Releasing a digitally processed, layered image was an incredibly stupid thing to do.
Any digital image is grossly inadequate, but they should have at a minimum released a raw image along with the “adjusted” version.
Disrupting the Borg is expensive and time consuming!
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Steve,
You are really cracking me up. I never knew on top of being a leading expert on statistics, fluid dynamics, astrophysics, biochemistry, atmospheric science, Dendrochronology, paleoclimate modeling, satellite data analysis. You are also a leading expert on document fraud.
I do image processing for a living.
well then the thousands of other image processors not on the Gore/Soros payroll should be jamming the internet with their confirmation of this blatant forgery.
Or are you down with the bait-the-birthers-into-a-feeding-frenzy-and-then-show-the-actual-paper-version-right-as-they-smell-victory scenario?
A digitally altered image makes it impossible to verify.
Tony Duncan says:
April 29, 2011 at 5:09 am
Or are you down with the bait-the-birthers-into-a-feeding-frenzy-and-then-show-the-actual-paper-version-right-as-they-smell-victory scenario?
Waiting 2 1/2 years is what created the feeding frenzy, not the image. Can you understand that Tony? No, you can’t. You’ll just mock at that and conclude something else.
Releasing a digitally processed, layered image was an incredibly stupid thing to do.
I don’t give them credit for being smart in the first place.
I am wondering if they released a layered image intentionally as an escape hatch of excuse for why it looks altered.
They’ve only created situation where showing the original paper document will be the only way to end the controversies. But if they ever do release the paper document they better give it to document experts in front of cameras and let them scrutinize it as the world watches.
That way all arguments can come to an end—isn’t that right Tony Duncan.
Amino,
you underestimate the mind of the fanatic. Numerous studies have shown that no matter how disproven their conspiracies are they always manage to rationalize SOMETHING to keep on going. they usually lose the less insane followers, but they do NOT let any facts get in the way of what they know the truth is. Many instances of apocalyptic cults passing deadlines for the end of the world maintained absolute belief that there was some valid reason that kept it from happening.
You’re right, Barack Obama made every effort to be transparent and all these doubts are from nutters. Your fanatic hypothesis is brilliant.
Three years late he produces a digitally altered document – and mindless sheep are supposed to accept that at face value. Nearly as stupid as believing that CO2 will destroy the planet.
Tony Duncan says:
April 29, 2011 at 5:28 am
Amino,
you underestimate the mind of the fanatic.
I do?
Well, one thing you can bet on is I don’t overestimate your mind.
Actually he supplied the birth certificate he was provided over 2 years ago. and his birth was registered and noted in the two relevant newspapers. And there is no evidence that he was born anywhere else
I have been reading that the state of Hawaii only gives out electronic copies, since 2001, and before that only photocopies. Funny that no one mentioned that here.
A photocopy would be much better evidence.
Steve,
Exactly WHY Obama waited until 2008 to run for president.
He could have won in ’92 against Bush SR.at age 32, but people would have noticed the penned in 5 on the white-out over the 6 on the birthdate.
Obama was not ready to be president in 2008.
Steve right again
after the biggest finical meltdown in modern times Obama immediately panicked and the stock market has plunged to under 3,000. unemployment is at a near record 25%. Texas has seceded, and Chinese troop patrol the business areas of all large cities in order to protect their investment, from the hordes of starving american workers displaced by his decision to turn over much of American industry to them in exchange for political protection from American wrath at his incompetence. Wow that was a long sentence
Hopefully we can survive another 18 months of this buffoon.
Again, it’s odd that the most powerful man in America cannot show the original paper document.
Look how transparent the most transparent President ever is:
Valerie Jarrett: Obama Not Releasing College Records
video at link
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/04/28/valerie_jarrett_to_trump_nonsense_to_ask_for_obamas_college_records.html
Trump is asking they be released. Now starts the journey into the second step of the fun! Will Obama lose again and Trump win? I’ll put odds on Trump!!!
After all EVERY president since Washington has released his college records. The important thing would of course be the tape recordings and transcripts of every meeting he had with Bill Ayers detailing the destruction of America once he becomes president. I would be most interested in how they managed to manipulate Clinton and Bush into deregulating the financial services sector to create the largest meltdown in 70 years, so republicans would get to blame the successor for a bad economy.
Why would anyone care if a presidential candidate hangs out with people who hate America? Just a bunch of racists.
Exactly Steve,
that is why nothing less than the actual recordings. verified by you to be fraudulent and the transcripts, again verified you to be fraudulent are an absolute minimum for Obama to retina his authority as president.
