Green shows ice growth since September 2012. Red shows ice loss.
Extent is 38% larger than the 2012 minimum. Extent will shrink some before mid-September, so the minimum coverage for 2015 will be a little lower than it is now.
Green shows ice growth since September 2012. Red shows ice loss.
Extent is 38% larger than the 2012 minimum. Extent will shrink some before mid-September, so the minimum coverage for 2015 will be a little lower than it is now.
See the red does show the glaciers are melting. Is that the area where the global alarmists are showing the pics and data?
The red in the Greenland Sea shows that more ice was being transported out of the Arctic in 2012 than it is this year.
Slightly off topic again but thanks Tony for helping offset the “Official” line by the agencies. Check this one out! http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-year-is-shaping-up-to-be-the-worlds-warmest-ever-recorded-2015-08-20?link=MW_home_latest_news
From where is NOAA getting their extreme data.?
I see nothing like it anywhere else.
!!!???
Direct satellite measurements tell a very different story,
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:2001/to:2016/plot/uah/from:2001/to:2016
https://dmhscratch1.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/woodfortrees-rssuah-2001-to-2016-aug-20-2015.png
henry@dmh
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:2001/to:2016/plot/uah/from:2001/to:2016/plot/rss/from:2001/to:2016/trend/plot/uah/from:2001/to:2016/trend
uah still confusing me
especially since my own data sets show cooling of -0.1K since 2000
UAH shows slight warming since 2001, RSS shows slight cooling
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:2001/to:2016/plot/uah/from:2001/to:2016/plot/uah/from:2001/to:2016/trend/plot/rss/from:2001/to:2016/trend
Henry, Its just that little pocket around 2002 -2004, where UAH was lower by about 0.1C, that is throwing things out.
If you did the trends from 2004, I suspect they would be much closer.
Note, this is the sort of variability I would expect from slightly different methods of data compilation…
My analysis has UAH year to date for 2015 in equal 5th place with 2005 with +0.191ºC anomaly.
This is compared to +0.563ºC for 1998 and +0.407ºC for 2010.
So if it is going to be the warmest, it will ONLY be in the massively politically manipulated and UHI/airport affected GISS or HadCrut non-data sets.
You have any doubt it will be done?
No doubt what-so-ever… by 0.00001C 🙂
This is the kind of dung we Yanks are fed on a regular basis.
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/08/20/feeling-the-heat-earth-in-july-was-hottest-month-on-record/21225261/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D-1759413210
Here are the current year to date average anomalies from UAH.
(by my flu bug calculations 🙁 ) Values in degree C.
1998.…..0.563
2010…..0.407
2002…..0.234
2007…..0.193
2005…..0.191
2015……0.191
The human race, as well as the biosphere, benefits from more open water in the Arctic, not less. It’s time to remove the warmist blinders on this issue.
https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/seeing-the-arctic-melt-without-warmist-glasses/
we are cooling TOA down and from top latitudes to lower latitudes.
besides the official sets I have 3 data sets of my own that show what is happening
chose the one data set that is wrong?
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1987/to:2016/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:2002/to:2016/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1987/to:2016/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:2002/to:2016/trend/plot/rss/from:1987/to:2016/plot/rss/from:2002/to:2016/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1987/to:2016/plot/hadsst2gl/from:2002/to:2016/trend/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/rss/from:1987/to:2002/trend/plot/esrl-amo/from:2002/to:2016/trend/plot/jisao-pdo/from:2002/to:2016/trend
The climate debate has stopped until mid September, all eyes are on the Arctic ice now.
All we, the skeptics, need is a little help from the Sun.
Na, better we had some help from ISIS in Paris then. OOps! That wasn’t very PC of me now was it?
Its a battle for who controls the world.. UN or ISIS !!
Could get interesting, because they are pretty much equally under-handed and vile.
I believe it’s more a battle of who “thinks” they will control the world. You kill UN people they run away. ISIS does the same. Neither can stand up to direct confrontation with real power and will to use it without significant support and the will of the existing powers that be.
ISIS = a Mossad + CIA operation to create the perfect enemy.
Hey Robertv! Most people have heard of cases where some local window repair guy is caught breaking windows to drum up business. And yet, the average person still refuses to believe that some lying politician will use the same trick. It is the old story of the Big Lie. Being basically honest, most people understand the temptation to tell little lies — but they just cannot bring themselves to see that some people will not hesitate to tell gigantic lies and to kill millions.
Boko Haram = Canadian + Shell Oil plot to keep oil prices high
9-11 = Mossad + Bush operation to go to war
WWII = Roosevelt + Stalin plot to divide the world
Chicago fire = Irish + Bovine operation to turn city into bogs and meadows
Civil War = British and French Industrialist plot to keep cotton prices low
ISIS conspiracy nuts = Stetson + ALCOA plot for new line of headgear
You just wonder how the most advanced weapon systems that ever existed are not capable to find these
https://cccounterterrorismcenter.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/ibt_s-islamic-youth-council-convoy.jpg
when infrared detectors can follow the path of a submarine.
exactly.
the weapon industry “needs an enemy” to justify continuing to exist….
the weapon industry is the biggest industry in the world….
exactly.
the weapon industry “needs an enemy” to justify continuing to exist….
the weapon industry is the biggest industry in the world….
***FLASH*** David Appell update ***FLASH***
Appell tries to tangle with Mark Steyn
http://www.steynonline.com/7120/when-science-journalists-attack
http://www.steynonline.com/7123/the-ugly-misogyny-of-big-climate
This is rich folks!
Guys,
We’ve wandered a long ways off the reservation (as interesting as some of
the above comments are) haven’t we.
HL
so what?
as long as it stays interesting
RobertV says
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/08/20/38-growth-in-arctic-sea-ice-since-september-2012/#comment-536090
Henry says
my comment was in reply to Robertv
exactly.
the weapon industry “needs an enemy” to justify continuing to exist….
the weapon industry is the biggest industry in the world….
If there is a growth in ice cover it must be due to the new and very dangerous warm ice which will kill us all if we do not pay our climate change taxes
here is another puzzle for you
Acc. to Bryan Walsh and Pres. Obama (Time Mag,Aug. 16 2015) to combat climate change we must replace fossil fueled power plants with nuclear plants. It is common knowledge that nuclear plants needs lots of cold water for cooling purposes. In fact the fish around the Koeberg plant here in South Africa have all perished. Nevermind that, the warmed water of the nuclear plant obviously finds its way into the oceans. Add some sunshine, and what do you get: more water vapor….Water vapor is a strong green house gas……….
and…..
there is nobody to solve this puzzle?
Where can I get some documentation for the green, yellow and red picture of the Arctic ice growth since 2012? Shared it and got a come back saying it wasn’t true.