“The science isn’t that complicated”

The Washington Post says the same weather California has always had is “what climate change looks like” and that warm air is the cause of droughts floods and snow.

The state was in drought. Then it was underwater. Welcome to the new normal. – The Washington Post

California drought conditions force residents to rely on bottled water – The Washington Post

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19 Responses to “The science isn’t that complicated”

  1. JimK says:

    Great Flood of 1862
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862

    The Great Flood of 1862 was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada, and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862. It was preceded by weeks of continuous rains and snows in the very high elevations that began in Oregon in November 1861 and continued into January 1862. This was followed by a record amount of rain from January 9–12, and contributed to a flood that extended from the Columbia River southward in western Oregon, and through California to San Diego, and extended as far inland as Idaho in the Washington Territory, Nevada and Utah in the Utah Territory, and Arizona in the western New Mexico Territory. The event dumped an equivalent of 10 feet (3.0 m) of water in California, in the form of rain and snow, over a period of 43 days.[3][4] Immense snowfalls in the mountains of far western North America caused more flooding in Idaho, Arizona, New Mexico, as well as in Baja California and Sonora, Mexico the following spring and summer, as the snow melted.

    The event was capped by a warm intense storm that melted the high snow load. The resulting snow-melt flooded valleys, inundated or swept away towns, mills, dams, flumes, houses, fences, and domestic animals, and ruined fields. It has been described as the worst disaster ever to strike California.[5] The storms caused approximately $100 million (1861 USD) in damage, approximately equal to $3.117 billion (2021 USD). The governor, state legislature, and state employees were not paid for a year and a half.[2] At least 4,000 people were estimated to have been killed in the floods in California, which was roughly 1% of the state population at the time.[1]
    (See the link for rest of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1862 )

    • Douglas Hoyt says:

      A California flood in 1605 may have been greater than the one in 1862.


    • Terry Shipman says:

      Even though I spent a 37 year career as a technician for the telephone company I am so thankful I received my degree in history back in 1974. Thanks to Tony’s research we can see that everything that is happening now has happened before.

      Last summer I had a conversation with our pastor’s wife who had heard that the last 20 years have been worse than the 1930’s. I knew that was nonsense because of my own study of the time period. I had memorized some statistics from Tony’s research concerning the second week of July 1936. I recited these to her and she had no comeback for that. I don’t know if I changed her mind. The idea that the last 20 years were worse than the 30’s is laughable.

      Changing or distorting historical records makes me very angry. The Wikipedia article you cite is a very well-researched article. It demonstrates that what is happening in California today has happened before. Imagine that, weather is CYCLICAL. But to keep it from being censored or banned as mis-information the following sentence had to be added at the very end:

      “The likelihood of a massive flooding event is estimated to have increased due to climate change.” Yeah, whatever.

  2. Gamecock says:

    ‘warmer air holds more moisture’

    Holds it til it gets to California.

    How holding more means more rain is dumb. Releasing more would mean more rain.

  3. Let me translate that for you Philip Bump : ” Doublespeak messaging is expected to happen more frequently as the world continues to warm “. And dont we know it

    .How do we know this ? Well the only multi centennial and multi decadal droughts affecting the Australian continent , South East Asia [ the collapse of Angkor ] the Western and South West United States , East Asia and the Middle East and North Africa occurred from the Little Ice Age to the Bronze Age according to the paleoclimatological record ……The pan hemispheric drought that devastated the Late Bronze Age societies of the Mediterranean and Egypt in an arc extending to Tibet and China lasted 200 years ..The worst droughts in the history of the American South West happened during the Medieval Warm Period when 70 % of the 12 th century Australian eastern half of the continent was in drought . The longest consecutive year drought in the Australian proxy series lasted for 39 years from 1174 – 1212 AD ..The most brutal droughts in Chinese history over the last millennium were the Ming Dynasty droughts from 1600 – 1650 AD which happens to be the coldest century of the Little Ice Age …Now what is the common denominator of these protracted droughts ? .

    They were all below the 300 ppm CO2 threshold and hot temperatures are not determinants of aridity unless you concede the MWP temperatures were warmer than the modern era ..Either way you lose the argument Phillip Bump

    As ‘for the bigger storms that produce more precipitation ” why has stormy cyclonic ACE decreased over the past 40 years Philip ?

  4. arn says:

    Nice that the Washington Pest finally admits that
    normal weather and climate change are the same
    and that there was not a single day in the history of this planet without climate disruption.

