Will NOAA Try To Claim That A Hurricane Made Landfall?

It seems very unlikely that there will be sustained hurricane force winds recorded at any of the weather stations along the North Carolina coast.

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31 Responses to Will NOAA Try To Claim That A Hurricane Made Landfall?

  1. truthsword says:

    Even the gusts are below hurricane force….

  2. Mike Davis says:

    YES!

  3. nigelf says:

    If it suits their global warming cause then yes, they will. I have yet to see any news organization say that it’s been 1,075 days since the last landfall, including Fox.
    Maybe I just wasn’t watching when they said it…

  4. Blade says:

    Will NOAA Try To Claim That A Hurricane Made Landfall?

    LOL! Watching the Weather Channel at 07:45 EDT with their hurricane gang hemming and hawing about ‘landfalling’. Anyone else seeing this?

    This sucker is going to be very close to missing land if the center of the eye is the standard for landfall. Repeating from another thread:

    I want Irene to either dip into Tropical Storm category and/or bank East and just miss land.

    That is the recipe for watching lots of heads explode on TV today.

  5. papertiger says:

    I’m watching the local feed from North Carolina. It’s amazing the lengths and measures they are taking to make sure nobody is informed on the whereabouts of the eye of the storm. They show a doppler and make sure to close in on one band of rain, so that you never take in the whole scope of the storm in one shot. At the natural places in the news cast, instead of an overview, they regurgitate the NOAA consensus of climate models maintaining the fiction that New York is due for woe sometime next Sunday…

    Awww Poor NYC. By Sunday they are going to discover the down side of the precautionary principle in real time. As the millions of people who were forced out of their homes, are forced to walk back (because Mayor Copperhead pulled the plug on the subway). Many to return to looted apartments no doubt.

    They won’t report it. It’s going to be on the lowdown, q-tee, an unofficial state secret, put it’ll make an impression on the public. And it won’t take much coaxing. Perhaps a post or two recalling that “You know those hurricane models that blew the call on Irene all the way from Puerto Rico to New York City? Getting a lot of people all lathered up for a big nothing? Yeah those are the same general circulation models that are the basis for the global warming scam, only applied to the regional rather than global scale.”

    Oh and the precautionary principle. “What you going to do with all those emergency supplies, New Yorkers? Ebay sales maybe?”

    • Why do you think they are trying to get people out of NYC? I think our failing president needs a good crises to blame his bad economy on. He’s already on television trying to once again run against George Bush.

    • Liz says:

      NYC’s crime rate is below the national average. If I were you, I would contact your local representative in your area and complain that the meth manufacturing in your area has made you a moran.

      I do admit, I am happy that people such as yourself, have such a misconception of my city. That means you will stay away as well as your should’ve-been-aborted-offsprings.

      • Jerry says:

        What’s a moran ?

      • Kev says:

        There’s that famed NY hospitality! Keep it classy, New York!

      • papertiger says:

        On the contrary, I think we get a very clear picture, with any distortions overwhelmed and washed out by sheer volume. Much clearer than Liz’s picture.
        For her to imagine that people would move to New York of their own volition. Think I touched a nerve.
        BtW Liz thanks for sending us Tony Weiner as NY’s representative.

        That last bit about wanting to kill babies, you think that might be driven by residual guilt over some personal incident in her past?

  6. Gator says:

    Maybe we should ask Julienne. After her latest revelation, I’m not sure how ‘they’ define ‘hurricane’ or ‘landfall’ anymore…

  7. Blade says:

    Now they’re claiming landfall at 7:30 EDT! wtf?

    Another scam? I want to see the eyewall video. The guy on the beach doesn’t see any blue sky.

    We will need an audit I think. What is the wind speed? For some reason they are not saying.

    I heard him say 155 mph wing gust.

    What is a hurricane again? Man, I don’t trust anyone anymore.

  8. Blade says:

    Arrgghh … that was 115 mph wind gust.

  9. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    This is going to leave a mark on the 2 Joes.

