The upper 700 metres of the global ocean has seen a rise in temperature since reliable records began in the late 1960s. However, there has been a pause in this warming during the period from 2003 to 2010.
In other words, Spencer’s radiative balance observations are correct, and his detractors are idiots.
Reuters and AP wont publish that.
They can if they stress the”pause” word.
I see that the missing heat didn’t go to space as per Spencers satellite findings but supposedly went deeper into the ocean. I’m assuming the latter was “proved” by computer simulations rather than measurements. On the one hand we have data showing losses to space and on the other speculation of warm water sinking. Something wrong there wouldn’t you say? Can warmer water sink under cooler water? Not in the physics I learnt but then I’m not a climate scientist.
If you attach bags of lead shot or even sand to the warm water you can get it to sink! 😉
lol, no doubt, warm water sinking……. that’s trick!
“I see that the missing heat didn’t go to space as per Spencers satellite findings but supposedly went deeper into the ocean.”
45% did according to the actual research.
Hot water sinks. Every idiot knows that.
Laz, the problem with the assertions——– “A different set of model simulations from the Met Office supports the idea of heat moving to the deeper ocean explaining the recent pause in upper ocean warming.”
Spencer uses empirical measurements.
They determined the heat went down, not be measurements, but by assumptions.
Well that still means that the oceans have been the hottest they have ever been. And that is what MSM would publish.
Please post this hockey stick graph:
http://calderup.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/cloudgraph.jpg
Key Points:
An 8?yr period without upper ocean warming is not exceptional
It is explained by more radiation to space (45%) and deep ocean warming (35%)
Recently?observed changes point to an upcoming resumption of upper ocean warming
Quoted from the actual science paper the report is based on.
Yes, the new La Nina is a sure indicator of a warming upper ocean.
LAZ:
Let me fix your statement:
“Quoted from the actual science FANTASY paper the report is based on.”
That reads better!
“Hot water sinks. Every idiot knows that.”
Must be why ice floats.
Did you graduate high school?
This is what keeps the crowds coming back for more! 😉
Laz,
have you thought about Density?
I think I have found Laz’s real identity…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8bRciuMLqQ
He got it and he is.
God, why do people who don’t get science but believe they do, don’t get sarcasm either?
Even Steve whose dumb comment it was aimed at said something.
Yet when he posts “Hot water sinks. Every idiot knows that”, – not a peep.
Believe me I get density, there is more than enough of it among the crowd on here, sheesh!
Obviously you both understand and appreciate denseness.
Why on earth would I appreciate it, especially from a blog rather oddly titled ‘Real Science’?
Laz, Climate computer games modeled the pause in upper ocean warming and climate computer games modeled the heat hiding in the deep oceans….
…which was confirmed by measuring temperatures of the ocean surface
and a different set of computer game model simulations supported and explained the first set of computer games…….
…do you see any problem with that
The only real problem I see is that you are trying to criticise models when they tell you what you don’t want to hear, but accept them, as in the case above, when you think they tell you something you do want to hear.
Do you see my problem with that?
I see that you are FOS
First……”I” don’t accept any computer game
“”Lazarus says:
August 25, 2011 at 12:04 pm
It is explained by””
A computer game…..
….You have one game verifying another game
when the real world measurements say it’s not