I ride my bike up to NCAR several times a day, and today I went into the museum to see what kind of climate mischief they are up to. I wasn’t disappointed.
They have this wonderful map showing midwest winter warming from 1975 to 2007.
So how did NCAR choose 1975 for a start point? Their 1975 graph shows why. 1975 was the end of a strong 30 year cooling trend.
NCAR has since made their own 1945-1975 cooling completely disappear. Below is their current map.
What about the end point? Why did they choose 2007? Since 2007, midwest winter temperatures have plummeted, with record Great Lakes ice. They cherry-picked one small and totally misleading interval from 1975-2007.
There has been no long-term change in midwest winter temperature. NCAR’s fraudulent tactics would make Enron accountants blush.
Then they had Jerry Meehl claiming that we can “stabilize the climate” – on the 80th anniversary of the Dust Bowl (which left 80% of the US in drought) and America’s most powerful hurricane on Labor Day 1935.
Next up was this woman claiming that CaCO3 based sea creatures which evolved at 4,000 PPM CO2 – cant’t handle 400 PPM.
And for final laughs, here is Trenberth in his business attire.
The culture of climate fraud is so endemic, that most of these people are probably no longer even aware of the fact that their claims are meaningless.
NCAR used to pay me to improve their software. Now I provide that same valuable service for free.
It is great when you can compare and contrast NCARs own chart from before with what they are currently claiming. To me this shows plainly some combination of lying and/or incompetence.
Regards calcium carbonate shells the Cretaceous was named for the tremendous chalk deposits left by coccolitophores and other calcium carbonate shell makes. Temperatures then were so warm there were crocodiles in Greenalnd, palm stress on Antarctic shores and no ice caps to be found. Indeed as you say models suggest CO2 must have been near 4000 ppm . Over the last 60 million years chalk deposits have declined as CO2 decreased. Perhaps because when calcium carbonate shells are made they produce CO2.
I find mollusk fossils in rock all the time, that were formed when CO2 was 17 times higher than now:
http://www.hyzercreek.com/co2.jpg
Found that map/graphic online.
http://nca2009.globalchange.gov/agriculture
Site is no longer current, but there is the source of the map.
During July 1936, Chicago Midway Airport had 8 straight 100+ days with the hottest day being 109. Rockford, IL hit 112. Saginaw, in northern lower Michigan where there is seldom a 95 degree day went 104, 104, 105, 107, 107, 111. Salina, KS hit 118. So much for the so called “stable climate” of the good, old days!
More from the “stable climate” of 1935-1936
September 1935-Most intense US hurricane on record hits Florida Keys
February 1936-Coldest month on record over much of the northern US. Reached -60F in North Dakota, did not get about 0F for six straight weeks!
March 1936-Widespread flood catastrophe from Maine to DC and west to Ohio.
April 1936-Tornadoes on two consecutive days killed over 400 in Mississippi and Georgia.
July 1936-By far the worst heatwave in history of US and much of Canada. Several states reached 120 degrees with widespread 105-115 readings.
I visited NCAR last year. It’s an impressive facility – a veritable Disneyland for weather buffs. It’s a beautiful site too, nestled as it is in the hills of Boulder, Colorado. It’s also the epitome of an “ivory tower” fantasy world, funded of course by the taxpayers. I can see how the scientists, nestled in the dreamy comfort of the NCAR building, can fool themselves into thinking they and their government buddies can somehow “control” the climate. It laughable, but alas people at places like NCAR have devoted their careers to this religion…
As long as,
1. Dr. Ralph Cicerone, a climatologist, is President of the National Academy of Sciences, &
2. The US NAS reviews budgets of federal research agencies for the US Congress,
Government agencies will do what is required to get more federal fund.
hard to be famous and respected, and gets lots of government money
if all you do is collect and study weather data
gotta be saving the world
even if it doesn’t need to be saved
Idiots! the geese are here, maples are starting to turn plus 50 degree nights in upstate NY, no real summer
Scandinavia, Scotland and Iceland too.
http://notrickszone.com/2015/08/22/the-north-atlantic-ice-age-no-one-wants-to-acknowledge-record-snow-in-sweden-in-august-never-seen-so-much-snow-at-this-time/
It’s a crying shame to what has become of atmospheric research!
The NCAR folks would look much better in Orange 😉
We had frost on the ground sunday morning .didn’t hurt the tomatoes,but this is early for Gillette Wyoming.
Is the arctic sea ice still tracking 2006?
Looks like its going to end up in the same sort of area as the last several years (apart from the cyclone mashed 2012).
Not much change.. just like the overall global climate.
Certainly NO spiralling sea ice loss that would take it anywhere near the zero sea ice summer status of most of the first 3/4 of the Holocene.
Sure its below the maximums of the LIA .. but that is nothing but GOOD.
If you really want lots of cold and sea ice… move to northern Siberia… other wise stop your moronic complaining !!!
Looks like the skeptic-touted “arctic sea-ice recovery” has been pretty much cancelled. I expect they will not to try to discuss this as we’re getting close to the COP in Paris.
Looks like the alarmist “Arctic ice spiral” is totally destroyed..\
YET ANOTHER massively failed prediction.
I don’t expect to see this discussed in Paris at all.
And just remember.. by December, Arctic sea ice levels will be well on the way back up, because it will be coming into winter…. and a very cold one at that. 🙂
Hey, cfnt, have you managed to get some tax-payer funding to attend the Paris jaunt?