After all no one can PROVE that Obama and Ayers did not spend 8 hours every night plotting the takeover of the country. I mean look at Sasha’s nose. it is NOTHING like Obama’s obviously he never slept with Michelle. Because we all know that those people can’t stop themselves. Especially since, in the dark, he could pretend she was white!
Silly me. I had this ridiculous = idea that the President shouldn’t hang out with people who hate the US.
Sure, the most transparent President ever, which is what he said he would be, doesn’t have to even be as transparent as previous Presidents, let alone more. You’ll be on his side about that for sure!
And thanks for diverting from the topic by bringing up Bill Ayers, George Bush, and Bill Clinton.
Better look out, Trump wants to see the grades. Another fun chapter as we watch the most transparent President ever refuse, over and over, to show them.
Just what I want to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Watch how happy I will be in the coming days. And please, by all means, continue to justify him not releasing them so as to add to the fun!!! Don’t let me down!
Ya, Bill Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood. Nothing to see there folks. Move along.
I can hear it now,”Trump, he made me hold onto the birth certificate because he wanted to make me, the most transparent President ever, look bad and himself look good! Now, he’s going even farther! He’s making me not release my grades so I can look even worse and he can look even better! What a racists!”
Looks like the sore losers over Trump winning are going nutter.
Watch for the nuttiness starting at 2:50
“Are you go let me speak?”, “NO!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3W5NTAAAo
What an asshole.
And he looks forward to Barney Frank coming on.
Hmmm
she did not answer the question he asked her at least 10 times.
But Steve, calling her an asshole is rather harsh don’t you think?
I think you are having gender confusion.
Tony
If George Bush had started his political career at the house of a man that bombed the Pentagon and killed people would you say the same things about him as you say about Obama?
Which one is the crazy person?
did you see his other nuttiness?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXrTul_w-So
The more strident these folks get over this – and these MSNBC commenters are getting whipped out of shape – the more one wonders why?
Plus now they are playing the race card full tilt. I assume that was always the plan when they installed this puppet.
So much we don’t know about Barry. And everything we do know, from his totally disfunctional childhood to his Commie mentor to his Rev Wright worship makes me think this is a very bad puppet. Its all been downhill for America since he arrived.
It looks like he’s Trump puppet now and will end up doing everything Trump wants him too. Showing the birth certificate is just the beginning. At some point it will dawn on President Obama that he will have to show his grades in order to keep his word about being transparent. If he doesn’t he will bring even more disappointment to the people that voted for him, especially the youngest ones. That transparency promise leaves him with nowhere to turn except to release them. He will only hurt himself more and more as he delays. 🙂 It should be so much fun to watch!
This is really enlightening Steve,
I know understand much better how this all ties in together. I Pity those fools that live in the reality based universe and can’t just imagine the reality that makes them feel special. the holders of the truth that the rest of humanity refuses to see.
Do you guys have special handshakes?
Yup since barry was president the country has just erupted into anarchy, and everything is so much worse in every way. Not like under Bush. who started two wars staffed the government with incompetent bureaucrats from christian colleges, and saved us from terrorist attacks, natural disasters, and financial implosion. Everyone just pines for those Bush days.
At least Bush went through the process of getting Congressional approval first before he went to war. He didn’t act unilaterally like Obama did in Libya.
And by the way, more soldiers have died in Afghanistan in the 2 years since Obama has been President than did in the entire 8 years Bush was President.
Amino
Of course. Obama has the soldiers go out and apologize to the taliban, without any guns, so that they will see americans mean them no harm. Eventually they will get tired of killing innocent american soldiers who mean no one any harm in their country.
this may be hard for you to believe but I am not a big supporter of escalating the war in Afghanistan. Never really have been.
If Obama had just been honest in his campaign pledge. Like Bush was saying the US had no business nation building. We would be in a much better place.
It’s the Obama Administration policy of friendly engagement that is getting those soldiers killed. Look things up before talking.
Of course.
Obama has told the military to change their tactics and procedures to accommodate more casualties. Does friendly engagement include playing bridge with the enemy?
Because clearly Bush’s policy of Screw everyone else just had america haters scared to death of fighting us at all. No resistance in iraq when he said “bring it on”. And then when Bush got soft and told those american murderous Sunnis that we could be friend s and even paid the people that had murdered americans. that is when things got bad in iraq. Before then it had been flowers and chocolate for american in Iraq. then Obama got in and all of the sudden, they knew they could get away with killing US soldiers, so all those bad guys went to Afghanistan and started attacking US troops for no reason except that Obama was a socialist namely pamby.
Obama’s incompetence is Bush’s fault.
