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So you better cut down your own tree soon…
Merry Christmas!
BTW, when someone puts “approx 100%” do they mean less than 100% or more than 100%?
This is where they get you. IF you Try to pay attention your head hurts… so you just stop.
Well, it’s most certainly peer-reviewed so it must be physically possible for more than 100% of the trees in an area to die. Otherwise you’re just denying basic science.
I knew I should trust these guys. I feel smarter already.
Yes Mike,approx. 100% probably equates to 5%. Just as 97% consensus equates to 3%. No adjustments needed.
And just as “ice free” means a million km2.
Nuttycelli must be referring to all Christmas trees that are “dying” due to lack of snow cover.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26704-climate-change-will-leave-christmas-trees-in-hot-water.html
Meanwhile China is planting Billions of trees to improve their environment. I guess that means each person in China plants one or two.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22429994.900-great-wall-of-trees-keeps-chinas-deserts-at-bay.html#.VJEG5sOQ-71
You’re right! I think I remember seeing a video of a stranded Christmas Tree on a little piece of ice floating in the ocean. It was sad.
+10
Yea, you can. There are some Hotwhopper trolls over at WUWT that are doing about the same. Gruberites.
Obviously Dana Nuttybutt hasn’t heard of Leucaena leucocephala and the experiment run in the 1970s.
Leucaena leucocephala
Yikes McDonald’s say nuttercelli [100%] a nutter.
He might have meant that approximately 100% of forests in the southwest that are effected by drought will suffer some level of mortality..Another example why basic language and communication skills need to be more strictly taught and why Twitter makes everyone dumber.
All forests affected by drought suffer some level of mortality. If they didn’t, it wouldn’t be a drought. And if that’s the idea Nutterjelly was trying to convey, he’s still an idiot.
“Nuttercelli Says All Trees Dead By 2050”
The tweet says “IN SW USA”
The lead is very deceptive. Are all trees in the SW USA in your mind?
“Eleven studies modeling future conditions in the region’s forests have shown that if today’s carbon emissions continue to increase at the rate they have over the past decade, many pine trees in the Southwest will likely be gone by 2050, even without wildfire.”
http://www.takepart.com/feature/2014/10/17/rio-grande-water-fund-forest-treatments
1980 is roughly when this scare started. So we are now 34 years into it. That’s 50% of the time frm 1980-2050, so as a rule of thumb we should be seeing 50% of the effect.
Last year I finally got around to taking a few pictures of our beech hedge so that I could accurately check whether any future year has had even the smallest effect. That’s how big this thing is – so f-ing small that even someone who’s interested can’t see any difference.
I suppose it could happen if California goes back into a hundred year long drought like it did before CO2 was a blamed for droughts.
Yes, all those 2,000 year old redwood trees died during the last drought.
We have some big old Kauri trees in NZ as well.
“all those 2,000 year old redwood trees died”
Ha! Yes, and then they un-died again.
“It miracles!” 🙂 <— Pardon the Engrish, but I read that phrase in an advertisement apparently put together somewhere in Asia. It is my new go-to phrase. Still not quite as wonderful as my bottle of soy-sauce; the brand is "Strong America Golden Smell". Good soy-sauce.
What is offered in the way of scientific proof? Not evidence, but PROOF?
Take this story about lessons we can learn from the (non-existent because there was no human industrial revolution) Global Warming period of 56 million years ago:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/global-warming-56-million-years-ago-holds-lessons-for-climate-change-today/
Where are the scientific instrument packages verifying that the strata of 56 million years ago had global temperatures as advertised? Where have scientists used modern means to replicate the conditions thought to have created the strata studied?
Sounds almost childish on my part, I admit–but how did you calibrate your tea leaves before reading? Or was it animal entrails? Science means peer review, means repeating the results.
My issue is that events that take years or decades and that are read millions of years later are subjectively read. So someone claims that all the trees (approximately 100%) will be dead by 2050 because of drought (what happened to the rising sea level?) The questionable record of past temperatures (prior to the development of scientific measuring devices of “high” accuracy) says otherwise. Were there trees 56 million years ago? The claim that there were no polar ice caps–if I were to make that claim, wouldn’t I be required to PROVE my claim? The entire paleoclimatology field is based on ASSUME and it doesn’t take much to collapse a house built of playing cards.
Oh NOOO!!! Time to panic!
http://i61.tinypic.com/29mn4gn.jpg
If dust is an indication for dry than cooler is dryer.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Vostok_Petit_data.svg/2000px-Vostok_Petit_data.svg.png
Nuttercelli if he loves trees should demand a higher CO2 concentration in the air. It would mean trees could do the same job with less water.
Exactly!
And don’t forget volcanoes killing trees too.
The eruption of the volcano Pico do Fogo has destroyed two villages and threatens a forest reserve.
http://news.sky.com/story/1392966/volcano-erupts-destroying-cape-verde-villages
The mental disorder Climate Alarmism, which is a sub group of Liberal Mental Disorder consists of who can top the previous ridiculous alarmist claim. Lo/no info humanoids eagerly await the next proclamation.
Climate Science Fiction.
Science? Climate Seance if you ask me.
+1 🙂
The stupid force is strong in Nuttercelli 😉
Where were the forests in North America at the height of the last ice age.
Only in the US south-east. The rest of North America was either ice, or grassland or desert or tundra.
The reason there was no other forests is partly because of the cold, partly because of the lower precipitation but mainly because of the lower CO2 levels.
C3 trees need warmth, higher precipitation and/or higher CO2. There was simply not enough precip to offset the lower CO2 levels. C4 Grasses can survive both but not C3 plants and trees. Nuccitelli obviously doesn’t care about this truth because he is obsessed with lying about climate change.
