The Zamboni Must Be Broken

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/arctic.seaice.color.000.png

 

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30 Responses to The Zamboni Must Be Broken

  1. R. de Haan says:

    If this freeze continues, the people from Iceland can walk to Greenland.

  2. All I know is that after the warmth from the Hudson Bay to Greenland dissipates it will probably be like Joe Bastadi says, the freeze next year will be much more extensive.

  3. Scarlet Pumpernickel says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11974574

    Climate change can change lightning as well, CO2 is an electrical conductor

  4. Sense Seeker says:

    Gee, there’s ice in the arctic? In winter?! Why isn’t the mainstream media reporting on this?

  5. Sense Seeker says:

    Of course, your graph shows only a snapshot at one point in time. A time series would be much more informative. I couldn’t find one for December, but here’s artic sea ice cover in September over time: http://www.skepticalscience.com/Has-Arctic-sea-ice-recovered.htm

    (I’d have added a graph if only I knew how. Any tips are appreciated. Thanks.)

      • Sense Seeker says:

        Right. One snapshot is okay, a time series is propaganda? What ARE your criteria? You’re not trying to keep people in the dark, are you, Amino?

        • So you expect there to be ice in the Arctic, and you also expect that there won’t be ice in the Arctic.

          Great having a belief system which interprets all evidence as confirmation.

      • Sense Seeker says:

        Yes, Steve, I do expect there to be ice in the arctic now, but over the course of the years it may disappear as the surface of the earth and the seas warm up. Is that so difficult to understand?

        Here’s another nice graph for you, about the increase in the heat content of the oceans over time: http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=4

        • Where do you live? Here in Colorado temperatures drop below freezing after fifteen minutes of darkness. I’m guessing you live in a warm climate and have little comprehension of what the Arctic is like.

      • Sense Seeker says:

        You’re in Colorado in the arctic? But I notice you didn’t respond to the evidence that the oceans’ heat content is increasing, but instead focus back on the temperature in your back yard.

        And as I mentioned elsewhere this site explains that because it is cold in your back yard, doesn’t mean it is cold on average worldwide: http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/reportcard/atmosphere.html

      • Sense Seeker says:

        Steve, interesting that you refer to that Danish website. I had to look at what exactly it shows, but now I understand. Bear with me, and check it out.

        The green line are the average daily values over 1958-2010. The red one is the same for 2010. The graph shows they correlate well, although it does seem that the red line is above the green one slightly more often than under it.

        You can change the year by clicking on it on the left hand panel. Now, if you click 2009, and 2008, and 2007, you will see they all are clearly above the green long term average line.

        In contrast, if you take the oldest years, you see that they are more often under the green line.

        Proper statistical analysis would very likely show that yes, the arctic *IS* warming.

      • Sense Seeker says:
        December 14, 2010 at 4:55 am

        You’re in Colorado in the arctic? But I notice you didn’t respond to the evidence that the oceans’ heat content is increasing,

        Wrong. ARGO buoys show the oceans cooling. You must be using James Hansen information.

  6. don penman says:

    Just because it might be warm worldwide does not mean it is all caused by co2.I thought that OHC was falling.

  7. suyts says:

    What’s with the curls on the graph?

    Sense seeker, I think your information about the oceans getting hotter is a bit dated.

  8. AndyW says:

    Ice coverage is pretty low this year in Hudson Bay and also Bering side.

    What are the semi circle artifacts? I noticed them on Bremen as well.

    Andy

    • Scott says:

      Not sure what kind of satellite artifact they are, but they’ve been present on and off for weeks. They don’t look like they eat up much area, but I’d be interested to see someone do that calculation to see if it’s significant.

      -Scott

    • Ice coverage is pretty low this year in Hudson Bay and also Bering side.

      That’s normal. It’s from left over warmth of El Nino. That will be gone next year.

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