Fossil fuels are what makes our modern lifestyle possible. Life was very short and completely sucked for most people before the days of fossil fuels.
I would be embarrassed to be associated with Chevy Volt, or Solyndra or a wind farm that kills thousands of Golden Eagles.
So you think the lives of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and John Adams “completely sucked?”
Interesting. I wonder, then, what you think of their work.
Huhh?! Just because somebody lived before mankind figured out how to harvest paleosolar energy (oil, coal, natch’ril gassss) and had to use contemporary solar fuel (wood, cow chips, peat) doesn’t mean SQUAT.
Clearly, folks were capable of intelligent thought before we learned how to harvest Earth’s bounty of fossil fuels
Thank God Jefferson, Washington, Adams, Paine, Madison, and others didn’t wait around on their butts suckin’ up gummint welfare waiting for someone else to innovate and improve life for all.
Of course, all people in the 1700s had lives much like Washington, Jefferson, and Adams.
David, you know very well that life expectancy was very short in those times. The larger part of life was confined to daylight hours, and much work had to be done to even have the simplest of things of which we take for granted today.
Obviously I know this. And I also know that thoughtless statements like “Life was very short and completely sucked for most people before the days of fossil fuels” are asinine — completely irrelevant to the issues at hand. But typical of the idiocy Goddard dishes out on an hourly basis.
LMAO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaWvVFERVA
I don’t think the lives of environmentalists such as Algore, Richard Branson, Larry Page & Paul Allen suck either. It should be noted that they are all heavy users of fossil fuel and use very little eco-flubber or pixie dust. Are we speaking of the wealthiest individuals of the past and the hypocrites of the present or is the real focus on the 1.5 billion people living in poverty without electricity, running water and sanitation?
But Steve Goddard said, “Life was very short and completely sucked for most people before the days of fossil fuels.”
Except, I guess, for the very rich.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson
Isn’t this the guy who fucked one (at least) of his slaves?
I think you are confusing Jefferson with Barack Sr. – who got one of his white slaves pregnant.
I think you’re a liar — Sally Hemings was of mixed race, and, as a slave, completely verboten. But what that has to do with an enhanced greenhouse effect from modern fossil fuels is a product only of your demented mind.
Are you really sure you’re not dead?
Lol, that’s funny David, you posted completely irrelevant comments and then ask Steve about relevance?
Try this out…… any discussion of throttling our modern fossil fuel use to solve an imaginary problem should be calculated with a cost benefit analysis. Which alarmists are much chagrin to do. The facts are that there is no viable replacement for our fossil fuels. To throttle our use means that we will throttle our economies and our quality of life.
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soyts: If you think the issue is “imaginary,” you clearly don’t understand freshman physics.
So you are the joke.
Fascinating David. I understood my freshman physics quite well. Probably better than a self styled journalist. A bit crabby today….. monthly probs?
Tell me, what new breed of CO2 has suddenly started to absorb IR at the frequencies where most of earth’s heat escapes?
What part of self-correcting response mechanisms do you not understand?
Where and how was it determined that even if this fantasy is true that it we wouldn’t benefit from warming….. like human civilization, throughout history, always has?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2syzxPND8QE
Have you been smoking something? You sound paranoid and incoherent.
David, David, David … … …
You said “But Steve Goddard said, “Life was very short and completely sucked for most people before the days of fossil fuels. Except, I guess, for the very rich.”
Before the Days of Fossil Fuels, the Rich, the Very Rich, the Average, the Poor, and [yes] the Very Poor all lived lives that sucked. No heat, no light, no power, … … Diddle Frikkin Squat.
So what’s your point, David? Dave? Davie? Yo, D-Man???
“Powerless, miserable misery shared by all is better than intellegent development of natural resources by those with the wit and wisdom to do so?”
If you answer “yes”, you are beneath pathetic
Jim: I have no idea what you are trying to say. Learn how to write.
Funny, you had no problem understanding him earlier!
What kind of intellect fails to understand how one set of words can be intelligible, while another isn’t?
Gee, David, learn to read.
As I said, prior to the discovery of how to use fossil fuels, everybody’s life-style sucked [compared to life today, now that the western world has figured out how to harvest and use the vast, VAST, resources of carbon-based fossil fuels that the Earth has stored away for us].
So if you think that carbon-based power “sucks”, please go back to the days of burning cow flop for light and heat. They’d love to have you in the sub-Saharan villages where that’s life’s norm.
Do you understand that, D-Boy??
Appearently, it’s you!
Jim: Yes, more energy has made life better. That’s completely obvious.
So what? That doesn’t mean fossil fuels aren’t contributing to an enhanced greenhouse effect. Nor does it mean they shouldn’t be replaced by cleaner energies.
See what suyts said above, or was that over your head too!
Just checked out that Apple bloke’s Facebook … mate, I’d be embarrassed to put up a half picture of me that looked like that ! Matches your foul little mouth … do you eat with that thing ? LOL worm.
He probably bought carbon credits to justify it or something, I don’t know! but that’s how it works, I guess! They pay them selves their own Benefits to give themselves an out of their own BS! That’s whe way it looks, as long as everyone else believes and pays, they get another free ride!
“In November 1998, the influential British magazine “Nature” published an article about a DNA study that had been designed to determined whether there was any truth to the old tales about Jefferson and Sally Hemings. Misleadingly titled ” Jefferson Fathered Slave’s Last Child”, the article claimed that the “simplest and most probable explanations for our molecular findings are that Thomas Jefferson, rather than the Carr brothers ( Jefferson’s nephews and the traditional suspects within the family), was the father of Eston Hemings.” In reality, the study DID NOT PROVE that Thomas Jefferson was the guilty party, but rather that any of more than two dozen Jefferson males could have been the culprit. This fact was conveniently left out of the article, however, and parties with a variety of personal, political, and social agendas gleefully jumped in and proclaimed Jefferson a contemptible hypocrite and much worse…
Once you really start to examine all the facts – especially the ones that are not so well known – you learn about Randolph Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson’s brother, who lived close enough to visit on a regular – and apparently merry – basis. Even Joseph Ellis, the dean of American Jefferson experts, admits that he did not know of Randolph’s existence at the time he wrote his Jefferson opus “American Sphinx’. The obscure Randolph was a long-time widower who was well-known at the time for after-hours reveling in the slave quarters at Monticello…
Other concerned descendants, along with a group of historians and researchers, formed the Thomas Jefferson Heritage Society at that time, which in turn assembled a blue ribbon Scholar’s Commission to reexamine the evidence and the entire issue. The commission consisted of leading experts on Jefferson and his era, all of whom were outstanding in their respective fields and with a wide divergence of opinion on Jefferson and his philosophy. Their credentials can be viewed at tjheritage.org. After a year of study, the Scholar’s Commission concluded that Jefferson was innocent of the sordid charges against him. Of the thirteen members, only one had written a very mild minority report, saying essentially that his innocence could not be fully proven. The entire 500-plus page report can be found at tjheritage.org, along with a number of other informative links…
According to the SC Report (DNA), Randolph was most likely the father of Sally Hemings’ children.”
A British magazine “Nature” wouldn’t stoop so low as to disparage an American Founding Father, the principal author of the United States Declaration of Independence, would they?
Why is David Appell trolling here? If the facts posted here bother him, maybe he needs to confront them.