He is actually the biggest exaggerator in this debate, bar none. And that is really saying something because we have many extreme examples.
Chronic drought in the SW…it’s called a desert. Derp!
There were virtually no forests in Europe, too. Only Italy and Spain, it appears, had woodlands.
The belief that there will never be another Ice Age is utterly insane.
We are losing trees to pine beetle blight and mismanagement by the forest service. Forest Service mismanagement is a product of liberal politicians and fascist environmentalists determining forest policy and not the foresters working for the agency.
+1
You really really need fire to keep a forest healthy. Small controlled fires clear out competing underbrush, return nutrients to the soil, and more important kill of disease and insect infestations.
I can figure that out and I have no forest management knowledge.
When I was fighting fires the standard joke about Forest Service mismanagement went like this; How does a forest manager fight a grease fire in the kitchen? He starts a backfire in the living room.
Here, Gail, those controlled burns happen twice per year, weather permitting. I guess part of the Forest Service has not been corrupted, yet.
It is the econuts out west esp. in places like California and Colorado who are banning controlled burns.
Given the EPA’s newest idiocy*** of demanding states control their ozone and fine particulate output, expect to see controlled burning in managed private forests and farms to be banned first. Along with plowing and other farming activities like harvesting – farm dust. (MA had already banned burning by the 1990s) This will be followed by banning all fireplaces and wood stoves.
Those are the easiest ways of cutting CO2 emissions, ozone and fine particulate output, within a state without killing off energy.
***proposed Cross State Air Pollution Rule (CSAPR))
Regulatory Impact Analysis for the Federal Implementation Plans to Reduce Interstate Transport of Fine Particulate Matter and Ozone in 27 States; Correction of SIP Approvals for 22 States
http://www.epa.gov/airtransport/pdfs/FinalRIA.pdf
Heh.
Alabama will never meet those silly ozone standards as long as there is life here. Too much sun and too many green growing things emitting VOCs. Sulfur dioxide could be met. NOx? Same problem there as the one related to ozone. Too many life forms directly emitting oxides of nitrogen in addition to the photochemical production from the VOCs.
What? You didn’t know that mammals emit nitric oxide in addition to what their gut bacteria make?
They (Nutter et al) gang are getting quite good at just making shit up.
What are they defining “SW USA” as? Imperial Beach?
I’m stunned that he didn’t think to say there was a 97% chance. He needs to go attend Michael Mann’s talk on the ethics of promoting Climate Alarmism, so he keep his climate propaganda streamlined.
http://jjreuter.wordpress.com/2014/12/14/not-so-fast-planting-trees-might-cause-warming/
Wait a minute, I thought trees CAUSED global warming. You can’t make this stuff up.
It’s really annoying to know that it will be possible our children but definitely our grandchildren who will free of all this nonsense by 2100. I want it to happen today but have to look upon it like communism, it has to run its course.
Don’t worry, by then we’ll have a new pseudo-scientific moral panic.
And This Time, It Will Be Different (TM)
What is so surprising about this is that it is at the AGU2014.
What do the other AGU participants think of his scaremongering and why aren’t there any who disagree shooting him down in flames?
Our culture (including academia) has lost its ideological immune system. Any idiocy can be promulgated with very little reaction from the remaining healthy individuals. As you ask, “What do the other AGU participants think of his scaremongering and why aren’t there any who disagree shooting him down in flames?” Darn good question.
What causes humans to lose their physical immune system? Maybe simple old age and passing years have destroyed their immune system. Maybe they have been overwhelmed by an infection which disguises itself as non-foreign cells. Here is a third, and increasingly common reason: maybe it has been done on purpose. Maybe someone is administering a drug to destroy the immune system. Why would anyone give such a drug? If the person in question is undergoing a transplant, the immune system needs to be stopped so that the new transplant can take root without being rejected. The white cells must be shut down so that the foreign tissue may have biological immunity.
Here is an analogy. There are, at present, an unknown number of millions of people being brought into our culture. Some of them come from cultures very much like our own, but some come from nations and cultures which hold ideas in direct opposition to our traditions. They have all been promised (by both major political parties) some sort of immunity from legal prosecution. I would not be surprised if whoever is responsible for encouraging the millions of foreign immigrants, is the same group which has inculcated the idea that we should be quiet and passive in the face of obvious error and scaremongering.
As you say, why don’t honest people speak up? Why do we submit to idiocy? There has to be a reason.
READ: The book Willing Accomplices: How KGB Covert Influence Agents Created Political Correctness and Destroyed America by Kent Clizbe
READ: The speeches by Congressman Louis T. McFadden (He was assasinated when he would not shut-up.)
READ: The Socialist-Capitalist Alliance: the Fabian Society, the Frankfurt School, and Big Business: Part One
And for a specific example of how the Elite influenced the USA over decades via one of Milner’s Round Tables:
(wwwDOT)opednews.com/articles/History-HACCP-and-the-Foo-by-Nicole-Johnson-090906-229.html
I used to think it was just the natural increase of too many laws over the life of a country. Now I know it was the intentional, calculated destruction of the USA and especially the destruction of a free middle class.
Of course that makes me a nutty Conspiracy Theorist except the evidence is massive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNXmjhHZaY8
This is also pertinent.
There used to be a very big forest near my home time of Aberfeldy in Scotland. (I planted a million trees in Scotland myself back in the 80’s.) They cut a lot of them down a couple of years ago to build a wind farm.
The idiots are doing the same here in the USA and killing off our big raptors like Golden Eagles and Bald Eagles not to mention bats and smaller birds.
That ANYONE concerned about the environment would support wind power boggles the mind.
I keep telling these geniuses they should be making billions of dollars investing based on their incredibly accurate models.
For some reason they only seem to want to spend taxpayer dollars.