One thing Obama has to hope for is that the doubts about his SSN don’t balloon in the media. His image is already damage enough.
Bush’s grandfather was a supporter of Hitler. Literally, not just in your imagination.
there are large periods of Bush’s life that are not well documented.
You of course insisted on absolute proof that Bush was not AWOL from the military. Since there was actually testimony and documented evidence that at least implied that
And you have insisted on an accurate accounting of the billions missing in Ieaq and exactly what Cheney knew about Plfaume, and the missing 5 million emails, and the destroyed ohio ballots and the allegation fo Cheney being inebriated when he shot his friend, and the Enron connection. and the Bin laden connection. and the fabrication of the Niger uranium document, and the reliance on curveball when German intelligence told them he was not reliable and the Powell talk at the UN where every thing was a lie, and the. Actually I do NOt have 4 hours to try to finish this list. But clearly you were… Oh can;t forget the torture, and wiretapping . but I do have to get to sleep So clearly you demanded that there be a full and complete explanation of overtone of these things in the last administration
Bush and Hitler, there you go Tony.
You better get some sleep. This is too much for you.
Amino
form fox nes. that liberal anti bush propaganda arm of the dems
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html
resident Bush’s grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler’s rise to power, government documents show.
Now that sounds at least as damning as Obama’s ties to Ayers.
Can you prove that Prescott was not plotting with Hitler to sabotage the country? He financially supporter a supporter of Hitler, when Hitler was in power. Obama didn’t know Ayers either in the weather underground days or even in prison with his wife. Is there ANY evidence Obama and Ayers discussed anything anti american ever? Do you have a clue what Ayers actually does now and did when he knew Ayers?
But this is all just very enlightening on how the right paranoia reinvents itself and justifies ignoring reality.
Tony Duncan says:
April 29, 2011 at 6:58 am
“Bush’s grandfather was a supporter of Hitler. Literally, not just in your imagination.”
True Tony. But you make that sound as though it was some rare exception. The whole Wall Street (actually called the Rothchilds Fed Inc. if you prefer) financed the Nazis. How do you think they built up their military so fast during the so called Great Depression?
The King of England who had to abdicate loved Hitler. So did Henry Ford. And former Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau.
And of course, the Nazis were real ‘environmentalists.’
Now let’s take a good look at Obama’s father. LOL.
How about his mother? LOL.
Al,
Now you see how ridiculous it is to tar Obama with this nonsense.
Glad to be of service
Tony
Obama is supporting Al Qiada fighters in Libya. How unbelievable is that? You don’t care. Obama is different, right?
Amino,
I almost had liquid shoot out of my nose with that one. Al Qaeda fighters being supported by Obama! wow. So he is managing to funnel support to JUST the Al Qaida fighters so that they will take over. I imagine you must have been furious at Bush for attacking iraq, where there were NO Al Qaida fighters and he managed to recruit thousands to kill American soldiers.
And such NICE dictators, Saddam And Qaddafi. Why would any freedom loving person want to see them lose power, when the evil Al Qaida will take over. But Obama is probably hoping thy take over in time for the election, because Bush won in 2004 when Al Qaida was really gaining steam in iraq. If it workload for Bush it should work for Obama!
I think Bush is a descendant of those underground lizard people too. (not kidding, there really is a nutty story about that)
Did Hitler breast feed W?
Hitler WAS pretty kinky. But he died before getting the opportunity.
Tony – WTF? – you claim that former President Bush’s grandfather is alleged to have been a supporter 50+ years ago of Hitler when comparing our current POTUS Obama who held as his mentor a Black Supremest Minister, whom he idolized in his book and worshiped with his family at his church instilling racial hate through religion into his children.
Tony, perhaps you have heard of “sins of the father” or have looked at the US constitution and know that in America “Corruption of Blood” is something that we just don’t hold as true. A man cannot choose his ancestors or relatives but he certainly can choose his friends and mentors. Unlike previous Democrat members of congress, who freely joined the infamous Democrat Ku Klux Klan, or our current POTUS, who was a member of a Black Supremest Church Congregation in Crook County Illinois; former President George Bush(who pissed me off to no end…) didn’t have the same baggage to carry.
Paul,
Glad to see that you look at things in an unbiased way. “Black supremacist church”? Instilled racial hatred? It wouldn’t be that you get your information from Glenn Beck would it? Or Dick Morris, foaming at the mouth? You are mistaken. Obama was not part of the nation of Islam. He worshipped in a Christian Church, and as far as I know the pastor never made any claims of Black superiority. I think we would have heard about that.
And I made no allegation. I posted an article form FOX news that said a bank of which Bush was involved with was shut down by the US for financing Nazi supporters. basic historical fact.
