Could NOAA Have Saved These People’s Lives?

Thousands of people died unnecessarily from the heat during July, 1936 – simply because NCDC didn’t have the opportunity to apply a TOBS adjustment to the thermometers yet, and cool them down.

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9 Responses to Could NOAA Have Saved These People’s Lives?

  1. Gail Combs says:

    Turn the screws a little harder why don’t you Steve?

  2. tom0mason says:

    So according to NOAA Dr. Steve Hoffbeck is a professor of history at Minnesota State University at Moorhead was wrong with the temperatures he quotes here:

    North Dakota recorded a new all-time high temperature of 121 degrees at Steele, 40 miles east of Bismarck, on July 6; the previous high had been 114 degrees. On that same day, the temperature hit 118 degrees in Jamestown, 119 in New Salem an 120 degrees in Wishek. In Bismarck, the thermometer reached 114.3 degrees, the highest temperature ever recorded in the city.

    http://www.greatplainsexaminer.com/2012/07/31/nodak-history-the-hottest-summer-ever-–-1936/

    • Andy DC says:

      The 1936 heat wave was non only extremely severe, but expansive and long lasting as well. 117 was recorded in Indiana, 112 in West Virginia and 110 in Pennsyvania.

      Saginaw in northern lower Michigan, where a 100 degree day is very rare, had an entire week where the average high temperature was 106.5. The hottest day was an incredible 112.

      • _Jim says:

        Being outside in that kind of heat is no laughing matter either. Some number of years ago we experienced 110 plus days and trying to effect car repairs outside forced short excursions of 15 min or so before retreating inside for relief from the heat. Back in ‘them’ days AC wasn’t NEAR as available as it is today either, especially in Michigan!

  3. Eric Simpson says:

    It dudn’t make cents…

    We have to realize something, this and so many extreme heat events that happened in the 1930s belies (proves false!) the adjusted every which way until Sunday temperature (T) record. Some find fault with Steven’s methodology used in his effort to expose the T record, but regardless of that, one way or another, the T record is… false.

    Even the National Academy of Sciences in 1975 showed the ’70s to be way cooler than the ’30s (N. Hemisphere). And Steven concentrated on the US T record, but as he said, the US record is the most complete and reliable, and the global T record is spotty and easily manipulated, so quite conceivably the US record is a better reflection of the global reality than the dubious global T record itself. As far as the global history, why was the record for the hottest day ever.. set in 1913, and the coldest in 1983? And btw I’m not even using a 2013 record for all time cold measured via satellite at -135°F. So the hottest day ever should have occurred recently, like in the “hottest decade on record.” The record for the coldest day should have been set near the start of that supposed warming, like, in 1913. It’s backwards, people.

    Same for the record for the continents. It seems crazy to me: 6 out of 7 of the continents set their record for the coldest day after their record for the hottest day. Well, with the straight up warming that Mann insists is true, 7 out of 7 or *all* of the continents should have set their record for their hottest day way after their coldest day. But no. It’s the opposite, people. That doesn’t jive, folks. We best go back to the drawing board as far as the warmist approved T record. And btw the continents data is quick and easy to see, here: http://www.space.com/17816-earth-temperature.html

    And I know I mentioned this in another comment, and I like to spell it out for the drama, so I’m going to do it again: the Northern Hemisphere sets its record for the coldest day after it set its record for the hottest day. Yup. And, the Southern Hemisphere sets its record for the coldest day after its record for the hottest day. We’ve doubled down. And, the Western Hemisphere sets its record for the coldest day after its record for the hottest day. 3 for 3! And, the Eastern Hemisphere sets its record for the coldest day after its record for the hottest day. Jackpot. The world record, 6 out of 7 continents, all 4 possible hemispheres, ALL set their record for the coldest day … yeah, A F T E R … their record for the hottest day. It dudn’t make cents. Do I have to beat this horse until hell freezes over? And btw the hemisphere data is quick and easy to see, here: http://wmo.asu.edu/

  4. charles nelson says:

    This is where you excel.

  5. Lawrence13 says:

    Fantastic Steve . I know it is said that sarcasm and all that but such withering truth and logic puts a pin into the abstract balloons of ideology and ego’s that these people love to inflate. Most of the modern day MSM and so called science-as it seems hard to separate the two remind me of those old Hollywood movie western towns which in reality only existed as facades and were totally two dimensional and when you went through the ‘Golden Grater’ swinging Saloon door you were really on the Hollywood parking lot. Falsehoods upon falsehoods.

  6. Lawrence13 says:

    Whoops……Steve ? Keep up Lawrence

  7. Just thinking back to what it must have been like before there were any thermometers, back to the beginning. Pockets of humans in caves, savannah, or wherever didn’t stand around and ponder why the day was so cold or so hot. They didn’t wonder what they can blame it on or better yet, who to blame it on. They simply took whatever courses of action were necessary to survive. And well, here we are, supposedly more intelligent and enlightened than they, and because they were able to somehow survive.

    I’ve often wondered what life would be like if we simply submitted to whatever demands the AGW people want. They don’t want coal. They don’t want oil. They don’t like water diverted to make dams for hydroelectric power. They darned sure don’t like nuclear. Heck, they don’t want us fouling the air by burning wood. So, what’s left? Wind and solar. Okay, can you power entire cities and transportation systems on wind and solar? Solar aircraft? Are these cities made of wood? Or are we still allowed to mine metals with solar-powered heavy equipment and factories.

    It seems to me that if you play out the scenario to its fullest you come out with mega-communes of people trying to survive on what their portion of the communal garden gives them. Quite frankly, I can’t say that moving us back to the 11th century is something that I can get behind.

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