This is where progressives want to take us, with their pens and their phones and the EPA.
Disrupting the Borg is expensive and time consuming!
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Chop wood – chips fly !
Then again, the Chinese and the Russians were pikers. Genghis Khan was the greenest of them all:
http://wwf.panda.org/?199285/Genghis-Khan—the-greenest-invader-in-history
How these people conflate the worst multiple mass genocides in history with somehow vaguely helping the planet is repulsive.
It has been noted that entire swaths of earth are scrubbed clean of anything resembling civilization since Gengis Khan’s invasions. Afghanistan is one such place – to this day a no-man’s land of uncivilized madness.
God help us that there are people and groups (WWF) in our day and age glorifying such horrors. Makes me sick to my stomach.
I think Islam has a lot to do with the problems in the Khan areas.
http://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Mongols-embrace-Islam
Wellington, you must give old Genghis his dues. As National Geographic points out Genghis Kahn toiled long, hard, often, and way into the night to rectify his ill effects on the Earth’s population. He did this despite what the Tea Party candidate Todd Akin said about fathering children. Currently in the areas of Genghis Kahn’s former empire a full 8% of all the men and boys alive today carry DNA markers that proves that these males are likely direct descendants of Genghis Kahn. This says nothing about how many female descendants the old boy left laying around. This proves that although Genghis Kahn had the Ruin part of ancient warfare honed to a T, he certainly didn’t neglect the Rape part either.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0214_030214_genghis.html
hey it worked well in russia , they would dump all the seed and fertilizer at one end of the field at the required date the central planners agreed on and wow perfect crops.
They just forgot the fuel and spare parts for the tractors is all. But what the hey, a central planners got to eat too.
The Central Planners eat first…
Ooops… forgot tractor parts? Oh well, we’ll do better next year.
Here are a few items from an old Time Line I put together outlining the deliberate destruction of independent farmers since the ‘sucessful Collective Farm Policy of the Communists. (It is thirty pages long so I really do mean a ‘few’ The links are old so may no longer work)
1932 to 1937 “The Collective Farm Policy was a terrible struggle, Ten million died. It was fearful. Four years it lasted. It was absolutely necessary.” Joseph Stalin click
1934, “[Our] future is becoming visible in Russia.” Assistant Secretary of Agriculture Rexford Tugwell click
1942 A group, called the Committee for Economic Development, is officially established as a sister organization to the Council on Foreign Relations. CED influenced US domestic policies in much the same way that the CFR has influenced the nation’s foreign policies
1945 In a number of reports written over a few decades, CED recommended that farming “resources” — that is, farmers — be reduced. In its 1945 report “Agriculture in an Expanding Economy,” CED complained that “the excess of human resources engaged in agriculture is probably the most important single factor in the ‘farm problem'” and describes how agricultural production can be better organized to fit to business needs – CED and it’s History of ridding the US of farmers
1948: failed attempt to create an International Trade Organization
1948 to 1994: the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) click
1960’s HACCP (Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point system) is developed by Pillsbury.
Pathogen Reduction/Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point (HACCP) Systems rule, on July 25, 1996 Under the HACCP rule, industry is responsible for assessing potential food safety hazards and systematically preventing and controlling those hazards. FSIS is responsible for verifying that establishments’ HACCP systems are working click
1961 PVP is the Plant Variety Protection: The International Union for the Protection of New Varieties of Plants: Gave seed companies a monopoly on only the commercial multiplication and the marketing of seeds. Farmers remained free to save seed from their own harvest to plant in the following year, and other breeders could freely use any variety, protected or not, to develop a new one. click
1980 the Supreme Court decision in Diamond v. Chakrabarthy, 447 U.S. 303 enabled living organisms to be patented click
1991 PVP monopoly has applied to seed multiplication and also to the harvest and sometimes the final product as well. Previously unlimited right of farmers to save seed for the following year’s planting has been changed into an optional exception. Only if national government allows, can farm-saved seed still be used, and a royalty has to be paid to the seed company even for seeds grown on-farm. click
1993 FAO prepares “the Global Strategy for the Management of Farm Animal Genetic Resources” click
1993 Published International HACCP guidelines developed by the Codex Alimentarius in, a joint Programme of the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)and the World Health Organization (WHO). revised in 1997. click
1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) click
1995 World Trade Organization (WTO) formed. Former Cargill Vice-President, Dan Amstutz, drafts the original text of the Uruguay Round Agreement on Agriculture. click
September 1995, Catherine Bertini, Executive Director of the United Nations World Food Program, and former U.S. Assistant Secretary of Agriculture, stated “Food is power. We use it to change behavior. Some may call that bribery. We do not apologize.” UN’s 4th World Conference on Women: Beijing, China. click
September, 1995, USDA’s Food Safety & Inspection Service presented a 600-page document Farm-To-Table – control of every step in the food chain from production to home preparation. click
July 1996 Major re-structuring of USDA food policies: Pathogen Reduction/Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point (HACCP) Systems rule, click
1996/ The destruction of animals, Disposal procedures and Decontamination operation procedures published click
Efforts of Food inspectors to bring problems with HACCP ignored by USDA management
Apr 17, 2008 Testimony:Mr. Stan Painter, Chairman, National Joint Council of Food Inspection Locals: December 2004 Union president Stan Painter receive reports from union member that SRM regulations are not uniformly enforced. Painter writes to the Assistant FSIS Administrator for Field Operation about enforcement problem. USDA responses by placed Painter on disciplinary investigation status and contacts the USDA Office of Inspector General about filing criminal charges.
