Net Zero In Europe

Spain and Portugal have achieved Net Zero, and the UK is working to catch up with them.

Spain-Portugal blackouts latest: First deaths emerge after mass power cut – including family of three | The Independent

“Boris Johnson to unveil plan to power all UK homes with wind by 2030”

Boris Johnson to unveil plan to power all UK homes with wind by 2030 | Conservative conference 2020 | The Guardian

The UK is currently getting 2% of their electricity from wind, and say it will be 100% within five years.

Wind power production as a percentage

“The closure of Grangemouth’s refinery sums up Labour’s Net Zero muddle”

The closure of Grangemouth’s refinery sums up Labour’s Net Zero muddle | The Spectator

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17 Responses to Net Zero In Europe

  1. oeman50 says:

    Question: If GB gets all their power from wind (in the future) and the wind dies down, what percentage of their power needs are met by wind? (Show your work.)

    Answer: 100% X 0 MW = 0 MW

    • arn says:

      Once you find out how many solar panels and windmills are needed to run a single 50 watt lightbulb in a windless night you will know what the problem with eco – communist energy is.

      Fun fact: Just a few days before the blackout the spanish government proudly announced that they had the first day with 100% renewable energy supply.

      After the Blackout the spanish government aka WEF announced that the reason for the blackout was an atmospheric phenomenon – that’s some real expert stuff..

      I’m pretty sure that such atmospheric phenomenons that haven’t occured
      since the Carrrington Event will happen in the near future on a daily basis.
      But not in those Nazi countries that rejected that green new deal.
      Those will suffer from permanent protests and selfcombusting power plants.

      • Francis Barnett says:

        Redes Energéticas Nacionais (REN), Portugal’s grid operator, said on Monday afternoon that the outage was caused by a “rare atmospheric phenomenon.”

        REN said that as a result of extreme temperature variations in Spain, there were “anomalous oscillations” in extremely high-voltage lines. This caused synchronization failures between systems which triggered the blackouts across the European network”

        “anomalous oscillations” that’s real wooo-wooo stuff – LOL!!

        • A distribution network must adapt itself to changes in load and supply, it is a complex feedback controller. If there were ‘anomalous oscillations’, the implication is that the dynamics of the system have not been adequately characterized, and nobody has identified the conditions for instability.

  2. Rud Istvan says:

    Nice photo of the Iberian Peninsula during the Net Zero blackout.

  3. Rud Istvan says:

    Nice photo of Iberian Peninsula during Net Zero blackout.

  4. Bob G says:

    Another day, another scare story on Greenland melting. melting melting melting melting we’ve heard it for years we’ve heard it for decades and yet the ferry boats in New York City are still docking at the same piers. https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientist-sounds-alarm-disturbing-photo-121558211.html

  5. conrad ziefle says:

    Somewhere I read that the Portuguese wisely let the CCP, or subsidiary thereof, take over their electric utility. Someone was complaining that they gave you exactly the amount, both demand and energy, that you paid for, so if you underestimated your needs, you got cut off the instant you went over it.

  6. It is called the principle of requisite entropy. If the plant can’t adapt itself to the variations in supply and load, it will fail. That is why ‘renewables’ must be backed up with gas powered plant and storage facilities to ensure this kind of failure doesn’t occur. In effect the capacity must be at least double that supplied by the ‘renewables’, hence 100% wind energy is an intrinsically idiotic idea, but reflects the level of Boris’ (and Milliband’s) understanding of engineering.

    • arn says:

      This may lead us to the conclusion that the 100% green energy scenario they are talking about will be kind of 30% of what it used to be before the green energy lunacy.
      They may succeed to build back worser 40% of the original grid and leave the remaining 60% as back up for crazy energy.

      • The base load might be supplied by nuclear, but there is no way a nuclear plant can be brought on line and shut down in the time scale of the fluctuations in the ‘renewables’ output. Gas seems to have the advantage that it can be brought on line relatively quickly, but instability of the overall system is practically a certainty. Energy storage systems might even out the load, but are a further expense. In any case the existing distribution network must be replaced. The ‘100% renewable energy’ mantra reflects the old aphorism that anything is possible, when you don’t know what you are talking about.

        • A cynic would think that the purpose of ‘smart meters’ is to shut down domestic demand remotely in order to balance the system. I couldn’t possibly comment.

        • arn says:

          I think you discovered the real purpose of smart meters.
          At least one of them.

          As Nuclear plants have a significant pre-built up and can only handle known fluctuations and even gas powered plants should have problems with compensating on/off windbursts and sudden stops
          I’d guess that the endgame actually is that almost all people will eventually have to own/rent batteries
          with 0 autonomy and that the state can store and take the energy with their smartmeters out of your battery whenever they want to ,to keep the system stable – in theory.

  7. conrad ziefle says:

    Fossil fuels are green energy; the rest are not. Fossil fuels return CO2 to the atmosphere that was taken out by plants and then buried by geology such that the plants could not decompose and release the CO2 back to the atmosphere. Burning fossil fuels is a tiny offset to this process, and insures that life can continue to thrive on Earth millions of years after humans are gone. I say tiny, because much of the CO2 taken out of the atmosphere was by corals and other things that created rock from it, and that CO2 will never return to the atmosphere. Eventually, all atmospheric CO2 will be gone. So let’s burn fossil fuels and push that date further into the future.

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