I hope you freeze your butt off ! 🙂
cfgjd: Temperatures obviously have nothing to do with it: http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2015.png
So buggar off!
try and engage your brain from time to time cfgjd. jut as the peak of arctic ice extent did not happen over time, nor the low point of 2012 ,any recovery will take several years of ups and downs to establish a trend.
tell us.. just generally…
…where do YOU choose to live?
This is how Mr. Goddard’s cherry-picked sea-ice metric for this season is doing now:
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current_new.png
Do you guys want to “hide the collapse”?
Well, is it gonna melt away in September as promised?
Hey cfgjd! I find it interesting how you can look at the graph you posted and see a collapse. No doubt you perhaps will wonder how I can look at the same graph and just see a slightly lower than average curve. Additionally, I see that the “average” is taken as 1979 – 2000. Isn’t that a bit of a cherry-pick? We know from historical accounts that the Arctic has a history of advances and retreats with a roughly 60 or 70 year cycle. We know that 1979 was the high point of the cycle, which means (when combined with the short, 22 year length of the baseline) that our “average” is biased to the high side. While it is still early, it looks to me like we are coming out of the lowest part of the cycle and for the last few years have began to creep back up.
Clearly we have better data since 1979, but we do, in fact have reasonably good data earlier than that — and we definitely have good data after 2000. Wouldn’t your argument that Arctic sea ice is collapsing be stronger if you used a longer base line and corrected for known cycles?
you showed the wrong date , but any how,the sarp drop in dmi extent is as much to do with compaction from high winds as melting. those same high winds are chilling the surface waters by mixing them with the cold near surface air .will be interesting to see this winters extent.
Anything but cooling the falls outside a standard deviation is a “collapse” to the real climate deniers. And if if falls below 2 standard deviations then it’s a “death spiral”.
Here’s another one, definitely not tracking 2006 any longer…
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/icecover/icecover_current.png
Yawn.. No Arctic sea ice spiral.. lets see where it bottoms out..
Certainly still LOTS of Arctic sea ice compared to most of the Holocene.
That’s because we are only a touch above the COLDEST period in the last 10,000 years.
Any warming out of the LIA has been TOTALLY BENEFICIAL..
I repeat.. what region do you choose to live in? Do you DARE to answer?
Siberia….. or somewhere warmer?
Otherwise your agonising about Arctic sea ice makes you a total and absolute HYPOCRITE !!
crickets chirping… soooooo funny !!!
Looks like the skeptic-touted sea ice recovery might die this summer….that would mean that there are no obstacles for the DEATH SPIRAL to continue.
Very odd spiral.. not going anywhere..
Methinks you don’t even know what a spiral is. !
But then .. ignorance was always your genre.
I repeat.. where.. approximately do you choose to live.
or are you TOO COWARDLY to answer?
And what is this mythical death spiral you are yapping on about….
…. do you mean the return to the conditions of the first 3/4 of the Holocene OPTIMUM ?
the death spiral hypothesis has already been falsified cfgjd, only an idiot would dispute that.
cfgd amply illustrates the absolute moronic stupidity of the average AGW alarmist twerp.
He relies on a short period of warming out of the COLDEST period of the current interglacial, trying to push forward a childish scare that low Arctic sea ice is something to be concerned about.
IT IS NOT….
The BIG CONCERN for anyone living in that region is the strong probability that Arctic sea ice levels will start to climb again.
Low Arctic sea ice levels would be an ABSOLUTE BOON for those local inhabitants
….problem is……. its just NOT HAPPENING !!!
The denial is strong in here…
After the polar bears die off their white fur won’t reflect all that sunlight and the albedo of earth will decrease, warming earth even more. It’s a death spiral.
I demand funding to investigate the possibility of mounting white shag carpet on floats tethered in the Arctic Ocean. Anything to save the planet!
Because the arctic ocean gets so much sunlight. Better bring Coppertone.
Hmmm…. I wonder if Coppertone can kick in some funding? Maybe they can develop a special night-time sunblock that will last a full Arctic winter!
Yes, yours is strong.
The only denial is from you. The temps, both atmospheric and water are well within the usual range if not a little colder and thus once again the CAWG hypothesis has been falsified.
I came late. Are we talking about the death spiral of cfgjdxyz’s reasoning facilities?
i think that would be correct cw.
Yea that’s for our local denier of reality.
the stupid is strong in cfgjd.:)
100% stupid.
Yes, we are all like frogs in a pot that is coming to a slow boil. Only problem is that the human frogs here in the US keep jumping into an even hotter pot, moving in vaste numbers to Florida, Arizona, Texas and California. When the frogs jump back to places like Minnesota and Maine from those warm states, I will start taking global warming seriously.
When the data actually starts showing a warming winter trend (except California), most people would consider that climate change of the global warming sort is happening. Then the next step is “is this human caused?”.
The real problem is that NH winters are cooling, not warming at present.
And a real problem it is. We need more cooling like a rusty nail in gluteus maximus.
What’s wrong with these people? I’d be happy if they were right once and it actually warmed.
A lot of people would actually be happy if the global warming predictions were happening. Especially that “milder winters with less snow” part.
cfgjd says:
August 27, 2015 at 11:05 am
If global average surface temperature controls sea ice, then why is Antarctic ice setting record after record? Must be because GASTA is cooling, right? As in fact the satellites and balloons show to be happening.
Or could it be that sea temperature, winds and currents have a much greater effect on sea ice than air temperature?
Antarctic sea ice has five times the effect on planetary albedo of Arctic ice because it extends so much farther toward the equator.
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