Gail, as always I learn from you so
Do you have any info on Audubon Society Report of so many bird species on the way to extinction due to climate change? I have the report, but I have not traced in backwords
to find the origins of the study or its validity, — which I am sure is suspect.
I do not but Willis did a good article over at WUWT Where Are The Corpses?
It is typical Progressive lying. Models all the way down.
Steve, my last comment – a time line on farming regulation by the UN/WTO got booted into the ether.
There must be a reason other than the Solar Flares.
“If they would rather die, . . . they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”
? Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol
I wish that I could properly introduce all the people who are nostalgic for the farm life of bygone eras to the reality of what a hard scrabble existence it was. For instance when my mother and her brothers were children farmers in many parts of the nation planted corn or maze plants 3 feet or almost a meter apart. Furthermore, all the dirt between each corn stalk as well as the row middle had to be cultivated by hand with a goose necked hoe. I can guarantee everyone within the reach of this post that once you had first hand knowledge of some real organic, natural dirt farming that the United States Marine Corps, the WWF, and the NFL combined couldn’t pry the RoundUp or GMO seeds out of your callused hands.
Yes there are a lot of rent seeking never do wells but the vast majority are play farmers who are only “farming” to get out of paying taxes, mostly property or land taxes. Why else would the median net income of the bottom 50% of farmers be $2,000 in the red year after year?
Those ‘play’ farmers still sell product and in their millions are competing with the rent seekers and the Ag business cartel.
You are also completely missing the point. The demise of the American farmer was not because they CHOSE to leave the farm but because they were INTENTIONALLY FORCED OUT. I suggest you read Nicole’s article she has five pages of references to back up this point.
As Sec of Ag Earl Butz stated so very bluntly ‘Get Big or Get Out!’
I am not being critical of Mr. Brannan, the person, when I say that. I am convinced that, given time, a new Secretary of Agriculture, under a Republican administration, would be subject to identically the same temptations and the same pressures to use the system just at [sic] it is now being used… the temptation to use this set-up for political purposes is, I think, almost beyond the power of human resistance for anyone who operates in the political environment in which cabinet members must function.
https://fairfoodfieldnotes.wordpress.com/tag/earl-butz/
What is interesting is Earl Butz and Democratic Senator Birch Bayh were pals with my ex father-in-law and used to sleep off their [college] drunks under the kitchen table of the head of the Democratic Party of Indiana…
The ‘play’ farmers are not necessarily ‘organic farmers’ not using 18th century equipment, (I have two tractors sitting in my yard) AND the “$2,000 in the red year after year” means they are subsidizing YOUR DINNER out of THEIR POCKET. Is it any wonder with a typical attitude like yours that farmers now say Let Them Eat Grass!
Most of these ‘play’ farmers are middle class professionals farming because they LIKE to farm and do not want their kids growing up idle in the city or suburbs. The question of course becomes WHY are they “$2,000 in the red year after year.”
The answer is Monopsony, only one buyer and many sellers so the buyer gets to set the price and the price in this case is set below production cost. The corporate farms are ‘farming subsidizes’ that the little guys mis out on. This price fixing happens over the entire length of the food chain from the high price of seed and fertilizer to the below production cost paid for the farmer’s final product to the high price charged in the grocery store. The only one not losing is the Ag cartel.
Now add in the banking crisis, foreclosuregate, and the Army Corp of Engineers intentionally flooding midwest farmland that was then snapped up by George Soros…. ( Farmers are now suing the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers BTW) and you have good farmland shifted FROM the middle class to the elite. After the shift in land ownership we get the Biofuel bill and corn prices soar… Quelle Surprise!
Fast facts on the corporate consolidation of industrial agriculture (June 2003)
204(DOT)200.203.35/pdf/indust_ag-fas=_facts_consol.pdf
Agriculture and Monopoly capital gives a good history of this Monopsony problem starting with the Railroad barons.