It is also a fact that Bush chose friends like Cheney, Ken Lay, Rumsfeld and numerous others that lied and undermined the constitution and began a war based on those lies and a complete manipulation of intelligence to support that war. Soemthing that has not been done to that degree since Hitler and Stalin’s fantasies. (plenty have started wars based on lies but none ave been so effective and comprehensive in their propaganda since Stalin and Hitler as the Bush Admin was).
Being no great fan of Obama, I have to conclude that his baggage is at least an order of magnitude less than the previous president and rather comparable to almost every other president in history.
I used the Prescott Bush incident to show how ludicrous the accusations against Obama are. Obama has done nothing that would indicate he was in any way influenced by Ayers views.
You are a mindless clone Tony.
Uh-oh,
President Barack Obama’s weekly approval rating remained at its all-time low for the second straight week
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-s-approval-remains-all-time-low-se
I wonder what Trump’s approval rating is?
Look at the continual flow of comments at Facebook about Obama, more appearing every few seconds
http://www.facebook.com/search.php?q=Obama&init=quick&tas=0.9023854695260525&type=eposts
The McDonalds job President:
“75,000 Applied for 2,000 Local McJobs”
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/75000-Applied-for-2000-Available-McJobs–120952429.html?dr
When America voted Obama there were ‘hoping’ to ‘change’ where they work and end up with a job at McDonald’s. Meanwhile he’s yukking it up on Oprah.
Amino,
Yup BEFORE Obama took office, job growth was doing just fine, and as SOON as Obama’s policies hit, unemployment skyrocketed!
Well, almost, let me help with the wording…..
“Before Democrats took control of both houses, job growth was doing just fine. As soon as democratic policies hit, unemployment skyrocketed!”
http://randfishkin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/unemployment-rate.gif
There, I fixed it! YW! 🙂
I suppose I should have added, there’s plenty of blame to go around for the madness we’re presently going through. The fact is, regardless of who gets the blame, this is the real urgent problem the U.S. faces. The sad thing is, even if McDonald’s was able to grant the wishes of 75,000 residents and give them jobs, the jobs wouldn’t be enough to support these people. The pay wouldn’t even make the rent payment.
We need to start drilling our own oil. We need to quit bothering with different ways to generate electricity and start generating electricity as much and as cheap as we can. We need to start mandating products be made in the U.S.
Our people need jobs and they need jobs that will pay an affordable wage.
SUYTS,
I agree it is an urgent problem. But the solution is not electricity. the solution is productivity. Plenty of evidence, and pretty much everyone knows the immense inefficiencies in industry and government. We all see it every day. Conservation is the most immediate way to cut costs, and then investing in policies that raise productivity, over the long term. Productivity has to come from policies that ENCOURAGE people to work more effectively. That doe not mean firing people and forcing others to work more to compensate.
Tony, I think we’re in a general agreement. However, I believe efficiency is easily obtained, all we have to do is let businesses achieve it on their own. We don’t have to encourage businesses to conserve, they will do that for its own merit. We just have to stay out of the way. I mentioned electricity because the easiest way to encourage growth and production is to keep production costs as low as possible. The same goes too with transportation costs. Keep them as low as possible, then watch them go!
This doesn’t even address the job growth that would be made if we simply started producing energy and fuel on our own. Kansas is a great study of this inanity. A power company wants to build a coal plant in western Kansas that would supply energy for parts of Kansas, Colo. and OK. Sunflower(the company) has been trying to get this done for years. It has been continually blocked despite overwhelming support of the people.
A company has 2.8 billion dollars sitting around. They’re trying to use it to provide cheap energy to people and businesses. The infrastructure would necessarily be upgraded to facilitate the plant. The construction jobs alone would greatly benefit the area.
Instead, we’re face planting ourselves. We’re saying no to jobs, no to growth, no to cheap energy, no to infrastructure upgrade, and no to our future. We’re face planting ourselves……. http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/dontknockyourselfoutp1.gif
http://www.gpace.org/news/sierra-club-cheered-by-ruling-in-kansas-coal-fight/
Does pie in the sky taste better, Tony?
I always find it funny to hear believers say that deniers are known to never stop denying even when given the proof.
Now with the document, it is disturbing to see consecutive characters to be so different after the data processing. It must be a very bad software to optimize a document into such a mess.
Obama, in his book, admitted he wasn’t a very good student and mentioned his drinking and doping. However he made it all the way to Haaarrrvarrd!
So I wonder how he kept getting accepted at those schools………. just wondering.
We need to see the grades to confirm which side is right.