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20 Weeks
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Well, That’s what it looks like….. before some people start ripping it apart while still alive.
Another potential future blessing for America and the West. Will he become a doctor, a farmer, a pipefitter/welder, an electrician, a pastor, a good cop? Not if the murderous, Malthusian leftists have their say.
Take note that I didn’t include prosecutorial lawyers, politicians, judges, or insurance and used-car salesmen in my list of noble professions.
Oh, a “photograph” of a fetus at 15-20 weeks. And two more males implying that they should have control over women’s bodies. And will “he” become a contributing member of society or a Jeffery Dahmer. Let’s not pretend that there is a simple solution to the problem.
Only if he has a parent like you will he be afforded the potentiality of becoming the next Jeffrey Dahmer. I hate the politics and mindset of Margaret Sanger, but I’m beginning to revise my thinking as it relates to “grown-up” idiots not unlike yourself.
That’s what most thinking people would call a “simple solution.”
The control should happen before the pregnancy occurs. If someone attacks a pregnant woman and kills her unborn baby, they can be prosecuted for that. If a doctor attacks a pregnant woman and kills her baby, it’s her “right”.
The Hippocratic oath says, “Do no harm.” The hypocrites say, “fuck you losers who aren’t as smart as those of us trained in leftist “academia.” On a lesser note, if you love fucking the pussy, be prepared to take care of your offspring, MEN. Dey be a plenty o ho’s more dan willin’ to bring da nex generation of Trayvons into da world–all wid nuttin to offer ‘cept “I be here, look at me. I’m pretty [sic, and gag].” Daddy says, “look at me, I got a Muslim do-rag an’ a beard.” Don’t be a part of it–especially if they’re fat, black (cursed from on High), Sicilian, and/or need to spend an hour in the morning applying their makeup. Doug Giles nailed it:
http://www.clashdaily.com/2013/02/10-ways-women-can-wreck-their-marriage
Oops. I replied below instead of here.
The ease at which you embrace dehumanization. For a stage of humanity your current one is dependent upon.
As a woman, I am extremely against ripping unborn human beings to shreds. It especially heinous to kill babies at this age, when they can feel everything and no pain killer is used. But what can I expect out of a man, who wants to have casual sex without consequences and doesn’t care about the woman or child he leaves behind.
You need to find a good man, and you won’t find him in a bar.
Unless you’re fat, ugly, haven’t shaved your mustache in the last five minutes, and are up to your beautiful lips in debt.
It’s very hard to respect anybody who desires the choice to be able to murder a fetus at 15-20 weeks. Next it will be the right to choose to murder a baby post partum.
Being allowed to murder is the choice, the timing of doing so without criminal liability is the moving goal post.
What about the (female) baby’s body, Robert?
Calling a baby a fetus doesn’t change the fundamental nature of the act.
Couching the debate in terms of “women’s health”, or “reproductive rights”–deflects attention from the facts, and obfuscates with unrelated issues.
The issue is human life, and the right to it.
If it were so vitally important for a women not to become pregnant, there are certainly ways to avoid it.
Killing a human being for one’s own negligence? Unforgivable.
I’m betting you don’t have children. Abortion becomes an abhorrent thought when you think of it in terms of the lives you brought into this world yourself.
Is it a problem ? After looking at that pic ? …if it was yours..could u “take it away” ? There be problems coming…as with most kids…and if u take it away…other problems will come…maybe u can supress them..maybe not. I could not do it.
And as they departed, Jesus began to say to the multitudes concerning John,
“What went you out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?
“But what went you out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses.
“But what went you out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say to you, and more than a prophet. For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before your face, which shall prepare your way before you.
“Truly I say to you, Among them that are born of women there has not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he.
“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
“And if you will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. He that has ears to hear, let him hear.
“But whereunto shall I liken this generation? It is like to children sitting in the markets, and calling to their fellows, and saying, We have piped to you, and you have not danced; we have mourned to you, and you have not lamented. For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, He has a devil. The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold, a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.”
Matthew 11:7-19
Idiots strain out the gnats, and swallow the camels, RTF. You know that. Failure for our third-world additions to American society usually revolves around “men” listening to weak-willed cunt who say, “my baby be so bootiful–the liddle mufugger can do no wrong ’cause he be so wunnerful’!” “My baby-my baby–you be a hurtin’ my baby,” because these fat pigs need a dick–even if it belongs to their son. (Did you ever want to know where the term “motherfucker” came from? Look only to the niggers and their progeny, the Sicilians).
Do not you yet understand, that whatsoever enters in at the mouth goes into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: these are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashed hands defiles not a man.
Otherwise known as 4 to 5 months. Out of 9. Also known as halfway to delivery.
Having “control over a women’s bodies” [SIC] is a phrase that describes a women in servitude or sex slavery ( which still exist today as seen recently in the news ). Prohibiting women from having tattoos or piercings or cosmetic surgery might also fit that description, but these DO NOT exist here ( perhaps in Islam? ). The closest actual practice that matches it would be outlawing prostitution which does exist and few libertarians support. But applying it to those trying to protect the baby is a real twist of logic and is frankly evil because it downplays what slavery is and has been in the real world.
This cuts to one, ugly, root of the issue. There are so many loons that want to pre-judge whether a baby will serve some useful purpose sometime down the road. Will they pay taxes? Will they contribute to the greater good? Will the eat meat and expel CO2? I guess we should have expected it is a natural progression from the enlightened Eugenics movement. Let’s see, the stats tell us that a black fetus is X times more likely to live in poverty or wind up in prison or not go to college. Hmmm, what could go wrong here? Margaret Sanger please pick up the courtesy phone.
No-one really needs to pretend anything. There is a simple solution, just precisely scientifically define the fetus to baby transition. Is it heartbeat, brain activity, movement, pain, etc? Anything except an ambiguous “3 months” versus “3 months + 1 day”, especially since no two develop at exactly the same rate. Establish a standardized scientific test that can give a red-light or green-light to abort legally or not abort under penalty of murder.
However, taking it out of the gray area would not serve the purpose of the liberal swine though, hence it will not likely happen. They would rather rail against their political enemies while accusing them of playing God. Ironically, it is they themselves who have created that very same power of God for irresponsible females aborting late in the term.
It’s funny to listen to males that support this power of God for women because Karma can come back in several ways. Especially when it is a selfish dude who was impatient or careless that one romantic evening. The girlfriend two weeks pregnant might decide “Sorry, I’m keeping it, see you in court for child support!”. Or, the wife or girlfriend might decide after 20 weeks “Sorry, I don’t want your baby after all you dirtbag”.
Still undetermined is what would happen if a 3rd party, maybe some dimwitted liberal neo-Eugenicist decided to take it upon himself to save the planet by slipping your 20-week expecting wife or girlfriend a Plan B abortion medication to cause an unwanted abortion. An equally interesting hypothetical would be if that same 3rd party liberal scum decided to just punch your wife hard enough to miscarry. Should he be charged with simple assault, or manslaughter or even murder? Equal protection under the law falls apart here because if one women says “Yes, charge him” and the other says “Oh Well”, then that power of God thing becomes the determinant of whether a law is enforced.
So who’s really being careless over this issue, liberals and moderates who want to sweep it under the rug to make it go away, or those that are concerned about the tremendous mess left in the wake of Roe v Wade?
On one side you have people who want to outlaw the morning after pill with no exceptions for rape and incest. On the other end you have people who think it is an absolute right to terminate any pregnency for any reason until the moment of natural birth. As with most issues, the best answer probably rests somewhere in the middle. But it is the fanatics on both sides that get all the attention.
Women demand murder rights. City folk. Lost any elections, lately?
Why is it that irrational and irresponsible people always need someone else to take care of the dirty work for problems that are purely their own fault?
Why ask a 2nd or 3rd party to clean up a mistake you’ve made and then declare it is your right to use everyone else’s money to undo your own error?
Why not take care of your own dirty deeds and leave your neighbors alone?
“Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you.” -God to Jeremiah
“Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves.” Prov. 31:8
“Rescue those being led away to slaughter.” Prov 24:11
“As you have done it to one of the least of them… you have done it to Me.” -Jesus (Mat 25:40-45)
Abortion supporters are at war with God, not man. Some of them don’t really understand that, but many of them, like Saul Alinsky, and the other Chicago community organizers who followed in his footsteps, understand it very well. They usually call their false god “choice” instead of Moloch, but what does that matter? Their sin is idolatry as much as it is murder:
“You shall have no other gods before Me.” Exodus 20:3
If you don’t believe that many pro-abortion activists know it’s God they’re at war with, you haven’t paid attention. They have an open and intense hatred toward everyone who follows Christ. Watch the pro-abortion activists in action, in Texas a few days ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41XENUuwKP8
Nor was that an isolated example. This is the testimony (in 2 parts) of a post-abortive pro-lifer named Ashley, in the Texas capitol rotunda — with abortion supporters chanting “hail Satan” in the background during the 2nd part:
http://acahnman.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-original-hailsatan-incident-with.html
I’m completely against abortion, unless the life of the mother is at risk, which I believe is very rare with modern medicine. Nothing to do with politics at all.
Life, since its inception, is the essential human right.
Agreed. The right to life is the highest right; chipping away at it with specious definitions of its beginning leads to the very slippery slope we’re on now.
Read this about the Journal of Medical “Ethics” article on “post-term abortion”.
In it, they posit applying the same “ethics” of abortion to “post-term” children; in other words, descending to the same barbarism that has befallen past empires, and engaging in infanticide.
Yeah. That’s right, they want to kill three-year-olds who become financially inconvenient.
“Oh, a “photograph” of a fetus at 15-20 weeks. And two more males implying that they should have control over women’s bodies.”
That is not a woman’s body. It is the body of a new human being who has rights. The woman and the womb are free to do as they please.
Does your mother ‘own’ you? Is your body her property? There were folks who thought along those lines 150 years ago, and we fought our bloodiest war over it.