I don’t give a rat’s a$$ if he used a umbrella. Screw him! What? Is this a Polanski moment? It wasn’t rape rape? Where’s Whoopi? He’s got U.S. secrets? Good. Send him to one of our places overseas where we don’t hold enemy combatants. Maybe an unprotected cattle inserted in the proper location will change his mind about what he thinks he can do with impunity and what he really can’t.
Hackers disable Swedish prosecutor’s website – The Local
“The website of the Swedish prosecutor’s office pursuing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange came under cyber attack on Tuesday in the latest salvo in a campaign by online supporters who have also struck PayPal and the Swiss Post Office bank.” http://www.thelocal.se/30682/20101208/
I’m not 100% on board with the WikiLeaks project so I’m not a fan of Assange per se.
However, on the news last night his barrister said that he (Assange) had not seen the charges against him even though he was detained without bail. As far as my rudimentary history goes, I thought this was illegal since Magna Carta in 1215 (except in special “reds under the bed” situations like the recent terrorism “laws”).
It may be something to do with it being a European arrest warrant. If so, it seems to be another reason for the UK to disengage Europe. We don’t have much of a constitution and no meaningful Bill of Rights so it annoys to think we’re surrendering our laws on liberty to the European Kommisssars as Monckton like to describe them.
Looks like a big set up to close him down. Her word against his word. I hope it’s not true, but it looks very convenient to shut him down. I guess Al Gore got out of it, didn’t the same thing happen to him with the massage lady?
Assange has been refused bail and sent to Wandsworth Prison.
Deemed a flight risk – he entered Britain however there is no record of him in any immigration entry point. False passport? Evading entry controls? This maybe more of a reason to keep him under lock and key – border violation?
A game changer as far as criminal charges are concerned.
Funny thing is, I remember when I went from UK to Iceland, nobody was at the Iceland immigration, the whole plane just walked thru, I guess it’s part of the EU, maybe he just came from one of these countries they don’t bother stamping passports lol
Since wikileaks couldn’t be bothered about the climategate e-mails, only jumping on the bandwagon well after other sites had the whole lot online – and then lying about this on TV, I think Assange is by no means the knight in shining armour he and his disciples want us to think he is.
I couldn’t care less about what he does in his bedroom, but his very one-sided choice of ‘leaking’ makes the whole thing highly suspicious.
Firstly, the leaks:
I think its refreshing to get to know what the US embassies are actually communicating. In comparison to the people criticizing Assange, I do not have a double standard. I believe the leaking of the Climategate e-mails was a good thing, and I also believe the latest leak to be a good thing. I am an honest person, and I believe in total honesty in these matters. This is the way I live my life, and I believe it is the only way one can strive for a better world.
Secondly, Assange:
The way Assange case has been handled stands in stark contrast to any other swedish court-cases. Far worse crimes have gone unadressed, with respect to the international apprehention order, when perpetrators has left Sweden. Now we are faced with a hopeless “rape”-charge, which under no circumstances (read: usually) will stand up in trial. Why does the Swedish prosecutors go so far in this case? The answer is obvious: the rape-charge is only the means to get to the goal. Getting rid of Assange.
PS: Some people should look up “double standard” in an encyclopedia
I agree that the charges against Assange do not merit the notoriety. However, he made the egotistical mistake of basically “rubbing their noses in it”, and I think that is why they are out to make an example of him.
Interesting, The comments are amussing and in some cases very telling.
1) The leaked comments regarding what embassy staffers et al reported home regarding their personl views of foriegn potentates… It is their job ! The are responsible for making sure the state dept has accurate info on everybody they come into contact with. If our embassies (Canada) do not have similar files I would fire the staff.
2) Those files are classified secret for 2 reasons 1) to avoid embarasment 2) becasue they can
2) Some of the files release contaioned names and locations of people who are at risk of being jailed or worse because of their activities, some of which may have been at the request of the American govt ( this last is entirely speculation ). Those files are classified secret because people could die if they get out.
