So when it was colder last year the death rate went down. So Sami Grover is another person making things up. That’s two in a row now and I have only read 2 entries.
Uhmm, your ONS isn’t breaking down the causes of death.
From your report…..”The majority of additional winter deaths are caused by cerebrovascular diseases, ischaemic heart disease and respiratory diseases.” and “Another report released today by ONS points out the complexity of the relationships between mortality, the temperature, and other factors such as the prevalence of influenza in winter and air pollution in summer.”
Cold kills, and as Steven points out, the deaths can be laid at the feet of the warmistas. They’ve caused the cost of heating and fuel to rise.
Another Straw man Steve. There is a difference between promoting something – which hasn’t been adopted to date in the way you claim Monbiot wants and then accusing him of blaming others for the consequences of something he can have no responsibility for.
It would be the same thing as you calling for more cycle tracks but no one creating any because of your advocation, then you being responsible for every accident that occurs on the ones that already exist.
Laz, you’re either being intentionally disingenuous or you don’t read much of what you’re commenting on. Is it your position that G.B. hasn’t erected a bunch of windmills? Or that the cost of the windmills in terms of tax burden and cost of energy isn’t significantly more than what it would be otherwise?
Monboit and the rest of the complicit bunch of Malthusians know very well that because of their advocacy they have raised the cost of energy, increased the tax burden, and lessened the availability of cheap fuel and energy.
Laz, what we are witnessing is their end goal of their means. While their govt. shares responsibility because they too were complicit, Monboit and the rest of the cast can callously look at each other, give the “thumbs up” to each other and state, “mission accomplished.” They were told this would happen. Heck Laz, you were told.
The deaths of these poor people world wide, suffering because they have to choose between food or heat, can be directly laid at the feet of the CAGW advocacy.
This is just another CYA claim by Moon Bat to blame others for the results of what they promoted. This has been mentioned many times in the past. The ECO Whackos have caused regulations to be enacted that resulted in millions of deaths each year since they started with their Gaia crap.
The excess deaths during cold periods can be placed on the shoulders of the Green Movement and the AGW crowd. How does it feel to be part of the group that caused so many deaths, LAZ and TonyD?
“…..sometimes common throughout Europe as far north as the Baltic and northern Russia….
In fact, the most catastrophic epidemic on record anywhere in the world occurred in the Soviet Union in the 1920s, with a peak incidence of 13 million cases per year, and 600,000 deaths. Transmission was high in many parts of Siberia, and there were 30,000 cases and 10,000 deaths due to falciparum infection (the most deadly malaria parasite) in Archangel, close to the Arctic circle. Malaria persisted in many parts of Europe until the advent of DDT.” Professor Paul Reiter, Institut Pasteur
See also Malaria in Finland, Russia and Sweden – 1800–1870 [pdf]
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“A total of 1,803 persons died of malaria in the western parts of Finland and in the south-western archipelago during the years 1751–1773 [23]. Haartman [21] reports severe epidemics in the region of Turku in the years 1774–1777 and the physician F.W. Radloff mentioned that malaria was very common in the Aland Islands in 1795 [39].” Huldén et al – 2005 Malaria Journal
“[Canada] But, in the 1800s, particularly along the Rideau and Cataraqui Rivers, malaria was rampant.” Mysteries of Canada
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“Anopheles atroparvus may have maintained malaria endemicity into the present century in certain coastal localities in southern Sweden. ” Jaenson, Thomas G.T et al – 1986
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“Malaria was once common in marshland communities in central and southern England between 1500 and 1800, before finally disappearing in the early 1900s [8].” Steven W Lindsay et al – 2010
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“The advent of DDT revolutionized malaria control by targeting the home, leading to widespread eradication of the disease from Europe and North America. By 1975, Europe and North America were entirely free of endemic malaria.” AEI
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“From Shakespeare to Defoe: malaria in England in the Little Ice Age.”
“From 1564 to the 1730s the coldest period of the Little Ice Age malaria was an important cause of illness and death in several parts of England. Transmission began to decline only in the 19th century, when the present warming trend was well under way.” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
“The wealth of records in this period confirms that the disease was common at many coastal sites in England and in some parts of Scotland…”
Monbiot needs to be dragged out into the streets and tar n feathered. This is the only action that will give me any satisfaction.
Hold on a minute
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/deathsnr1110.pdf
So when it was colder last year the death rate went down. So Sami Grover is another person making things up. That’s two in a row now and I have only read 2 entries.
Andy
Uhmm, your ONS isn’t breaking down the causes of death.
From your report…..”The majority of additional winter deaths are caused by cerebrovascular diseases, ischaemic heart disease and respiratory diseases.” and “Another report released today by ONS points out the complexity of the relationships between mortality, the temperature, and other factors such as the prevalence of influenza in winter and air pollution in summer.”
Cold kills, and as Steven points out, the deaths can be laid at the feet of the warmistas. They’ve caused the cost of heating and fuel to rise.
Another Straw man Steve. There is a difference between promoting something – which hasn’t been adopted to date in the way you claim Monbiot wants and then accusing him of blaming others for the consequences of something he can have no responsibility for.
It would be the same thing as you calling for more cycle tracks but no one creating any because of your advocation, then you being responsible for every accident that occurs on the ones that already exist.
Laz, you’re either being intentionally disingenuous or you don’t read much of what you’re commenting on. Is it your position that G.B. hasn’t erected a bunch of windmills? Or that the cost of the windmills in terms of tax burden and cost of energy isn’t significantly more than what it would be otherwise?
Monboit and the rest of the complicit bunch of Malthusians know very well that because of their advocacy they have raised the cost of energy, increased the tax burden, and lessened the availability of cheap fuel and energy.
Laz, what we are witnessing is their end goal of their means. While their govt. shares responsibility because they too were complicit, Monboit and the rest of the cast can callously look at each other, give the “thumbs up” to each other and state, “mission accomplished.” They were told this would happen. Heck Laz, you were told.
The deaths of these poor people world wide, suffering because they have to choose between food or heat, can be directly laid at the feet of the CAGW advocacy.
It looks like there has definitely been a move away from cheaper forms of energy during the CAGW scam era.
gas – 39.93% (0.05% in 1990)
coal – 33.08% (67.22% in 1990)
nuclear – 19.26% (18.97% in 1990)
renewables – 3.55% (0% in 1990)
hydroelectric – 1.10% (2.55% in 1990)
imports – 1.96% (3.85% in 1990)
oil – 1.12% (6.82% in 1990)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Electricity_Supply_Industry
This is just another CYA claim by Moon Bat to blame others for the results of what they promoted. This has been mentioned many times in the past. The ECO Whackos have caused regulations to be enacted that resulted in millions of deaths each year since they started with their Gaia crap.
The excess deaths during cold periods can be placed on the shoulders of the Green Movement and the AGW crowd. How does it feel to be part of the group that caused so many deaths, LAZ and TonyD?
Look this cooling thing is really a benefit. No one is dying of Malaria or dengue fever in the UK because of this climate disruption.
Not so fast sunshine!
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