Turns Out The 97% Greenland Ice Meltdown Of 2012, Was Actually A Net Gain

11 Responses to Turns Out The 97% Greenland Ice Meltdown Of 2012, Was Actually A Net Gain

1. bobmaginnis says:

   August 19, 2013 at 12:30 pm

   Steve wrote: “During a normal Greenland meltdown year, the ice sheet gains almost 400 gigatons of ice.” but from his link: “…Now, near the end of the melt season, we are thus about 200 Gt below the average. Although this is not as alarming as last year’s record melt, it is nevertheless a substantial loss in the total mass budget for the ice sheet….”

   Total mass budget link with sea level contribution at:
   http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland-ice-shelf/nbsp/total-mass-change/#c7184

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   • miked1947 says:

     August 19, 2013 at 3:22 pm

     They might be reading the “Signs” or Tea Leaves”! Looks like “Best Guess” estimates to me. I know, It was derived from their Super Scientific Models that create Virtual ice conditions and virtual sea levels.

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   • Paul Homewood says:

     August 19, 2013 at 3:59 pm

     It’s actually bang on the 2003-12 average.

     What of course we don’t know is what it was running at in the past.

     Given that the LIA was the coldest period in Greenland since the Ice Age, it is hardly surprising that it has been melting since. Indeed it has been melting since the end of the Ice Age.

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2. Phineas Fahrquar says:

   August 19, 2013 at 2:24 pm

   Reblogged this on Public Secrets and commented:
   Yet another of the “inconvenient truths” that send Warmists into a frenzy.

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3. Andy DC says:

   August 19, 2013 at 4:38 pm

   Again, they blow a non-existent even into a “crisis”. Crisis means we want your money, lots of it, right now, with no questions asked.

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4. John B., M.D. says:

   August 19, 2013 at 5:01 pm

   Steve, how did you get the English version? Link?
   This is really stunning to gain ice in the record meltdown year.

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   • bobmaginnis says:

     August 19, 2013 at 6:57 pm

     John, I found the English at the upper right hand:
     http://polarportal.dk/en/nyheder/arkiv/news/greenland-ice-sheet-melt-season-coming-to-an-end/

     I don’t find it stunning for a land mostly North of Alaska, with an average 7,000 foot elevation to start freezing now, but from the above link: “…Although this is not as alarming as last year’s record melt, it is nevertheless a substantial loss in the total mass budget for the ice sheet.
     total mass budget (loss) at:
     http://polarportal.dk/en/greenland-ice-shelf/nbsp/total-mass-change/#c7184

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5. TomC says:

   August 19, 2013 at 5:58 pm

   Looks like the ablation zone in west Greenland has already frozen over …

   http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r02c02.2013231.terra.250m

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6. pjie2 (@pjie2) says:

   August 19, 2013 at 9:07 pm

   Please learn the difference between surface mass balance and total mass balance.
   http://www.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/

   In addition to the surface mass balance (= snowfall minus melt) there is also calving round the edges. Current total mass balance is estimated at -200 Gt/yr. What that graph actually shows is that in 2012 there was almost no net accumulation to replace the hundreds of Gt being calved.

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   • John B., M.D. says:

     August 19, 2013 at 9:10 pm

     If more Greenland ice melts, then we will find more Viking settlements and discover why it was named Greenland.

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   • stevengoddard says:

     August 20, 2013 at 11:23 am

     Glacial advance and calving is a response to excess ice being deposited in the interior. If the amount of ice accumulating diminishes, then so does the amount of calving.

     Please learn the difference between steady state equilibrium and a fake AGW catastrophe.

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