  10. papertiger says:

    Here’s Revkin (youtube of evolving storm track predictions from Puerto Rico on through to North Carolina) inadvertently showing the hurricane models as the tools of weather channel hucksterism.

    Make a copy.

  11. Mike Davis says:

    NOAA did claim a hurricane made landfall!
    From NOAA:
    BULLETIN
    HURRICANE IRENE INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 28A
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
    800 AM EDT SAT AUG 27 2011

    …CENTER OF IRENE MAKES LANDFALL NEAR CAPE LOOKOUT NORTH
    CAROLINA…

    SUMMARY OF 800 AM EDT…1200 UTC…INFORMATION
    ———————————————-
    LOCATION…34.7N 76.5W
    ABOUT 5 MI…10 KM NNE OF CAPE LOOKOUT NORTH CAROLINA
    ABOUT 60 MI…100 KM SW OF CAPE HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA
    MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…85 MPH…140 KM/H
    PRESENT MOVEMENT…NNE OR 15 DEGREES AT 14 MPH…22 KM/H
    MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…952 MB…28.11 INCHES

    • papertiger says:

      With Hurricane Irene taking aim on North Carolina, officials at Cape Hatteras National Seashore and Cape Lookout National Seashore were shuttering campgrounds and facilities, closing beaches, and directing visitors to leave the area.
      As of 5 p.m. EDT Wednesday

      No witnesses. Gov in complete control of message.

  12. Bob says:

    Weather forecasting is now entertainment. Will anyone ever believe the “cry wolf” tales again? Not likely

  13. This is all hyped up for some extra stimulus spending for infrastructure like bridges, roads and electrical grids. Think of the money that was spent at Home Depots, and the food stores, Pharmacies etc etc. Even the Hotels and Restaurants will make money. The union carpenters are working too!

  14. Aaron Murphy says:

    lol so forget about the 88 MPH recorded wind gust in Hatteras, North Carolina – a hurricane force gust. Or the 94 MPH gust in Jacksonville – the stupidity is amazing in this blog.

  15. Tom Potter says:

    Someone tell Jereldo Rivera he can quit looking for Al Capone’s treasure and start looking for the “hurricane”.

  16. Airwx says:

    1. Landfall…point of first radar crossing of eyewall
    2. A hurricane is not a symetrical area of wind. Highest winds are usually in a range fron 330 degrees clockwise to 150 degress relative to storm motion. Using momentary low readings in a hurricane is bogus, just as using gusts as the avaerage winds is bogus.
    3. landfall was 7 south of Sealevel, NC…and if you worked with me you would have known that my forecast was for a high Cat 1 storm to hit that spot NLT 13z this AM.Fcst was made on Thursday @ 20z.. No brag, just fact.
    4. Explain to me how the govt can generate 10 inches of rain, 10 foot waves, radar echo tops to 35,000 feet and knock down a few hundred trees, cause power outages, flood roads and homes and do all this without a hurricane?
    And what should worry all of you…I have a degree in……………nothing!

  17. flyboy65 says:

    I guess those roofs and siding being blown off houses along NC and VA are just illusions!

    • Gator says:

      More likely poor construction. I get gusts over 80 MPH with several storms each year and have had no wind damage in 10 years. Neighbors who used substandard contractors have had wind damage. I made sure my home was built beyond hurricane specs, and I live hundreds of miles from the coast.

      And as for downed trees, with all the rainfall the east coast recieved before Irene, the ground is soft and Irene’s winds can more easily topple the trees.

      It’s a storm guys, they blow.

  18. Gator says:

    “It is not unusual for me to lose a few trees now and then when the wind blows and I live no where near the coast.”

    I have had to be very careful what trees I plant. I live on top of one of the highest points in my county, an exposed ridge, which gets the full force of storm winds. Soft wooded trees get shredded up here. Oaks and certain maples do best for me.

    And of course a custom metal roof, hurricane straps and 2X6 construction helps keep the big bad wolf at bay.

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