I can’t see the layers in any software on my computer (typical Adobe nonsense) but here is a video.
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7oi2qfxlY]
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Looks like you were targeted for the “right of use” scam. The video has been pulled.
But I’ve seen one of these videos showing the layers. On NRO, there was a discussion where the blogger noted that Adobe (or whatever the software) actually used the layering methodology itself – suggesting it wasn’t proof of tampering.
But the background, and the serial number issue you showed yesterday (anti aliased), don’t fit the story that “The software did it!”
Hmm, “This video has been removed by the user.”
http://www.infowars.com/video-proof-obama-birth-certificate-a-fraud/
Here is another video, it’s a fraud all right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk
If what they say in this video is true then they need to make a complete case for it and show it on tv. But I don’t know the people in this video and how reputable they are.
this is so stupid…..
Either our whitehouse is so stupid they can’t even do this right….
…or they are trying to pull something
That’s the only two choices, and both bad.
Do not attribute to malice that which can more easily be attributed to stupidity.
I go for the former.
me too…………
From the NRO:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265910/weird-thing-about-obamas-birth-certificate-kevin-d-williamson
And don’t forget that there are 7 deadly sins and 7 layers in the ISO network stack model!
And 7 days of the week, 7 wonders of the ancient world, Dante’s 7 layers of hell, etc. 7 is a divine number and we know who the messiah is.
Dante describes, however, nine circles of Hell.
Plus a vestibule!
Deadman – DOH!
Sorry, Purgatorio had 7. It has only been 40 years since I read the trilogy (but it was and is a great epic!).
Yeah, but the NRO actually did this little thing called an experiment. You know what those are right? One of their bloggers scanned an image, conveted it to an optimized PDF and opened it in Adobe Illustrator. Guess what? It had layers.
When I opened it the Whitehouse PDF in Photoshop it had a base layer which consisted of the background and the rest of the document was in another layer(s) which was not stored as image data. Pretty much what NRO found. Several commenters on that thread (which was linked to in one of Steve’s post immediately below this one) pointed out that this is a known technique (patented by ATT) for compressing images. He even tried it a second time and got the same results.
This pretty much cinched it for me. At this point I am quite sure that the layers were created by software during the conversion of the scan to a PDF and the unpacking of those automatically created layers by Adobe Illustrator.
If this man in the video is a photoshop expert why didn’t he immediately say what you are saying?
It might be because he is an expert on how to use Photoshop, but that he has not idea of the how the internals of Photoshop work.
I know how to use Photoshop to improve my photos (I am a hobbiest photographer). One thing I do know, is that in order to save an image in Photoshop which is “web friendly” you have to flatten it. Native Photoshop images are not web displayable by any web browser in existence.
The rather simple experiment which the NRO performed makes it clear that this is more likely what is being observed by the conspiracy “experts” rather than some grand conspiracy. So, here is my guess as to what happened:
1) The original document is scanned.
2) Transparency is added to the background so that the safety paper is visible through the document. This is to prevent forgery.
3) The document is printed on the same safety paper that the State of Hawaii uses for official certified copies of the birth certificate.
4) The certification stamp and date stamp are added at the bottom of the printed document. Note the date that the document was certified.
5) Printed document is turned over to a legal representative of Obama.
6) Document is flown back to DC.
7) Document is scanned and turned into a PDF.
8) Idiot, who is not familiar with the internals of PDF document structure opens it in Adobe Illustrator and finds layers! Of course these layers are due to the scan -> PDF conversion, but let’s just ignore it.
The paper needs to be examined. I can make a perfectly good digital forgery of that document in a matter of minutes.
The most powerful man in America is unable to show us the paper document.
Steve,
Then do it. Show us your forgery and remember, you don’t get to see what his original actually looked like. And you have to make it pass inspection by officials of the Hawaii State Department of Health.
Have fun.
Let’s just suppose:: if the document is fake wouldn’t a way to cover it up be to put it trough this pdf process intentionally before posting it on the White House web site so they could later say the layers are from it being on a pdf? They would still need to show the actual document to end this new controversies. To be quite frank, since they haven’t shown an original document it should leave one to be suspicious. It seems below the highest office in the United States to not have shown the original. If this document is fake may the doubts about it become public.
Oh, come even if they could should the original (and they can’t, the original is held in the archives of the Hawaii Department of Public Health and must remain there, you know chain of evidence and all that?) people like you would still claim it was a fake. Obama or his legal representative (or his wife or children) can see it. So can employees of the Hawaii Department of Public Health.
Of course the former director (under a Republican administration) of the Hawaii Department of Public Health has already stated (at least three times!) that she has seen the original certificate.
Give me a break…
What a load of crap.
Is NRO a computer graphics company? Just a silly question.
;O)
No they are just a Republican blog. But somebody thought to do a simple experiment and showed a simple clean explanation for what is being observed.
That’s National Review Online. The blog is “The Corner”. Us liberals make fun of it all the time.