummaging around both poles. In April of 2009 the Catlin expedition got a nasty shock too. Their machinery and equipment broke down due to cold. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7991801.stm
Fred Bear, on of the greatest archers who ever lived, hunted Polar Bears with a pointy stick. The first couple had to be dropped by the backup – with a rifle – It took several before he got one to expire from just an arrow. I wish them luck
Another expedition, at the other end of the world, seems to have hit problems: http://www.thecoldestjourney.org/blog/news-from-hq/polar-crossing-halted-science-programme-to-take-precedence/
On the face of it, due to “unexpected crevasses”, but it does say that :
“As temperatures have dropped, so the incidence of differing technical problems has increased to the point where a fundamental decision has had to be made.”
Of course the leader of the expedition, Sir Ranulph Fiennes, had already had to pull out as a result of getting frostbite after removing his outer gloves to fix a ski binding in temperatures of -33c.
Someone of his experience should really have known better, although the frostbite has been partially blamed on the onset of diabetes.
While one purpose of the expedition was to raise awarenes and funds for the blindness charity “Seeing is Believing”, it was also to bring attention to and do reseach into, the effects of “global warming” on Antarctica.
With regard to dealing with bears, I recently saw a picture of a great sign in the woods in British Columbia. It said:
**********************************
Due to the frequency of human-bear encounters, the B.C. Fish and Wildlife Branch is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, and any persons that use the out-of-doors in a recreational or work related function to take extra precautions while in the field.
We advise the outdoorsman to wear little noisy bells on clothing so as to give advance warning to any bears that might be close by so you don’t take them by surprise. We also advise anyone using the out-of-doors to carry “Pepper Spray” with him in case of an encounter with a bear.
Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for fresh bear activity, and be able to tell the difference between black bear droppings and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries. Grizzly bear droppings have bells in them and smell like pepper.
It’s absolutely fabulous that they’ll be cultivating awareness for us all:)
Hopefully they’ll be packing, as the Polar Bears might look at them as easy pickings…
What is your opinion on an 80 lb bow vs. a Polar Bear?
Works great, with a hand grenade attached to the tip:)
Albeit a bit tricky to draw after pulling the pin, I’d wager.
Your good pals are optimists of the unusual kind:
http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2010/06/the-alarmists-paradox.html
“So should the Arctic sea ice melt as fast as possible in the summer, crippling the PR effort of the pseudo-skeptics? Or should we hope for a gradual transition to an ice-free Arctic so there is enough time to act and mitigate/adapt? Do I want pseudo-skeptics like Steven Goddard to be right and successfully parade their Galileo-martyrdom? Aaarrrggghhh…
Sure, it’s a cliché, but very appropriate:”
To be or not to be– that is the question:
Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And, by opposing, end them.
Interesting. The thought of the Arctic not melting terrifies them.
It terrifies them — which is why they become so angry when you suggest that it might not melt. One of the early reasons why I began to actually investigate the whole global warming matter was because of that anger. Speaking to friends whom I thought were rational, I noticed than any questioning of the global warming theory made them angry. This did not make sense. Why would they get so mad when I was just asking questions? It didn’t take long to discover that theirs was an emotional belief, not a rational, scientific belief. I think that at some level, they are so unhappy with themselves that they really do want to see all human life destroyed. I try to tell them that the world is not ending — but they do not want to hear it. They refuse to look at the data, the measurements, the charts. They literally tell me that they do not want to see such things.
It may be that the thought of large crowds coming after them with torches & pitchforks terrifies them even more:)
Apparently they’re also upset that they may not be able to end us:)
3-1/2″ 10 gauge slugs and semi-auto’s may give them pause…
Regarding Steve’s question of the 80 lb bow vs the PB.
I do believe ‘To be or not to be’- is not going to be the question, it will be the answer.
On ice or on water, It would be best to keep a distance. Contrary to perception, they are great long distance swimmers and often surprise a would meal by coming from below with ferocity and they love to hunt from icebergs.
Also, as I am not familiar with this adventure, is it simply that–an adventure, or are they trying to make a statement of some kind by drawing attention to their adventure?
They’re on a mission from their god to make the public aware of our sins that are causing CAGW devastation.
