Franklin Graham makes a perfectly logical observation and the White House responds with PMS.
Graham, who has met with Obama before, appeared on ABC’s “This Week” and was asked about people like Donald Trump bringing up questions about the president’s birth. “Well, the — the president I know has some issues to deal with here. He can solve this whole birth certificate issue pretty quickly. I don’t — I was born in a hospital in Asheville, North Carolina, and I know that my records are there,” Graham said.
“You can probably even go and find out what room my mother was in when I was born. I don’t know why he can’t produce that. So I’m not — I don’t know. But it’s an issue that looks like he could — he could answer pretty quickly,” he added.
White House response.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said comments by Rev. Franklin Graham that there were issues surrounding President Obama’s birth were “preposterous charges.”
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/
Graham didn’t make any charges. Rather he made a simple and obvious suggestion of how Obama could put an end to the rumours.
He has presented his short form birth certificate, which is what people normally use for official purposes such as getting a passport. There were two notices in newspapers of the day indicating his birth. It seems that we have uncovered a new mental illness called “birther syndrom” where people cannot accept evidence and process it.
It is not a short form Birth Certificate, as some have claimed, Ann Coulter among them. What was presented is called Certification of Live Birth.
Obama presented a Certificate of Live Birth issued by Hawaii as you stated. This means little as Sun Yat-sen also had a Certificate of Live Birth issued by Hawaii.
I am not saying it is so; however it has been presented as a possibility that upon hearing of Obama’s birth(where ever that might have been), Obama’s grandparents filed for the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth which when filed was picked up as a birth announcement in the local newspaper just as an obituary might be picked up and automatically published.
Sun Yat-sen – Wikipedia
“In March 1904, Sun Yat-sen obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in Kula, Maui. According to Lee Yun-ping, chairman of the Chinese historical society, Sun needed this certificate to enter the United States at a time when the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 would have otherwise blocked him”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen
There were two notices in newspapers of the day indicating his birth.
Do you have links to this?
Daniel Packman
I thought by now you would have replied.
Did you see this video? Michelle Obama says her husband is from Kenya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
Are you serious about this? You need medical help. Referring to one’s “home country” obviously refers to his relatives there. Sigh.
Daniel Packman says:
April 26, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Are you serious about this? You need medical help. Referring to one’s “home country” obviously refers to his relatives there. Sigh.
Huh, coulda swore home meant home. Is this the political redefining of that word, like “What is is?”?
How pathetic. Everyone is sure to believe you Daniel.
Daniel Packman says:
April 26, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Are you serious about this? You need medical help.
According to who?
Daniel Packman
The number of Americans that doubt Obama was born in America is growing:
…..only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA…..
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2011-04-25-trump-president-poll.htm
It looks like you are in the minority on this issue Daniel.
I got a new passport last year and had to show my LONG BC form
The numbers are increasing indicating that loud mouth liars like Trump can stir people up. Truth is never decided by numbers.
Good point, the claimed global warming consensus is meaningless.
Daniel Packman says:
April 26, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Truth is never decided by numbers.
President Obama keeps tap dancing around this issue. And his approach to dealing with people that simply want to see his birth certificate is to mock them—just as you are doing, Daniel. That’s an intimidation tactic—ridicule the people and hope they will curl up like a caterpillar. Which leads one to conclude there indeed is something to hide.
By the way, I don’t detect a “loud mouth” in anyone asking to see the birth certificate. So, you are trying to define anyone that simply wants proof that their President was born in their country is as a loud mouth? They are agitators? I suppose the light of day is an awful prospect for those trying to keep things in the dark. Such radicals, huh. The truth is they are only petitioning their government.
I think you won’t believe this Daniel but the more resistance given to those who want to see the birth certificate the more people will become curious. If you think this issue is loud now hold onto your hat baby.
Maybe a second book will come out approaching the issue from a different angle and will be a #1 best seller.
The freedom of speech and press was fashioned by the Founding Fathers with these exact type of situations in mind. Isn’t that wonderful?
Everybody has to present their certified Birth Cert when some agency of the state, federal, or even a foreign government requires it. I’ve had to do this on numerous occasions. Why can’t BHO come up with his? This is a rhetorical question because everyone reading this knows that no response is forthcoming from you or your ilk.
My experience is apparently quite different from yours. My certificate of live birth and those for the rest of my family were sufficient to get passports and other legal documents.
Daniel Packman
The people of the United States want to see their President’s Birth Certificate. Government officials in the United States are servants of the people. Therefore Obama is required to show it. The people can smell when they are being ruled instead of served. They want to smell something different than they are smelling now. The more you tell them to like what they smell the more they will call it a stink.
He has come up with his certified birth certificate. This clamor for a “long form” is quite bizarre. No one else has had to do this.
When did he show a birth certificate?
huh, who said anything about “long form”???
You just inserted that.
Is that your next tactic—to act as if the issue was already settled because a birth certificate was already shown and then knock people off point?
But a birth certificate has never been shown. Be real. The only thing that keeps getting shown over and over is a Certification of live birth. It’s not even a Certificate of Live Birth, the term you brought up before. It is a Certification of Live Birth. It is not a birth certificate.