“More than 120 years ago, rural Grangers and Populists were warning about concentrations of business power” Unfortunately as only 1 to 2% of the population farmers political teeth have been effectively pulled. But some farmers are still trying to fight ” for fair, open and competitive markets” — Organization for Competitive Markets: Speak Your Piece: Antitrust Law Perverted
competitivemarkets(DOT)com/speak-your-piece-antitrust-law-perverted/
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The corporate consolidation of food is world wide levering off the USA farm subsidizes to bankrupt peasant farmers. This was INTENTIONAL!
This SHOULD scare any person with two brain cells.
I am so glad to see this posted with links and you are 100% correct on all points. I have been following this for several years and trying to warn people. I did not know that in the US we cannot save seed? Or is that coming? I do know that once they get the water it is game over seed or no seed. I just cannot convince anyone that is the DC goal. Love the factual Soros connection because it is true, true, true.
Thanks. The food issue is where I came in to the mess and realized we had a toxic government.
The seed issue has to do with the new Food Safety Modernization Act. You can save seed but you have to CLEAN IT per FDA regs. so it is cheaper to just buy it. (You should check that since my knowledge was from the bill not the final law.)
Ah ha ha … you make some good points…
For many “Farmers” this is just a hobby and tax offset. Most all folks today would never, never last on a Farm… its not Nostalgia.. it sucks… and of course Gail makes some good points .. economics and Big Agro forced out small farms in various ways… big central planning hasn’t worked in places like Africa…
There are “givens” within how a government is run.
If you let 350 million people make decisions for themselves, you will likely have 350 million right decisions. If you have one stooge in Washington make a decision for 350 million people you will likely have 350 million upset citizens. No one man can make one correct decision that fits the citizenry of a highly populated country. The decisions necessary to run a country will be slow coming, hard to implement, unlikely to have the resources available to carry it out, and distribute incorrectly.
The “given” is that Socialism is a failure. It has been a failure wherever it has been tried. Central planning does not work and only ignorant egoists would believe otherwise. Socialism will always fail and yet there are those out there who believe they know better. And that is why we now have Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. If these same social issues would have been dealt with using the principals of Hayek, we would all be better off and healthier today.
Russia, Cambodia and China starved millions upon millions of people using central planning. But that is where the Democrats would have this government operating. FDR, LBJ, and Obama pushed hard for central planning. A complicit media has worked hard to lionize these socialist presidents and to make their failures appear as successes.
In the end, their policies have/will doom millions of to endless poverty and possibly starvation.
Actually the ‘Progressives’ aka Fabian Socialists have shifted their business plan after their ‘experiment’ with the Soviet Union crashed and burned. And make no mistake it was an experiment by the Bankster/Progressives who funded it.
The Fabian Socialists founded the London School of Economics. Their newest try at ruling the world is “The Third Way” a new name for Fascism since Hitler and Mussolini are now associated with the name leaving a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. The idea is to pass off Fascism as some sort of ‘centralist’ Capitalism which it decidedly is NOT. The Third Way is a nasty collusion between Big Business and Big Government aka Fascism, sound familiar?
I strongly suggest reading. E.M. Smith’s short explanation of “Evil Socialism” vs “Evil Capitalism” His degree is in economics and he does a good job of explaining the different economic systems concisely.
The reason you should pay attention to the Third Way is because the
Main proponents of the “Third Way” [are] Blair and Clinton –
I mentioned the collusion between Big Business and Big Government? Well here is an example
Do not forget that Bill Clinton is the guy who sold out the USA link
George Soros is an alumni of this School also?
Yes,
Education: Bachelor of Arts / Science, London School of Economics
David Rockefeller is also a graduate.
Socialism is a political and economic system. Capitalism is not. Capitalism is part of socialism but practiced by the state. Capitalism is part of every political system. But in the political system of democracy where freedom flourishes capitalism is practiced by the people. It is a common mistake to say that capitalism is an economic system or a political system.
I’ve always thought of Socialism and Capitalism as economic systems. With Democracy and Totalitarianism (Despotism) as the political systems. The political systems set the rules that the economic systems have to work within. Some political systems can ratchet up the rules so that you move from socialism to communism. Or capitalism can move between laissez faire and socialism. Democrats prefer to move the economic system to the socialism side of the boundary and republicans towards the laissez faire side. Yet socialism has a proven record of failure.
The definition of Capitalism changes with who you ask
Mises:
Ayn Rand:
Karl Marx:
The equating of Labor time with value is where Karl Marx goes completely off the rails. There is ZERO value for aimlessly digging a hole and then filling it in. There is value in digging a hole and planting a tree or placing a footing for a building….
