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I’ve been wondering the same thing for a long time……
In the mean time, not a word about anything that even resembles real pollution.
Remember when it was all about clean water, re-cycling, pesticides in food, fluoride, etc
I’m wondering too.
First Global Warming.
Then they realized that is is getting cooler and they called it Climate Change.
If it is true that we get into a little ice age, which is possible, than they will defend it until we are all up to the neck trapped in ice and snow.
We will starve as all fields that can be used will be used for fuel and not for food.
Don’t worry, Juergen.
When the ice age comes they will blame that on global warming too.
Astrology is still with us … the answer ie NEVER. Too much money in it.
Astrology is not a religion!! Astrology is not a science! However it could be placed in the same context as “Soft Sciences”. I researched that subject some 40 years ago and have not changed my opinion since. I remain neutral on the subject as I try to on the subject of some other practices that do not negatively affect the social structure.
The Chicken Little Brigade is a religious belief in the hazards of human habitation on the “Glorious Earth” and how we should strive to live in “Harmony” with Nature when there is NO harmony in nature as nature is overcoming extremes and surviving conflicts!
The current AGW, Climate Change, Human Induced Pollutants are just the current manifestations and are in the process of being replaced even now by the next “Best” excuse to modify human behavior!
Although there are those who promote because of the money involved it is still just the latest fad of the faithful being played to different advantages by opposing groups.
I doubt they’ll ever drop it.
Wherever the temperature goes, alarmists will blame it on humans. If it remains static, they’ll point to everyday extreme events and claim they’re “unprecedented”. If cooling occurs, they’ll find a way to blame that on humans, as they tried to 40 years ago.
Scientology is still around…. and the Moonies too I think. If Jim Jones hadn’t poisoned all of his, they’d probably be doing something. Oh, yeah, that’s what the warmers wanna do too…. population control, choke off all resources…. huh. You’d almost think that they’re similar or something….
The People’s Temple is still around! Still based in California and divided into separate groups each claiming to be following the founding principles. Just like most religions !
The UN wants 2% of all nations GDP. Figure out the amount of money at stake and my bet is they will never stop going after the money even if the temperatures drop 1C degree.
The UN, the WB, ADB, EU, etc., they all want a piece of our money. In poorer country like the Philippines for instance, outstanding climate loans (adaptation and mitigation already at $1.08 B, excluding past climate loans that have been paid. Then they’re negotiation another $1B renewable energy loans, all to “save the planet”, http://funwithgovernment.blogspot.com/2011/02/energy-rationing-and-climate-alarmism.html
Maybe if you morons could come up with some decent facts to show it needs to die… It would.. Until then.. Live with it…
The temperature in 50 years will be -37 Kelvin
lol
JoeW says:
February 21, 2011 at 3:07 am
some decent facts
There are no ‘facts’ that support the manmade global warming alarm ‘science’. You are requiring people to disprove something that has never been proven.
Also, if ClimateGate has not changed your attitude toward ‘global warming’, JoeW, then I fear you will not change even if the world was experiencing another Little Ice Age.
Yeah, the support is based on evidence.. That’s how science works sometimes. But aside from that, the theory for GW at least has evidence… What evidence is there that it’s natural? And don’t forget to pick something that at least correlates to therecent rise in temps..
It’s not up to anyone to prove it is natural. It’s up to you to prove it isn’t. Let’s keep the shoe on the right foot.
So present your evidence.
JoeW says:
February 21, 2011 at 4:49 am
Yeah, the support is based on evidence..
Ok. Present the evidence.
@Joe moron…….uhmmm IDK…….how ’bout several thousand years of history. The earth has warmed and cooled as far back as man can see. So, we’re going through another warming phase…..so what? That a “decent” enough fact for you? What “evidence” are you referring to that alarmist have? They don’t have evidence, they have wet pants. Here’s another couple of facts. The earth has continued to emit more CO2 into the atmosphere, but there hasn’t been any warming for over a decade. Here’s another fact for you. The intensity and frequency of weather events have not increased with the warming. More fun facts, the arctic ice had a record low in 2007. According to the alarmists, this was supposed to have a spiraling/tipping point effect because of the decrease in albedo……didn’t happen. More fun facts……the temp increases correlate better to the rise in U.S. postage than CO2. Sea level rise…….nope not increasing at any measurable rate. You see, none of the doom and gloom predicted has happened. The theory is falsified.