Apparently, PBs can also decapitate a human with one swipe! Big paws and very strong arms, and very, very fast.
That might put a dent in the public’s love of these cuddly looking animals – when rescuers only find the bits of bodies that aren’t eaten.
You’re damned right. 🙂
But what about the drowning cubs? I have to wonder how they managed during the ice free summers of the Holocene Climate Optimum.
Hey, thanks Jimbo, that was interesting. 687 Km, Wow!
We had idiots up there in the late 70’s too….they would arrive in the High Arctic via whatever means and think they could just fuel up their airplane at the local Gas Station, and continue on their merry way around. We would see condition go from sunny and clear to snow/fog and heavy clouds in minutes…where do you think they would land? The ice….ya, guess what, it would open up one day and then be piled up thick and fast for weeks. I just wish Search and Rescue would just leave the ‘Darwin’ wanna-be’s up there…
Long, long before the birth of the current crop of deceivers, it was written by the wise:
“Truth is victorious, never untruth.”
and “Pride goeth before the fall.
The conclusion to AGW was thus foretold.
Oliver K. Manuel
Former NASA Principal
Investigator for Apollo
We live in hope this is so…
The temperature map you shows is not below freezing. It is in Celsius, not fahrenheit. Freezing is 0, not 32. So all the temperatures are above freezing.
I’m sorry. I didn’t realize that you are color blind.
I honestly don’t think these guys give a whit about whether or not CAGW is real. Lefties don’t like to think very far into an issue. It’s their meal ticket for a free adventure, and a path to future wealth and notoriety. Done! They’ll take some pictures of open water, even if the pics came from base camp, make up a few stories, Hope for a dead Polar Bear…..
Meanwhile the expedition to cross the Antarctic in Winter has been abandoned.
It was too cold -50C. Too many cravasses.. They were chewing through their fuel supplies for their vehicles with the lack of progress. That was mentioned on local TV here lastnight.
‘The Coldest Journey’ called off
http://www.3news.co.nz/The-Coldest-Journey-called-off/tabid/1160/articleID/302573/Default.aspx
LOL. 🙂 But I thought it was like a Turkish sauna down there. Jokes aside, I just hope these fools don’t freeze themselves into blocks rummaging around both poles. In April of 2009 the Catlin expedition got a nasty shock too. Their machinery and equipment broke down due to cold.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7991801.stm
Fred Bear, on of the greatest archers who ever lived, hunted Polar Bears with a pointy stick. The first couple had to be dropped by the backup – with a rifle – It took several before he got one to expire from just an arrow. I wish them luck
Normal surface temperatures for a normal environment:)
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/fnl/sfctmp_01.fnl.html
Another expedition, at the other end of the world, seems to have hit problems:
http://www.thecoldestjourney.org/blog/news-from-hq/polar-crossing-halted-science-programme-to-take-precedence/
On the face of it, due to “unexpected crevasses”, but it does say that :
“As temperatures have dropped, so the incidence of differing technical problems has increased to the point where a fundamental decision has had to be made.”
Of course the leader of the expedition, Sir Ranulph Fiennes, had already had to pull out as a result of getting frostbite after removing his outer gloves to fix a ski binding in temperatures of -33c.
Someone of his experience should really have known better, although the frostbite has been partially blamed on the onset of diabetes.
While one purpose of the expedition was to raise awarenes and funds for the blindness charity “Seeing is Believing”, it was also to bring attention to and do reseach into, the effects of “global warming” on Antarctica.
Sorry, I hadn’t seen Marian’s post when I posted the above.
With regard to dealing with bears, I recently saw a picture of a great sign in the woods in British Columbia. It said:
**********************************
Due to the frequency of human-bear encounters, the B.C. Fish and Wildlife Branch is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, and any persons that use the out-of-doors in a recreational or work related function to take extra precautions while in the field.
We advise the outdoorsman to wear little noisy bells on clothing so as to give advance warning to any bears that might be close by so you don’t take them by surprise. We also advise anyone using the out-of-doors to carry “Pepper Spray” with him in case of an encounter with a bear.
Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for fresh bear activity, and be able to tell the difference between black bear droppings and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries. Grizzly bear droppings have bells in them and smell like pepper.