NY Times Climate Science : Off By Six Orders Of Magnitude

Twenty one years ago, the New York Times announced that the North Pole was ice-free for the first time in fifty million years.

“The North Pole is melting.

The thick ice that has for ages covered the Arctic Ocean at the pole has turned to water, recent visitors there reported yesterday. At least for the time being, an ice-free patch of ocean about a mile wide has opened at the very top of the world, something that has presumably never before been seen by humans and is more evidence that global warming may be real and already affecting climate.

The last time scientists can be certain the pole was awash in water was more than 50 million years ago.”

Ages-Old Icecap at North Pole Is Now Liquid, Scientists Find – The New York Times

The North Pole was ice-free in 1958.

Also in 1958, the New York Times reported that Arctic sea ice was two meters thick.

The Changing Face of the Arctic; The Changing Face of the Arctic – The New York Times

And now in 2021 Arctic sea ice is two meters thick.


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9 Responses to NY Times Climate Science : Off By Six Orders Of Magnitude

  1. Conrad Ziefle says:

    They have no idea what an order of magnitude is. Nor do most of their readers.

    • Cryptozzzz says:

      Well at least one reader doesn’t! 50 million years vs 50 years, looks like about 6 orders of magnitude to me.

  2. Charles Straw says:

    A newly retired friend of mine has happily and virulently sucked up and regurgitated every Covid pandemic myth and factoid over the past year…and now apparently (after buying a condo in Mexico) he wants to devote the rest of his life to fighting Climate Change

    He refuses to respond civilly to even gentle debate or questioning about his heroic plans. So I just shake my head and change the subject. I mean, if I wanted to save the world I would be more than happy to explain my position. But him? Nope

    Some of this can be chalked up to NEOTONY, which is when juvenile characteristcs are carried through to adulthood. A lot of people can hold a job and balance their checkbook, but at heart they’re still children. Not a good trait if you’re building solar panels in blizzard zones

  3. Gamecock says:

    ‘The last time scientists can be certain the pole was awash in water was more than 50 million years ago.’ – John Noble Wilford, NYT

    Looking at the linked article from 2000, it is clear Wilford was handed a press release from an expedition to the North Pole, and wrote his story from it. The Paper of Record is written by journalists. Not scientists.

    Even NYT knew it was wrong.

    [‘Correction: Aug. 29, 2000

    A front-page article on Aug. 19 and a brief report on Aug. 20 in The Week in Review about the sighting of open water at the North Pole misstated the normal conditions of the sea ice there. A clear spot has probably opened at the pole before, scientists say, because about 10 percent of the Arctic Ocean is clear of ice in a typical summer.

    The reports also referred incompletely to the link between the open water and global warming. The lack of ice at the pole is not necessarily related to global warming.’]

    You can’t get your science from journalists. But most of what people hear as “science” is journalists. “Scientists say” is actually “journalists paraphrasing what scientists say.”

  4. stpaulchuck says:

    with proper accounting for virus cases and eventually with death certificates done the way they are for all other cases of viral infection the media need another screaming headline to sell views and clicks.

    So, we’re back to the ‘climate crisis!!’ I see more and more nonsense from the Klimate Kaliphate every day now.

  5. CWinNY says:

    The Soviet icebreaker “Arktika” sailed over the North Pole in 1977. They left Murmansk and sailed to the pole at an average speed of advance of 15 knots (or so). That speed of advance is only achievable in ice-free waters.

  6. G W Smith says:

    The New York Times can print anything they want. It’s a private newspaper. Thank God no one is forced to read it. But advocates and madmen would like to change that.

  7. stpaulchuck says:

    any lie that supports the scam is no problem for the Treason Times to print. Although I put some of it down to ignorant and lazy reporters and editors.
    “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity” – Hanlon’s razor

  8. Joe Duck says:

    What a bunch of BS – Scientists don’t have a clue as to when the North Pole was last Ice free – Not a clue! It might have been liquid 500 years ago, not 50 million years ago like they claim. They Don’t Know!

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