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Societies move from authoritarianism to democracy, that is just what happens in the end. If there is to be a global system that works, it won’t be a “government” in the normal sense. No single group is smart enough to have all the answers, and no single group is smart enough to be wrong about everything. So we survive by diversity. We survive because humanity’s intelligence is distributed amongst seven billion minds who all explore a slightly different point of view. So no one world dictatorships. Even if we all did it Hansen’s way, unforseen problems would arise that he would not know how to solve. They praise diversity in ecosystems so much, why not also praise diversity in human social systems, hmmm?
what makes you think its humanity isn’t also a series of biological ecosystems under evolutionary pressure as evidenced by natural selection of societies and cultural systems and their constituent parts ?
“think of it as evolution in action.” Larry Niven
OK I’m actually referring to models of cultural development (see Spiral Dynamics). It charts the differences between a tribal culture (20,000 years ago), an agrarian mythic culture (4000 years ago), an authoritarian empire culture (1000 years ago) and a modern industrial culture (100 years ago).
The fascinating thing is that whilst there was no such thing as modern industrial culture 5000 years ago — all these cultures arose as new stages, in a broad sequence, through history — looking around the world today we see examples of all these cultures still existing. From Kalahari bushmen, to Zimbabwean dictatorships, to Chinese authoritarian order, to Singapore entrepreneurialism, to American freedom of speech, to European egalitarian sensibilities. So what does this mean?
Read Spiral Dynamics and you’ll see that the global warming thing is all about warring cultures. The irony is that in trying to go “global” people like Hansen are reverting to earlier stages — a kind of cultural regression, and that’s why so many people object to AGW in their bones — it isn’t so much the science but the “remedies” that AGW people are proposing — and if you look at Spiral Dynamics you’ll see that these “remedies” and “lifestyle changes” are actually a somewhat regressive cultural move. Hansen supports China — I mean that says it all. But read SD and it becomes pretty obvious that he’s going backwards — we know this because the model puts authoritarian culture as older and less advanced than modern industrial culture. Hansen thinks this is a forward move, but historical developmental models of culture show that is is actually a backward move.
So my original point above about diversity was really to support the modern mindset that a diversity of individuals should be free to think for themselves — that is the key cultural mindset that makes us modern — if you jettison that, then we are back to the dark ages, literally, because that is what came before modernity, back when serfs didn’t think, they just suffered and obeyed.
Stefan that was In-spiralling!
yes, i see your point, however, all of this can be explained by simple cultural accumulation/accretion. The more you know, the more you succeed. The more you succeed, the more powerful you become. The more powerful you become, the more your cultural meme spreads. Ad infinitum
We see the same deal in social insects. There is nothing new under the sun. Evolution is sublime.
China is busy buying up European debt. This week they have come to the rescue of Portugal.
Why? Because they want the EU to remove restrictions on arm sales which were imposed after Tianamen.
Is there anyone left that doesn’t now know what we’re up against?
China takes over – Hansen will be the first student in the education camps. Idiots never learn.
a common misconception.
– china holds 6% of us debt total.
– our GDP DWARFS that of China.
– If we stopped buying from china they would implode in less than a year, period.
China’s leadership uses iron control and repression because they simply must. Minor loosening of the reins would result in minor CHAOS.
Corruption is universal and serious, otherwise they would not execute high officials who instigate it. Dig deeper, grasshopper, China is not a happy place.
Clarification – I am not saying China WILL take over, only that if it DOES take over, hansen (and his family) are dead meat.
“History often isn’t kind to those who rush it.”