This of course allows socialists/communists to convince someone with an IQ of 80 who can barely read that he is as valuable as an Edison or a Dr. Feynman. Pol Pot shows the extreme to which that type of thinking leads.
indeed; breaucracies learn almost nothing from failure, except how to better blame others, Taking a almost 2000 page document and implementing it a national law with tens of thousands of follow up legal pages and dozens of new divisions (Obamacare) is a tremendous example of your message of the harm from one person or one small group implementing one size fits all massive central planned non-solutions.
I agree with most of what you wrote except this. “If you let 350 million people make decisions for themselves, you will likely have 350 million right decisions.”
Many will make poor decisions, many will fail. Many will learn from others failure, and from their own. “Pain is a prod to memory” Personal responsibility is not a progressive feature.
enviromental nihilism
It was progressives who created the great California water project that helps feed the country.
http://patbrowndocumentary.com/home/index.html
I’m guessing the agriculture friendly Hoover Dam and TVA and BPA were also promoted by progressives.
BobM, Hoover started the Hoover Dam, not FDR. And if you look at Brown’s other accomplishments you will see how they have dragged the California economy down to it’s current high deficit. If projects pay for themselves, you aren’t going have much opposition.
But it’s also the Progressives who are trying to save some minor species of fish that is now responsible for drying up vast quantities of farmland in California. So a lot of the water projects that led to growth and prosperity in California are now being wasted.
The California water project was first of all, never completed and secondly favors large city populations and bait fish over agricultural producers. Read a few essays by Victor Davis Hanson as he has lived the tale.
Bobby Mag, it is Progressives who today are suing and are attempting to remove your great reclamation, irrigation, and flood control projects in the name of the Environment or the Delta Smelt. It just goes to prove that you can not ever make a Progressive happy, not even if you hung him with a brand new rope.
About 1992 I think there was a big flood in Texas. Some reservoirs even over flowed the dams built to hold the water back. I was eating lunch in a diner while the TV had images of this early Global Warming destruction. My wife asked me if I thought that the Federal Government should help these people. Being a Conservationist instead of an Environmentalist I answered no. That fellow on the TV just said that it had been 24 years since the water had been this high. That means that 24 years ago that the flood waters was this high or higher. He knowingly built his house in a flood zone, if he is that stupid no, he doesn’t deserve any help.
I felt a tap on my right shoulder and in the booth behind me was an unhappy looking man. He said, “I live in Texas where this flooding is happing and my house is under 20 feet of water this very minute. You’re a find one to talk living here in the Tennessee Valley with all that TVA has done to help you with flood control!”
Not to be bested by a simple poor old Texan I asked this man if the Federal Government made him the same deal it made the folks living on the banks of the Tennessee River would he accept that deal and be happy? “Yes” he answered. Ok then I said, go home and get everything you own off your property because I’m coming in with a bull dozer and flatling your house. “Why,” he asked? Because I’m going to build a bigger dam and your land is going to be permanently under water! He must have been a Progressive because he didn’t have another idea beyond the envy that he had already expressed. Reread my first paragraph paying special attention to the second sentence.
No, the great california water project was created a century ago by entrepreneurs – er, excuse me, Robber Barrons.
It is, the progressives however, who have shut the water off to the California valleys, drying up the farmland, and removing old dams, levies and reservoirs in the name of environmentalism and pseudo-causes like saving the delta smelt, or the snail darter, or the spotted owl, or any of a bunch of “endangerment” causes.
“Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.”
Thomas Jefferson
The same thing is happening today with the tax credit paid out to producers of ethanol fuel, a fine example of a government idea gone wrong.
Actually it is a fine example of the guy who pays the most in campaign funds to BOTH parties gets handsomely rewarded.
Dwayne Andreas CEO of Archer Daniels Midland Co. is the top US campaign contributor to both parties. He has won big time over the years in the subsidy racket.
Biofuel is the newest. ADM profits soar 550 percent as ethanol margins improve
It always pays to follow the money. There is usually a big pile of slime at the end of the trail not concern for the environment or for humanity.
When it comes to central planning, Hayek hit the nail on the head:
http://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Conceit-Errors-Socialism-Collected/dp/0226320669/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1410803446&sr=1-1&keywords=the+fatal+conciet
CATO The Fatal Conceit Continues
Droughts and resulting crop failures can cause famines regardless of the political system. But an oppressive political system can certainly cause a great deal of harm as well.
A decent government, especially one in a wealthy country like the USA has plenty of technology available to plan and mitigate damage from weather events.
Nuclear power for electric. WE HAD Thorium as an option for over a half century.
Desalination, most of the population is on the coasts.
Storage of food supplies. Food Irradiation (used by the Army) can extend the shelf life of fresh refrigerated foods up to a month and packaged foods in tins for years.
Gail, You never fail to educate me and make me terribly upset at the same time.