This is the problem with science education today, these guys don’t understand the scietific method.
Decent facts? Haven’t you been reading the literally hundreds of news clippings Steve has produced demonstrating that the current climate is nothing but very very ordinary. (or did you notice? maybe that’s what got you so upset you naughty naughty Joe you)
Morons? Seems to me a moron would be very gullible, very easy to lead and very easy parted with his (government pension) money. that would be you.
[ahhh I see why you’re upset now, you just realised you’ve been fooled, lied to and mislead. You’ve realised you’re a moron]
It’s OK Joe, come over to the dark side, we’ll de-moron you quick smart.
But you’ll have to give up whatever public purse teat you’re on.
Hey.. If it’s government politics and people “takin your money” that you worried about, then start a blog about politics and attack that angle… And what exactly are the posts about weather supposed to prove?? You really question why deniers have such a bad rep??
lol, what are posts about weather suppose to prove? Which ones? The ones that show historic catastrophes before all of the CO2 increase? Or the postings of current weather that contradicts the alarmist’s prognostications and confirms that others demonstrate a better knowledge on long term weather forecasting than climatologists? It’s simply more falsification of the alarmism.
CAGW = “government politics and people takin our money.” More they’re increasing the cost of living. In poorer nations, they’re policies actually starve people to death. But hey, that’s the price we gotta pay because we’re really scared of a 0.7 degree rise in temps. Seven tenths of a degree. People were killed because there thermometer rose an imperceptible amount. How’s that for an indecent fact.
JoeW all responses to your post have challenged you to provide evidence. All you have done is to make me think that the moron reference was a self appraisal. If you want to do science let have at it.
Firstly tell us why you have arrived at the conclusion that the globe is warming and it is primarily caused by CO2 and that humans are the majority cause of CO2 increase. Please science only – no appeals to authority. Eagerly awaiting.
We don’t have to come up with any facts. The onus is on those who make scientific claims to come up with the evidence. In the meantime please look at some pieces of evidence and explain just how each claim can be upheld?
Warmer Northern Hemisphere winters
Colder Northern Hemisphere winters
Earth’s rotation to slow down
Earth’s rotation to speed up
North Atlantic Ocean has become less salty
North Atlantic Ocean has become more salty
Avalanches may increase
Avalanches may decrease
Plants move uphill
Plants move downhill
Bird migrations longer
Bird migrations shorter
Monsoons to become drier in India
Monsoons to become wetter in India
Plankton blooms
Plankton decline
Reindeer thrive
Reindeer decline
Winds speed up [USA]
Winds slow down [USA]
Less snow in Great Lakes
More snow in Great Lakes
Gulf stream slows down
Gulf stream has not slowed down
San Francisco more foggy
San Francisco less foggy
Less winter snow for UK
More winter snow for UK
Excellent post… but you made JoeW go cry in the corner and he’ll be to afraid to post again.
Is it not dead? they must have last stand selected as one of their perks!
Over the short term they will latch onto the 60 year cycle and contend that the drop is just temporary and things will be even worse in the long run.
I think it is dying a slow death. More and more people are questioning the basic tenets of the religion. Unfortunately, believers have gained so much political power and money, they can defend their position for much longer. However, the tide has definitely turned. Just think, in two years we have gone from a House of Representatives that passed Cap & Tax legislation, to one that just voted to deny EPA the funding to impose Cap & Tax through regulation. Now we have to change the composition of Senate (we could use nore Inhofe), and the White House.
This will not go away in an instant, it will very slowly drift away.