Yes, the issue has long been settled. It has been examined by man independent entities. Your continued emphasis on this is unfounded and bizarre. Get medical help.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20057596-503544.html
Where’s the Birth Certificate?
Daniel Packman says:
April 27, 2011 at 12:55 am
Yes, the issue has long been settled.
Ahhhh, settled, just like global warming.
Most Americans don’t believe you Daniel.
The White House certainly is touchy about this.
The Corsi book was #1 at Amazon for a few days, and it’s at #14 today (or was a few hours ago), and that’s for pre-order. People can’t wait to read up on it.
The news announcements appear to be real – I’ve seen them presented by a credible source. But they mean nothing except that someone needed to make an announcement. If Ann were seeking ANYTHING for her son, she likely needed to legitimize his identity as best as she could. The COLB presented on Obama’s website IS NOT a long form Birth Certificate. Corsi has done a lot of work on this. In Hawaii, the COLB was obtainable even (Long) after the fact of a birth, upon the deposition of those seeking a birth record. It is not verifiable proof he was born in Hawaii. It has the further problem that the serial number is out of sequence with those of others born in the same time period. I think Trump has revealed they (Corsi) also sought hospital records for the dates surrounding his birth and find none. There is no physician forthcoming either.
Add to this that Obama’s presented SSN was registered to a kid in Connecticut, who later died in Hawaii. I’m getting the book to learn what Corsi uncovered on this. If Obama’s SSN is not his own, and that appears likely, it’s a felony for him to use it….. and it’s a likely indication that prior to becoming the most powerful individual on the planet, he was unable to obtain a legitimate SSN. Checkmate.
So all this phony righteous indignation is just that: Bulls@*t. The ONE RECORD he could obtain and hand over in hours is mysteriously incapable of finding its way into the light of day. When that record shows up and is validated, THEN you can have your righteous indignation. No one is doing anything to Obama. He’s the one responsible for this situation.
So, do you really believe all the made-up stuff? Fascinating.
If Barry wants to bring forth his transcripts and Long Form BC, Attending Physician, or other records showing
he is legitimate, all I’m going to do is say “Thanks. That’s all we wanted.” The initial investigation I wouldn’t have bothered with. But now that he’s clearly avoiding disclosure, HIS ACTIONS create suspicion. I’m ready to believe him if he steps up with documents. It sounds like you’re ready to believe him in the absence of anything but his indignation at being
asked. You’re the one in denial. You ought to get Corsi’s book so you can start developing your counterclaims.
I’m not done with this. This whole situation really ticks me off.
People who have done well in life are more than happy to show you their accomplishments. I LOVE showing my college records to anybody who will pretend to care. If those records presented a favorable light for Obama, you can bet we’d have seen them repeatedly.
The truth is just as Barry himself explained: ” The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGfEzLlcO_s
A year ago, I told my brother about Obama: “This guy is The Destroyer”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGTJ6ElUezY
You would think a valid birth certificate would need to be produced for anyone running for President. If there is anything here, it has been out of the barn four years too long.
This blog is a science discussion/interest site.
For me, some absolute rules: 1) Accept nothing on faith; 2) Verify all facts; 3) Show all your work; 4) Be humble enough to admit the possibility of error
Obama’s Certification of Live Birth lists his father’s race as “African”
In 1961 in America, that is quite unbelievable (as well as genetically meaningless)
That simple, single fact (provided by Obama) blows his whole nativity story IMHO
There’s much more, but one fact is sufficient to falsify an hypothesis
Glad to hear that you admit you could be wrong. Now show your work on how you verified these “facts”. All I see is a simple assertion that “African” was never used as an indication of race in 1961 birth certificates. As you said, we shouldn’t accept this information on faith. In fact, it seems that you are wrong http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/04/the-african-race/
IF he has nothing to hide why has he spent a small fortune to hide it??? He sent teams of lawyers to prevent his BC and his college records from being released. Can someone explain? Presidents are vetted. Presidents don’t hide such basic information. It may not be his place of birth thats the issue, but there’s something on there he doesnt’ want people to see. Otherwise, he’s a major idiot because no person in their right mind would spent so much money and effort on such a simple issue that is usually standard procedure. If you think he’s done all this and has nothing to hide, then you are the idiot.
The REAL conspiracy is WHY is he doing all this…..HUH??
Why are you making up this stuff about him spending a small fortune to hide things?
ttp://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-obama-has-spent-2-million-lega/
Dan
He just has to show his birth certificate and this whole thing will be over.
But that may not be enough at this point. If he does actually decide to tell the hospital in Hawaii to bring it out he will probably now need document experts to verify it so to put to bed any assertion that he waited because he wanted time to get a viable fake made.
Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
April 27, 2011 at 12:36 am
Dan
He just has to show his birth certificate and this whole thing will be over.
But that may not be enough at this point. If he does actually decide to tell the hospital in Hawaii to bring it out he will probably now need document experts to verify it so to put to bed any assertion that he waited because he wanted time to get a viable fake made.
Give it rest can’t you!