Shock News : White House Up To No Good Again

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US embassy closures used to bolster case for NSA surveillance programs | World news | theguardian.com

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10 Responses to Shock News : White House Up To No Good Again

  1. Wizzum says:

    I’m stunned.

  2. crosspatch says:

    1: I tend not to believe much printed by The Guardian. 2: I don’t buy it because too many other countries are also taking precautions and many of them are countries that would not buy into covering Obama’s rear end (Pakistan, for example).

    • The Guardian is the only MSM news source which has been on top of this subject.

      • crosspatch says:

        I wouldn’t consider them to be “on top” of the subject. I would consider them to be piling speculation over kernels of truth and then inflating it with extrapolation. The mission of The Guardian is to do as much damage to the US as it possibly can. The notion that these closures and warnings are being used to bolster the case for NSA is speculation at best. More likely they are simply inventing “plausible scenarios”. The fundamental problem with that notion is the scope of precautions being taken by countries that don’t give a rat’s pair of hips about Obama or any of his programs. In this case I believe that The Guardian is simply making it up.

  3. NikFromNYC says:

    Related news:

    A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.

    Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin – not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges.

    The undated documents show that federal agents are trained to “recreate” the investigative trail to effectively cover up where the information originated, a practice that some experts say violates a defendant’s Constitutional right to a fair trial. If defendants don’t know how an investigation began, they cannot know to ask to review potential sources of exculpatory evidence – information that could reveal entrapment, mistakes or biased witnesses.

    “I have never heard of anything like this at all,” said Nancy Gertner, a Harvard Law School professor who served as a federal judge from 1994 to 2011. Gertner and other legal experts said the program sounds more troubling than recent disclosures that the National Security Agency has been collecting domestic phone records. The NSA effort is geared toward stopping terrorists; the DEA program targets common criminals, primarily drug dealers.

    “It is one thing to create special rules for national security,” Gertner said. “Ordinary crime is entirely different. It sounds like they are phonying up investigations.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805?feedType=RSS&irpc=932

  4. crosspatch says:

    Here’s what I believe is going on with this:

    The Obama administration in its zeal to find footballs to publicly spike has widely released information that they intercepted high level AQ chatter that indicated an impending strike of some sort. From the sounds of other rumblings I am hearing, this is information that various US intelligence agencies and those of other countries would have much rather have been kept quiet about. Now the administration has put itself in a position where nothing good can come of it. Some, like Guardian, are going to say it is just posturing to protect NSA. But if nothing happens, Obama risks “The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf” problem and all that needs to happen to create that problem is for the perpetrators to simply wait a while. Or if the attack isn’t as “devastating” as has been claimed, he risks a “Chicken Little” problem. Or maybe by simply releasing this information, he has inadvertently exposed how we got it and there won’t be any more of it in the future.

    But the bottom line seems to be an administration that is exceptionally naive and is desperate to be seen as being competent and in so doing come off with very incompetent actions. In order to shine the spotlight on our secret intelligence to show how competent it is, he is actually damaging that intelligence capability and causing probably every such agency in the rest of the world to cringe. Why anyone would want to share information with the Obama administration is beyond me as Obama would simply want everyone in the world to hang a copy of it on their refrigerator to see what a good boy he is.

    This currently episode is actually, to my mind, a textbook example of how you do not do things and is indicative of some serious issues within this administration. They are naive and incompetent and desperate to be liked.

  5. Robert of Ottawa says:

    If the NSA snooping was so smart and productive, how come they couldn’t stop two amateur brothers in Boston that they were warned about the Russians? I call BS.

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