3) According to a column I read this morning, the women who reported the assaults have tried for several weeks to get Assange to take a STD test , he had shut off his cell due to security issues. They went to the police after they failed to get hold of him. The timeing is suspect and I expect a cash donation and a test will remove the complaints. The Europeanm warrant was a little overkill and I expect it was at the request of the American govt who want him where they can find him for the extradition papers .
Persoanl opinion , this guy has a god complex that could give Napoleon lessons , what ever he chooses to do is right . He is going to get an unpleasant surprise.
For people whining about a double standard, mine is a decidedly singular standard. He crossed the line when he cropped weapons out of insurgents hands to make it appear our soldiers were killing unarmed civilians. Screw him. The difference between correspondence between emissaries and scientists. I believe our emissaries shouldn’t be totally candid with other dignitaries. But only allow them to know what we wish them to know. Quite the opposite with scientists. More, Assange’s release may jeopardize lives while FOI’s release probably saved lives. Also, Assange’s releases seem to wish to cast the U.S. and her allies in the worst possible light. …..Screw him.
Even if the connection between the sexual offence alligations in Sweden and the publications of all documents indicate a set-up, I can assure you, this is not the case. First of all, to persuade both a Swedish prosecutor and two different courts is almost impossible. And the two women has been big fans of JA for a long time, so a set-up from them is also really a long-shot.
The issue here is instead the fact that the prosecutor didn’t consider all possibilities to question JA before he left Sweden, and even approved he did. During the preliminary investigation she didn’t do her work properly, I think. Probably she and her staff went home at 5 pm and didn’t realise the consequences for JA. Now she has to question him, but isn’t sure herself it will even be a prosecution (she actually said that in a TVNews interview).
Actually it can be good for JA to be sent to Sweden, because this sexual abbuse case has first priority over any extradition claims from the US. Also, before Sweden can send him to USA, a Swedish court not only has to approve, they also has to ask UK authorities for permission, because he came from there. This means that two countries have to approve.
If the Swedish case is dropped, and JA is a free man, Sweden has to wait 2 weeks before they don’t have to ask UK for permission. This case might actually be a good insurance for JA.
If he still is in Sweden, 2 weeks after acquittal or served time, not only has a Swedish court to approve the US claims (which he of course can appeal to higher court), but even the Swedish gouverment has to approve. They can actually change the court’s decision, and in the name of humanity deside to not extradite him. But, and this is important, the gouverment can’t change the court’s decision the other way around. Also, political or military reasons are not enough to extradite him from Sweden. And if the death penalty is even mentioned, it’s out of question.
These all issues and claims will take over 18 months, and by then the US alligations will be much more modest, or even dropped.
Time and many juridically processes are Julian Assange’s best friends right now.
Who’s the woman anyway?
I don’t give a rat’s a$$ if he used a umbrella. Screw him! What? Is this a Polanski moment? It wasn’t rape rape? Where’s Whoopi? He’s got U.S. secrets? Good. Send him to one of our places overseas where we don’t hold enemy combatants. Maybe an unprotected cattle inserted in the proper location will change his mind about what he thinks he can do with impunity and what he really can’t.
lol, not cattle, cattle prod
This begs for one liners.
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/woman-in-wikileaks-rape-smear-campaign-speaks-out-20100824-13kl8.html
http://valleywag.gawker.com/5619931/meet-wikileaks-founders-alleged-sex-victim
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40554529/ns/today-entertainment/
Doesn’t the USA rape people at the airport all day long?
I mean it’s totally out of control!
