US begins shutdown amid budget row
What they were trying to say is that Senate Democrats refused to pass the multiple budgets Republicans passed and sent to them last night. Budgets always originate in the House.
The BBC needs to be put down along with the IPCC. It is really disgusting how 25 years after the Berlin wall came down, the same commie pigs have taken over many important western institutions.
Please stick to science, the politics really takes away from your message and credibility.
Try a post on this:
“That is what is so amazing. The amount of heat in the oceans does not account for the deficit in the models scenarios, and the rate of change is not increasing as the “its hiding in the oceans” requires for plausability. If the oceans are taking all this heat, why isnt the amount of heat in the increasing at an exopotential rate? See Figure 1. Where is the rate change to account for this?
http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/ “
Piss off.
Seconded, carried–throw the bum out.
I understand the implications for completely voiding 9 laws of physics, but do you?
Do you understand the difference between “Scientific Theory” and a “Working Hypothesis”?
What happened to your brain Brad???
Piss off 2
http://drtimball.com/2013/ipcc-climate-a-product-of-lies-damn-lies-and-statistics-built-on-inadequate-data/
In the late ’80s the commies jumped off their mother-ship, aka the Soviet Union, and climbed on the first piece of flotsam they found, aka the BBC, universities and such like from where they still try to wreck havock among humanity
It does take two to tango in regards to the latest inability of the US government to do anything. No dancing there at the moment. Poor line you are correct Steve from the BBC.
Brad is correct, seems to be more politics now than Science. Perhaps you need to rename the blog to something else now?
No, you’re wrong on both points:
There is only one party that doesn’t tango and ithat;s the Obama party: http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/the-beltway-lies-of-the-obamacare-war/#XXqsiktim8QL0zw2.99
Because the science has been politicized, politics has become an integral part of this blog. It’s inevitable because of the nature of this blog: Exposing Bull Shit.
And I think Steve Goddard is doing a hell of a job.
I second that!
What? I have a couple grad degrees so I fully understand the difference. The key to any hypothesis is to truly test the assumptions. If the heat is hiding in the oceans then the hypothesis needs to be consistent with the difference between the data and the hypothesis. Here it does not.
You guys aren’t really scientists or thinkers are you? Sorry, I will go to boards where the real scientists play.
You piss of, BTW. The difference between someone who purports to think and someone who actually does is the ability to evaluate the argument of the other side, you fail, you’re no scientist, you do not do “real science.”
You’re missing the point, which is that the consensus position has all along been that increased atmospheric CO2 causes an increase in the global mean surface temperature (not in the ocean temperature, in the AIR temperature). That has already been PROVEN FALSE, by me especially, with my Venus/Earth temperatures comparison 3 years ago, and indicated as well by the clear lack of global warming for at least the last 17 years. The attempt to argue “it’s hiding in the ocean” is incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial–and you fell for it like a kid for a shiny metal slug glittering in the sunlight. “All that glitters is not gold”, especially the arguments of the defenders of a failed science–or of a failed presidency.
Don’t forget to tell him that the ocean temps off the California coast are down. The attempts to “explain” the failed theory facts are frustrating to say the least. BTW Brad I have Degrees as well and multiple published scientific papers and am a strict believer/follower of the scientific method and thus far rhe greenhouse theory has come nowhere close to proven.
The pacific has not warmed since 1994.
You would have thought that if all the heat was going into the oceans the climate models would have predicted this or the IPCC would have mentioned this at some point in the last decade or two… Any theory can be saved by introducing more and more convoluted ad hoc modifications. But eventually the theory is then able to predict anything that happens in the future, i.e., it looses all predictive power and value.
The main problem with that BBC report is the reporter. Mark, up-the-Dems-sphincter, Mardell reporting like this is not a surprise. His glowing reports on Obama, and his administration, are nothing but sycophantic hero-worship.
The BBC has become a propaganda machine with a stake in the “green industry” since they gave a substantial amount of their pension funds to Al Gore.
So true.
Stephen, its your blog and it is your priviledge to include what you wish.
Politics and Science have been mixed. Any one can call themselves a scientits as they do not need to be registered. This post descibes scientists http://pickeringpost.com/story/settled-science-you-d-be-surprised/2061
If you (meaning anybody) take a few temperature measurements and read a rain gauge you can call yourself a “climate scientist”, Then if you make some conclusions from your measurements and you know some friendly colleague supports a theory which is in vogue but not proven then together you could get a paper published in some supportive journal such as “Science” or “Nature”. Still easier you could have a party and do a survey amonst your friends and then write a paper that 97% think the same way (whether it is true or not). Facts do not count only “group think” is important to get published in a “Science” journal.
What might Brad’s degrees be ? BSc in rubbish collection from a mail order college? In Australia a certain judge of the Supreme Court {who was jailed for perjury) obtained a PhD from a mail order “College” calling itself a “University” I think it cost $10,000.