1st the public will walk away from it (they are)
2nd the pollies will walk away from it (they are)
3rd the MSM will drift away from it and sack their enviro reporters (beginning to happen)
4th the decent scientists will walk away from it (they are, very slowly)
5th the rusted on crooked scientists will hang on for dear life, slowly drift off into irrelevancy and go to their death bed still clinging on (can’t wait for that one)
Whatever the real temperature is, they will still try to claim it’s the warmest year on record. And they will have their true believers, even if they are buried in snow.
If not the hottest year ever they’ll say the hottest decade ever.
“….We’re scanning this small residue for small for changes and speaking of them as though they were ominous signs of something or other……”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym_5wmJdwvM
http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2011/02/recent-drop-in-sea-surface-temperatures.html
Anyone care to speculate how that will affect North America?? Holy smokes!
I know what the AGW’s do with that.
Bend it, shape it, anyway you want => result: warming
I have asked many warmist the same question. I always get the same answer back,”it is hap’ng now and it will get worse.” In my opinion it will never die, icebergs could be floating off the florida coast and they would say “it is only weather, dont you know the difference, it is hot in Greenland.”
The therory of Global Warming/Climate Change/Thermo-destruction/ irritable climate syndrome/et al. is like a Zombie.
A zombie is not much of a threat, more like a pain in the ass. (if you can walk fast)
you cant explain the science to a Zombie (he doesnt care)
no matter how many body blows you give to a zombie, he will just get up again
zombies are single minded (they dont care about GDP, or stupid jobs)
no matter how nice you are, Zombies still stink up the place
so until the global temp drops to -150K, ( I know it is not possible, but at 0.5k, they will still say it is just weather, the warming is in the pipeline)
F n Zombies
I always find the switch from climate to weather fascinating. We can tease trends from a chaotic system averages. We tell everyone that looking at smaller time scales is just arguing weather. Then we go back and start looking at weather (Arctic melting) to prove our point.
And when Steve does that tomake fun we get “maroons” to come in and lecture about the climate.
They’ll drop it when people use C rather than 18th F 😉
Andy
I wish it was that simple, Andy.
BTW, I thought steve may have fun with this:
http://downloads.globalchange.gov/usimpacts/pdfs/climate-impacts-report.pdf
When the cows don’t come home?
Brrrr – Denmark down to -15,9C this weekend
http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/FD47D493-FF5D-4758-AD1B-F90805E96625/2593466/KOLDFEBRUAR1.JPG
It will be dropped only when they have bled us dry of any money we still have left, any dignity we still have left, when all of our children are on the psychiatric couch as they have been indoctrinated to believe their parents are responsible for destroying the planet, or more likely taken into care. When the majority of countries are living a boring, controlled, politically correct, risk free life. When people are not fat as they cannot afford to eat,(apart from politicians and the elites) when people do not use alcohol as it is too expensive to produce (no one can afford it, apart from politicians and the elites), when absolutely no one smokes (apart from politicians and the elites), and a lot of people have died as they cannot afford their energy bills to heat their homes (apart from politicians and the elites) and we all live in caves as our houses have been repossessed (apart from politicians and elites). Because what they know and what we never take on board is that money is just printed paper, nothing else, that is why they can go trillions in debt, it means nothing, we are being duped, defrauded, manipulated, blackmailed, stolen from, lied to, leading to a one world currency and one world government. The acceptance of the smoking ban was the start of it ‘let’s see how far they will accept control’, the end is worse, and I do not smoke!!
“How long does it take for a really useless religion to die? ”
2000 years and still counting.
“How long does it take for a really useless religion to die? ”
If it is a religion, then how can it be taught in US schools and there be Federal funding for it? How about taking it to court and asking for prohibition of funding of this religion? If models are discounted, there is very little science to support the AGW concepts. It can be demonstrated that carbon dioxide captures infrared radiation over specific wavelengths, and measurements of infrared radiation has shown some variation over time, but the impacts on climate cannot be detected.
They will never stop. They will claim that AGW predicted this winter’s cold and snow, and after the current La Nina runs its course and temperatures recover, they will say “See, it’s global warming, it’s unequivocal and the ‘science is settled.'”
When the developed world has been overtaken by China, India and the rest who are ignoring this nonsense.