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..also “In Search Of..” never devoted an entire episode to the oncoming ice age that no-one was warning us about, including the non-existent Stephen Schneider.
Then of course, there’s the fabled Hubert Lamb who never predicted an oncoming ice age only to never change his mind a few years later when he discovered there’s more funding in predicting AGW.
None of this was ever reported by the media, or recorded by anyone, so no-one knows whether or not it was true.
I can imagine in 40 years time people will be saying exactly the same thing about the AGW scare. “Nope.. never happened. Who the hell is James Hansen?”
Speaking of alarmism, ‘In Search Of’, and Stephen Schneider…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwZLbFm-X3Q
that is some sensational De Ja Vu you got there pardner.
So there was a “CONSENSUS” hey?
Meteorologists are almost united hey? There must have been 3% contrarians LMFAO
…..now I can’t get the visual of a herd of snails out of my mind
“Heat loving snails…” Ah those were the days.
I was alive and well in the ’70s and there were scares a plenty of the “impending ice-age”. Rain and flooding were common and I recall more than one year sand-bagging my parent’s house in the foothills north of Los Angeles California. I also spent 1972 to 1976 in the military in Europe in the tank corps and it was cold, cold, cold. Let’s not forget the winter of 1977 in Buffalo, NY:
http://larc.hamgate.net/blizzard_of_1977.htm
Anybody on this blog live through that? I wasn’t there, but remember well the media going berserk about the weather/climate – ice-age coming. blah, blah blah. Now it’s catastrophic warming. All man-made of course…
Here’s a link to buy the CS Monitor contribution
One way to really insult a person’s intelligence is to tell them that something they saw happen, didn’t really happen.
Like telling people there was no holocaust for example. Or that 9/11 was an inside job by jews instead of islamic terrorists. It really pisses us off.
So I encourage the AGW cultists to continue this attempted whitewash of the 1970’s ice-age alarmism. It really rallies our troops. Keep it up.
I lived in Germany at the time and spent many wonderful days playing in the Alps. I was often regaled with stories of impending doom. The ‘scientists’ had conivinced the mountain dwellers that advancing glaciers would keep advancing until their quaint villages were wiped out. But then I guess that never really happened… War is Peace…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkwm1FVHEIE
More links regarding the non-existent ice age scares
http://anotherviewonclimate.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/time-announces-approaching-ice-age/
Fascinating stuff gentlemen,
Please point out to me the scientists who have said that NO one predicted cooling and that there was absolutely no media coverage of this idea. OOPS. sorry made that documentation request gaffe again.
I think the issue has been around the word “consensus” and for that word, there clearly was no consensus about an impending ice age or even continued cooling by a majority of climate scientists. The point HAS to be that it was a consensus, because then you can show that the whole discipline was completely wrong and terefore set the precedent for the current situation
How many times are you going to recycle a TV show that gave equal credence to Von Doniken and Sasquatch? Certainly there must have been dozens of other prime time shows that had a tiny bit more credibility promoting this completely accepted theory of an imminent ice age.
And as I have repeatedly pointed out. I lived through this period and was VERY Into science, and have only very vague recollections. You are acting as if this was as big a thing as the worries about nuclear war. Now THAT I remember. People talked about it, ALL the newspapers and magazines had numerous articles about it, as opposed to the paucity of articles that you have so far come up with. I am sorry but one or two articles in any particular source, be it Newsweek, Science News, Discover or any other science or mainstream publication over the course of a decade does not a consensus make.
In the same vein as Tony
First; where’s the professional attempt to document actual climatologists who where saying “warm” versus “cold”?
Or is it anathema to ask for a disciplined approach to finding things out as opposed to an eternal fountain of worthless anecdotes and empty ridicule?
Second; the issue is moot. Even if this falsehood about the majority of climatologists having frozen icicles inside their skull were true; it is no more relevant than counting all the Geologists in the 1930s who denied the theory of continental drift.
Yet, if you were to be ‘skeptical’ of the theory of continental drift, I can assure you that you would use the same silly tactic. You would simply make a collection of all the scientists who denied continental drift and parade them around as ‘proof’ that a lack of scientific consensus back then somehow disproves anything that has been established nowadays.
You may now armor your egos with the usual defensive ridicule routine.
Tony – please get yourself to the right side of ridicule. Everybody agrees that between 1972 and 1975 the idea of global cooling was “widely accepted” in scientific circles, as written by Peterson Connolley and Fleck. Then as now, scientists told the media forecasts that were simple extensions of contemporary trends. IOW an ice age…
Think about it…there was not an article in Science or Nature or any other scientific journal decrying the media coverage of global cooling/ice age…
Has anyone here ever heard of a survey?
And why should professional preoccupy themselves with anything that the media screeches about?
Ill Terra Blowing – cut the crap…what evidence do you need to come to the mainstream view that Murray Mitchell in 1972 established the consensus of a global cooling with no end in sight?
As for professionals and the media, they were happily interviewed and I haven’t found a soul who doesn’t care about how the interview is reported, worse, get himself interviewed again when his first.interview is misreported.