    The only difference is once again the classstruggle.
    Average Joe calls it normal weather
    while the communist experts who consider themselves superior (and promote a classless society(outside of their gated communities) at the same time)
    have to call it climate change in order to extract more and more money from average Joe.

    • Gamecock says:

      It’s not just the money.

      Many people want to be led. Any schtick will do. People strive to meet climate (sic) goals, and FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES when they do. Lest you think it strange, it is no different than church goers. Just different set of standards.

      People should live the way THEY want to live. That’s why Gamecock drives a GT350R, the best Mustang Ford will ever build.

      You wanna drive a Prius? Go ahead. Enjoy yourself. Feel good about yourself.

      I’ll enjoy myself the way I want to. Meeting someone else’s standards brings me no joy.

      • arn says:

        I have to disagree

        The 1965 mustang gt350 convertible is the best car ford has ever built.
        Second to AC Cobra 427 and may be the GT’s :)

        Btw,yes people want to be lead or to be more correct to belong to something that makes them feel special = feeding the own narcissism while pretending not to do so.And some feel just lonely and search for a cheap way out.
        And as someone once said ” People who don’t believe in god will believe in anything ”
        and after rationalising god away climate was chosen by the elites to fill the gap.

        But the scientific class is way more aware of scam and the most important thing to them is the feeling to be morally and intellectually superior and a return on collegeinvestment .

  5. GWS says:

    Paint a false threat and offer a false solution. — The left keeps repeating these same inane stories devoid of historical perspective every year; and the only people who read them are people who WANT to believe them. How do they stay in business?

  6. jb says:

    it seems like every year from Jan-Mar, California gets heavy rains.
    (Indeed, every year we hear about mud slides destroying coastal roads and having homes disintegrate into the sea)

  7. Gerald Machnee says:

    My mother never told me climate change started in 1862.

  8. Disillusioned says:

    It may not be that complicated, but they sure do go out of their way to make it that way. They can’t make up their minds what is supposed to happen with global warming. They change the symptoms with every vicissitude from Mother Nature. And they have the audacity to claim it is “Settled Science.” 🤨

  9. conrad ziefle says:

    If the warmer air holds more humidity (which it CAN, but not necessarily does) then shouldn’t high temperature, high humidity places, like Houston, flood all the time- by his simpleton logic? If high temperature air necessarily holds more moisture, then Arabia would be flooding all the time, right? Even if we have suffered global warming, it is incremental. It isn’t like the average temperature has gone up 20 degrees, increasing the POTENTIAL of holding more moisture by a meaningful amount, i.e. SF is not having Houston-like summer temperatures, right now. In fact, we are fairly cold here.
    So is the current flooding the greatest since 1862?
    Because I remember lots of floods in California since I moved here. Russian River floods, Santa Monica floods, Sacramento floods, SF Bay floods.
    Generally speaking, the weather stays within the bounds of our rather short period of record keeping, but given the right conditions, the alignment of the stars, so to speak, it could cross over the boundary of our known records.
    A good example of this is the lowlands of Northwestern Europe, from the Netherlands to Denmark. Around 300 AD the entire Frisian people were wiped out by a flood. About 500 AD the land was reoccupied by the immigration of Anglo, Saxons, and Jutes into the region. Since then the region has been flooded, caused 10,000s of deaths each time, in 1219, 1362, 1532, and 1634, and despite all the modern dikes and flood control, in the 1950s.
    Unfortunately, in California there have been no new reservoirs build, since, I think, Shasta Dam, 50+ years ago, so all of this water will flow into the sea, leaving us vulnerable to the next drought. Socialism prides itself in pretending that we all can live using Stone Age technologies, because their understanding of science is quite simple.

  10. Moist air contains latent heat of vaporisation, which increases the enthalpy of the gas/vapour mixture. The net effect of this is to reduce the local temperature lapse rate, so that the surface becomes cooler, eventually resulting in precipitation. Drying the air increases the lapse rate, which is why arid areas tend to be hot. The AGW ‘theory’ claims the opposite; that moisture increases the ‘greenhouse effect’, introducing ‘water vapour enhancement’, by which the middle of the Sahara Desert would be colder than the middle of the Atlantic Ocean at the same latitude. What a pile of BS!!

  11. Oeman 50 says:

    Ah, I pulled out my handy-dandy psychrometric chart and found that when you increase the temperature from 25C to 26.5C, the absolute humidity increase (at 100% RH) is 10%. So a 10% increase in water content yields all the nasty weather. Wait, did I just say weather? Hmmm. And of course, the atmosphere changes pressure, temperature, RH, and so one. So it is oversimplistic to explain changes in weather to simple temperature changes.

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