Temperatures are only 133 degrees below the freezing point, and the ice sheet is collapsing.
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That’s global warming for ya, It causes temperatures in the Antarctic to be the opposite of warm.
Another report of an early winter moving in.
Snowfall in Himachal rings in early winters.
“The Rohtang pass received 15cm fresh snow while Kunzum pass on Manali-Spiti highway witnessed 25cm snow. Hills above 15,000 feet have received more than 30cm fresh snow while snowfall is still on in Western Himalaya regions in Himachal.”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Snowfall-in-Himachal-rings-in-early-winters/articleshow/16470126.cms
(I hope this isn’t considered spamming, I just want to point out an early winter is moving in)
Early snow falls on Mt. Fuji
Mount Fuji has received its first snow of the season, which is 18 days earlier than average and 12 days earlier than last year, acccording to the Japan Meteorological Agency..
http://newsonjapan.com/html/newsdesk/article/98271.php
So what does showing the temperature from a high elevation in the Pole of Cold have to do with the temperature of the Antarctic peninsula some 2000-3000 miles away? Aren’t the stories about Antarctic ice melt and glacial shifts mentioning the Antarctic peninsula and coastal areas? Can you link to articles claiming that ice is melting in the Pole of Cold? Otherwise this is like comparing temperatures in North Chukotka and Tuva. Both are in Russia but if you think their climates are the same you need to refill your toddy…
The Antarctic peninsula is surrounded by sea ice and below normal SSTs
But what does the temperature at Vostok have to do with proving/disproving events happening thousands of miles away?
Why are you making stupid comments?
What is stupid about questioning your logic? The temperature at Vostok right now is like -97 °F and the temperature at Base Marambio on the Antarctic peninsula is 0 °F. That’s almost a 100 degree difference. Don’t you think it’s kinda silly to point at the Vostok temperature and say TADA! Sorry if facts are getting in the way of your narrative.
Let’s get completely mental and pretend that all of Antarctica north of 65S melted. That would raise sea level by how much?
“That would raise sea level by how much?”
-I don’t know and actually I don’t care. I was just trying to figure out how you could prove/disprove ice melting several thousand miles away by referencing the temperature of one of the coldest parts of the planet. Seemed like a giant logical fallacy to me. But you would rather just try and insult people and shift the argument. Great job!
Can it control the IQ of people thousands of miles away?
Maybe Hansen can explain it with his 1200-mile extrapolations and purple crayon, err something.
“Let’s get completely mental and pretend that all of Antarctica north of 65N melted.”
65S?
You know full well that the “scientists” count on the ignorant media and sheeple to misinterpret these reports.
The phony “scientists” never correct their mistakes by telling the reporters: “you got it wrong, we’re talking about the peninsula that sticks out of the polar circle into the lower latitudes, please correct your mistake!”
The real story is that they intentionally allow the mistakes to propagate, essentially using Antarctica’s version of Miami beach as a proxy for Seattle.
Either you know this and are a co-conspirator or just a useful idiot. Which is it?
I just spammed Barnaby. Yet another time wasting attack.
I think Steve’s point is that where all the ice is – which is the part that is supposed to melt – is where it is very very cold. But certain people point to where it is warmer, where there is little opportunity for melt to occur. They then hope people don’t connect the dots because it’s just described as the ‘Arctic’.
According to UAH, Arctic temps have risen by 1.01C between 1980 and 2012, while Antarctic has fallen by 0.87C.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/arctic-v-antarctic-temperatures/
What is more interesting is to observe the degree of natural variability. Since we can safely assume that cooling of a pole is not consistent with climate models, if you see, say, bounces of up to 1C in temperature there over periods spanning 5-15 years, then that is in itself interesting. It gives you a handle of the natural variability and whether anything is happening outside that range.