Steve’s right. Global warming hysteria was never about science. It’s all politics. And yeah, the Beeb is attrociously biased to the left. There reporting of national poltics is bad enough, but when it comes to reporting US politics they don’t even try to hide it. eg when reporting the Weiner scandal BBC always refer to the guy as a ‘Congressman’ but when a Rebublican does something dumb he’s always given the Republican label – front and centre.
“Brad says:
October 1, 2013 at 4:50 am
Please stick to science, the politics really takes away from your message and credibility.”
I wonder if Brad says the same to the IPCC?
“Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated.” – Ottmar Edenhofer, co-chair of the IPCC Working Group III.
Brad can’t seem to wrap his mind around the fact that all the government funded “science” on climate change is really politicians/bureaucrats trying to justify laws that are designed to increase the power of the political/bureaucratic elite. Individual scientists stampede one another for cash that those same elites are happy to have printed for them. This situation is none too flattering for those doing “climate science”, our elitist friends in the government or the cognitive abilities of our dear friend Brad.
Do we know if they stopped funding the IPPC now that they have a budget problem?
The bias of Auntie is very clear, they want all to live in Bongo-Bongo Land and sit around a campfire singing Khumbaya.
Except of course the BBC management luvies – chauffeur driven limos and champaign breakfasts, then retire early on £million bonus plus pension.
Just like the Soviet Union
And noted by an exBBC employee, Eric Arthur Blair (25 June 1903 – 21 January 1950), whose writings ranged over the Cold War, Big Brother, thought police, thoughtcrime, Newspeak, Room 101, Telescreen, 2 + 2 = 5, memory hole, doublethink….and so much more.
Some thought he wrote entertaining novels others at the BBC knew they had vision of a blueprint within them.
This is the most salient issue.
Communism did not move here with the fall of the Soviet Union (although many Russians joke that it did).
The same people behind communism realised after the revolutions of 1848 and 1870 that they could not generate revolutionary change in England in America, so they settled on a plan of delayed, incremental implementation. This group named themselves after Roman leader Fabius “Cunctator”, who used such tactics, rather than direct confrontation, to finally defeat Hannibal.
http://www.alor.org/Library/FabianSocialistContributiontotheCommunistAdvance.htm
http://www.awakeandarise.org/article/FabianWindow.htm
The Fabians represent the financial elite at the heart of the British, and now Anglo-American Empire. They seek total world domination, and Socialism or Communism are merely means to and end.
Eric Blair was a Fabian. After volunteering in the Spanish Civil War he was refused a leadership position he had been promised, and left the movement. He subsequently wrote Animal Farm and 1984.
Orwell realized as he became older, and wiser to the ways of men, that Utopias are not possible on Earth. All forms of government eventually become corrupt and dictatorial.
That is why the rights of men are more valuable than the rights of man.
Beware the ides of Agenda 21…
“It is really disgusting how 25 years after the Berlin wall came down, the same commie pigs have taken over many important western institutions.”
I agree and they’re even rebuilding the Wall.
8 things to know about a Government Shutdown: http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/09/23/225462813/8-things-to-know-about-a-government-shutdown
“Climate Science” is a misnomer anyway. It is – and always has been – “Climate Politics”.
Let’s not forget that this “shut down” is a direct result from over spending.
Obamacare is a budgetary disaster as it will cost much more than anticipated and will sink the manyhousehold budgets.
Pulling the break is inevitable.
The current debt crises is not only limited to the government.
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/09/30/dnc-debt-crisis/?iid=SF_F_River
Don’t you love it?
“Budgets always originate in the House.”
No. Budgets arise in the Senate. Spending arises in the House.
There is no budget. The criminals in the Senate have not produced their legally required budget in 4 years. “Continuing Resolutions” are an artifact of having no budget. The Dems haven’t produced a budget because they don’t want their agenda in writing for the People to see.
All, let’s give Brad a break. He was only expressing an opinion with which most here disagree. We can refute the message without denigrating the messenger. Also, Brad, the word is “exponential” not “exopotential”, you dolt.
It’s Steve’s blog. Ipso facto, he can’t do it wrong. Yes, Brad is a dolt. Dolt’s deserve no breaks.
Brad is a hypocrite. Leftists never hold their side accountable to the same standards, and should be roundly punished for that.
I would not call it the slimiest. But it is the biggest lie.
Next to AGW.
Rush hour in Washington DC: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-01/rush-hour-traffic-dc-government-shutdown-day
The House passed a smorgasbord of options, but Senate Democrats refused to approve any of them.
I’m still trying to figure out ‘exopotential.’
A general question. Did any of the budgets submitted by the Republicans not defund or delay Obamacare in some way?
I note- the BBC have changed the incorrect wording – not joking
– they acknowledge this change & expain – I am joking:-)