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/baywatch_babe_gets_body_scan_QL8764IcAm6qturHlWf4iO
And then you die of cancer later after being raped by the rapiscan machine
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2010-12-06-tsa-xray-inside_N.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq6-udaeWms
Rapiscan and kids
Hackers disable Swedish prosecutor’s website – The Local
“The website of the Swedish prosecutor’s office pursuing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange came under cyber attack on Tuesday in the latest salvo in a campaign by online supporters who have also struck PayPal and the Swiss Post Office bank.”
http://www.thelocal.se/30682/20101208/
I’m not 100% on board with the WikiLeaks project so I’m not a fan of Assange per se.
However, on the news last night his barrister said that he (Assange) had not seen the charges against him even though he was detained without bail. As far as my rudimentary history goes, I thought this was illegal since Magna Carta in 1215 (except in special “reds under the bed” situations like the recent terrorism “laws”).
It may be something to do with it being a European arrest warrant. If so, it seems to be another reason for the UK to disengage Europe. We don’t have much of a constitution and no meaningful Bill of Rights so it annoys to think we’re surrendering our laws on liberty to the European Kommisssars as Monckton like to describe them.
Looks like a big set up to close him down. Her word against his word. I hope it’s not true, but it looks very convenient to shut him down. I guess Al Gore got out of it, didn’t the same thing happen to him with the massage lady?
http://www.examiner.com/law-enforcement-in-national/al-gore-accusation-investigation-of-sexual-assault-cases
How come Al Gore had bail?
I guess Gore wasn’t up against all of the major governments.
Assange’s brief did mention that the timing of the warrant was suspicious given WikiLeaks recent revelations.
I guess Gore went all quiet after the massage thing happened. Must be the technique they use to make people go quiet?
Assange has been refused bail and sent to Wandsworth Prison.
Deemed a flight risk – he entered Britain however there is no record of him in any immigration entry point. False passport? Evading entry controls? This maybe more of a reason to keep him under lock and key – border violation?
A game changer as far as criminal charges are concerned.
Funny thing is, I remember when I went from UK to Iceland, nobody was at the Iceland immigration, the whole plane just walked thru, I guess it’s part of the EU, maybe he just came from one of these countries they don’t bother stamping passports lol
BTW the climategate hackers are back lol?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/hackers-attack-swedish-site-of-assange-rape-claim-lawyers/story-e6frf7jx-1225967905356
http://warincontext.org/2010/12/07/visa-and-mastercard-are-happy-to-transfer-donations-to-the-ku-klux-klan-but-not-wikileaks/
Check this out, you can donate to the KKK, but not wikileaks ???
That’s hilarious – in a grotesque kind of way.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336291/Wikileaks-Julian-Assanges-2-night-stands-spark-worldwide-hunt.html#ixzz17PsSFVeE
One night stands look pretty risky, he should have got a massage instead?
remember, for all his crimes, it was tax evasion that Capone was finally put away for.
This guy’s a leech that has spent his life taking from the rest of humanity. Of course even Charles Manson has people that think he is a hero.
And we wonder how climatologists have been able to push their fairy tales!
Since wikileaks couldn’t be bothered about the climategate e-mails, only jumping on the bandwagon well after other sites had the whole lot online – and then lying about this on TV, I think Assange is by no means the knight in shining armour he and his disciples want us to think he is.
I couldn’t care less about what he does in his bedroom, but his very one-sided choice of ‘leaking’ makes the whole thing highly suspicious.
Firstly, the leaks:
I think its refreshing to get to know what the US embassies are actually communicating. In comparison to the people criticizing Assange, I do not have a double standard. I believe the leaking of the Climategate e-mails was a good thing, and I also believe the latest leak to be a good thing. I am an honest person, and I believe in total honesty in these matters. This is the way I live my life, and I believe it is the only way one can strive for a better world.
Secondly, Assange:
The way Assange case has been handled stands in stark contrast to any other swedish court-cases. Far worse crimes have gone unadressed, with respect to the international apprehention order, when perpetrators has left Sweden. Now we are faced with a hopeless “rape”-charge, which under no circumstances (read: usually) will stand up in trial. Why does the Swedish prosecutors go so far in this case? The answer is obvious: the rape-charge is only the means to get to the goal. Getting rid of Assange.
