I have been fighting for open space and wilderness since I was 15 years old, when I testified at my first Congressional hearing in support of a wilderness area in Utah. I have also worked as a wilderness ranger for the US Forest Service.
“Green energy” has very low energy density, so it necessarily involves destruction of huge areas of open space and thus is very destructive to wildlife and the environment.
By contrast, coal has very high energy density, and thus is much less destructive the environment.
The global warming scam is being used to make environmentalists self-destruct.
Is that a good or a bad thing? I don’t know anymore.
I think someone else waved the noose and the environmentalists stuck their own head in. The noose was not global warming, it was money and convenient self-confirmation of the belief that technology is evil, a comfortable lifestyle is evil, and SUV drivers are annoying pricks.
Be very careful any time you meet someone who can tell you exactly what you want to hear.
It’s important to remember that environmentalism has a schism of two cults, one of which is a false prophesy and will self-destruct like you say. The misanthropic sect believes anything humans do is harmful to nature, even when the big picture proves otherwise. Such as high density urban living, called “condos” by greentards, which in fact is the greenest lifestyle despite the concentration of people (greentards often live in the countryside with septic tanks leaking in the watershed and drive into town and back scaring wildlife to death).
On the good side are the conservation-environmentalists. Those who set aside nature while staying in the cities, to visit parks now and then, leaving nature alone. Teddy Roosevelt would understand.
I am sure you love Agenda 21 and the Biodiversity Treaty.
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Reblogged this on Climatism.
It’s the use of excuses to achieve political goals.
Cheap energy is the way to a better life and getting out of poverty. