“That graph” shows that Beaufort Sea ice area has been above normal every day but one since the start of June.
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Steve:
Are you saying that this graph shows above average ice as compared to the period 1980-2010?
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/recent365.anom.region.11.html
Because if you are, you don’t know how to read that graph.
Quite clever Reggie, the rowers are in great shape now:)
August 9th is getting closer…
You are at strike 2-1/2
Cut the crap. You are behaving like a complete douche bag.
Did you have your integrity surgically removed?
Why is that a strike?
Reggie: the ice is above the 1979-2008 average, and has been for 2 months.
Get over it.
Is the team taking the ferry down the Peel or Mackenzie or letting the current take them?
Reggie, doesn’t the graph show the anomaly for the amount of ice to be at or above the 79-08 average for all 2013 dates except about March 10th?–and a little more so of late.
:You state Steve did not know how to read this graph, so apparently neither do I.
As I do not like to make mistakes, I would appreciate your explanation of my mistake. Thank you In advance of your explanation.
He’s not the winner, he’s just another alarmist …
they keep saying things that make no sense.
NASA Operation IceBridge data collected during March and April indicated thick ice along the Greenland coast (5 meters, or 16 feet or more), but thin ice north of Alaska in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas, ranging from 1 to 1.5 meters (3 to 5 feet) in most areas and as low as 0.5 meters (approximately 2 feet) in others.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
Cut the bullshit Reggie.
The eastern half of the Beaufort Sea is full of thick MYI. The rowers drove around it instead of attempting to row through it – which would have been impossible.
117 bore holes = spectacular work and that should give us 100% accuracy in the graph shown:)
August 9th Reggie!
We had snow this morning dropping to 4200′ and that is not necessarily out of the norm…
Reggie My entire career has been devoted to the integrity, and honesty of those doing all types of science. In the last four years, I have probably studied more of what has been done in the Meme of global warming, er ah climate change or whatever. than I did in my entire undergraduate course of study. I am continually getting more disillusioned by so many, but not all.
I do not appreciate ad hominem attacks from any perspective and I do not believe you have done so. But I do not believe you are willing to accept with integrity that which is a straight forward observation.
In the end this pervasive lack of honesty among so many in the field will cause a total distrust in a much larger segment of scientific work, much like it has in politics.
It takes quality of character to admit when a mistake is made and sometimes we all do it.
(Although I have not seen Steve McIntyre make one yet)
Well said. The damage that scientists have done with this will lose their integrity with the public at large. Never have I seen this much and type of advocacy for an issue. Use to be an old saying about the stock market; if your cabbie is given g you stock tips it means its time to sell. I’d liken it to the climate; if your astronomer is telling you that the world is burning its time to move on from this issue. The alarmists lecture all of us on the piddly amount the Heartland Institute has contributed to the skeptic cause; but the truth is that world government expenditure for warmists propaganda has dwarfed anything the skeptics have come with. I’m convinced in 200 years that scientists of that era will mock the scientists of this era as simply out of their minds.
Bingo! I will repeat my comment from the first post regarding this arctic expedition:
Both sides of the arguments set forth in this particular set of comments are forgetting the basic tenet of global warming science:
BASIC TENET OF GLOBAL WARMING SCIENCE: “IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE AN OVER-REPRESENTATION OF FACTUAL PRESENTATIONS (LIE ABOUT) HOW DANGEROUS (GLOBAL WARMING) IS.”
Also of interest:
What happens when you tell people you are going to row across the north pole (or whatever these people are claiming)? Perhaps Eric Schmidt has the answer.
THAT WORKS BOTH WAYS: Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt: “The thirst for information is ultimately the solution to the problems we talk about here,” he said. “You can hold back knowledge; you cannot prevent it from spreading. You can lie about the effects of climate change, but eventually you’ll be seen as a liar.”
http://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycomARC/navo/arcticict_nowcast_anim30d.gif
Are you saying that this animation is wrong?
You are forgetting that there are still at least ten weeks left in melt season
Will you go on the record and state that the Beaufort will be blocked at the end of melt season?
I’m so sick of your bullshit
If the Beaufort isn’t blocked at the end of melt season, then your whole argument against the rowers is bogus.
And that is because they can be five different places at the same time, spread out by thousands of miles.
They skipped the Beaufort Sea because it is clogged with ice.
You are either a complete liar or a complete idiot. Which one is it?
What’s your point?
They are travelling the same 3000 km that Amundsen sailed between Pond Inlet and the McKenzie river, but are taking 2 years less time as compared to Amundsen.
They are doing in in a small non reinforced boat
They are rowing!
Nothing to see people, move on
Last year three guys sailed the NWP in a 31 foot fiberglass boat and they started from Denmark.
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If you believe the team can make it to Pond Inlet this year, you are full of wishful thinking:)
If the rowers wanted to have a chance to actually row through the area they should have waited until mid late August when maybe enough has melted back for an open channel.
So your incessant whining is stupid on arrival.
Peak ice melt is now through the next 15 days and after that the daily progression drops drastically. In 1958 freeze up throughout the entire Arctic Basin began August 19th and this year looks to be similar…
July 3rd, 2013 and heavy snow at 4100′ here in southern Alaska means our summer is losing steam:)
Reggie, since you claim, “they are rowing,” then it become incumbent upon you to prove your assertion with independently verifiable facts. As of right now, based on what appears here it seems you are hoping the ice melts rather than proving anything.
My comments went to the bore hole; will try again with only one link
http://is.gd/KQLlyi
All the bullshit between reggie and everyone else makes this site, or atleat its comment section unbearable to follow. I recommend you to ban him already or you will probably end up losing many “sane” readers along the time… Let´s be honest, his aim is to derail every conversation and make things up, why you letting him or anyone do that?
He should be ignored. He essentially says the same thing in every post, unless that changes just ignore him.
I must admit, although his childish antics used to be entertaining, his incessant posting of incorrect information is becoming a bore.
Reggie, sponsored by Brawndo, sponsored by Vallely must be stuck in the 1st of the 5 stages of grief when it comes to losing the credibility of himself and his dogma – denial.
Reminds me, try calling a warmist a denier, they blow their stack, come completely unglued. It’s funny to watch.
Reggie may be having problems with the graph tracking the zero line during the earlier part of the year when the Beaufort was 100% frozen and getting his head around the concept that when all of the sea is frozen over it isn’t possible to have the ice area over the long term average … either that or he is just being obtuse. If he doesn’t admit his error I would say or explain himself in detail then to the bin with him!
With the weather pattern we’re coming into, a lot more ice will be pushed into the shorelines of Canada, Alaska, and Siberia over the coming days.
To follow the progress of TheLastFirst Expedition, go to findmespot.com at:
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/gogl.jsp?glId=0iRTKLUZYPqVvo9fjJlhupoJlQx9xQgLG
Looks like they have been sitting on the river bank for a day waiting… for what? Hell to freeze over? Oh, I mean for the ice to melt? How many days before they float the river then row in the ice free sea to Tuktoyaktuk? It is going to be interesting… I bet they don’t make their stated goal of Pond Inlet by rowing and Skipper Vallely blames Global Warming?
WOW – it is July 5 in the afternoon and ThLastFirst rowboat GPS beacon indicates it as moving down (up to the North) the river… rowing?