PS: Some people should look up “double standard” in an encyclopedia
I agree that the charges against Assange do not merit the notoriety. However, he made the egotistical mistake of basically “rubbing their noses in it”, and I think that is why they are out to make an example of him.
Then charge him with espionage. Holding someone without bail for improper condom usage is an incredible violation.
Interesting, The comments are amussing and in some cases very telling.
1) The leaked comments regarding what embassy staffers et al reported home regarding their personl views of foriegn potentates… It is their job ! The are responsible for making sure the state dept has accurate info on everybody they come into contact with. If our embassies (Canada) do not have similar files I would fire the staff.
2) Those files are classified secret for 2 reasons 1) to avoid embarasment 2) becasue they can
2) Some of the files release contaioned names and locations of people who are at risk of being jailed or worse because of their activities, some of which may have been at the request of the American govt ( this last is entirely speculation ). Those files are classified secret because people could die if they get out.
3) According to a column I read this morning, the women who reported the assaults have tried for several weeks to get Assange to take a STD test , he had shut off his cell due to security issues. They went to the police after they failed to get hold of him. The timeing is suspect and I expect a cash donation and a test will remove the complaints. The Europeanm warrant was a little overkill and I expect it was at the request of the American govt who want him where they can find him for the extradition papers .
Persoanl opinion , this guy has a god complex that could give Napoleon lessons , what ever he chooses to do is right . He is going to get an unpleasant surprise.
Jailed for not using a condom.
Boy, looks like Ted Turner is really serious about his one child only statement!
For people whining about a double standard, mine is a decidedly singular standard. He crossed the line when he cropped weapons out of insurgents hands to make it appear our soldiers were killing unarmed civilians. Screw him. The difference between correspondence between emissaries and scientists. I believe our emissaries shouldn’t be totally candid with other dignitaries. But only allow them to know what we wish them to know. Quite the opposite with scientists. More, Assange’s release may jeopardize lives while FOI’s release probably saved lives. Also, Assange’s releases seem to wish to cast the U.S. and her allies in the worst possible light. …..Screw him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n552gP9X40
Being a Swede myself, I must mention this:
Even if the connection between the sexual offence alligations in Sweden and the publications of all documents indicate a set-up, I can assure you, this is not the case. First of all, to persuade both a Swedish prosecutor and two different courts is almost impossible. And the two women has been big fans of JA for a long time, so a set-up from them is also really a long-shot.
The issue here is instead the fact that the prosecutor didn’t consider all possibilities to question JA before he left Sweden, and even approved he did. During the preliminary investigation she didn’t do her work properly, I think. Probably she and her staff went home at 5 pm and didn’t realise the consequences for JA. Now she has to question him, but isn’t sure herself it will even be a prosecution (she actually said that in a TVNews interview).
Actually it can be good for JA to be sent to Sweden, because this sexual abbuse case has first priority over any extradition claims from the US. Also, before Sweden can send him to USA, a Swedish court not only has to approve, they also has to ask UK authorities for permission, because he came from there. This means that two countries have to approve.
If the Swedish case is dropped, and JA is a free man, Sweden has to wait 2 weeks before they don’t have to ask UK for permission. This case might actually be a good insurance for JA.
If he still is in Sweden, 2 weeks after acquittal or served time, not only has a Swedish court to approve the US claims (which he of course can appeal to higher court), but even the Swedish gouverment has to approve. They can actually change the court’s decision, and in the name of humanity deside to not extradite him. But, and this is important, the gouverment can’t change the court’s decision the other way around. Also, political or military reasons are not enough to extradite him from Sweden. And if the death penalty is even mentioned, it’s out of question.
These all issues and claims will take over 18 months, and by then the US alligations will be much more modest, or even dropped.
Time and many juridically processes are Julian Assange’s best friends right now.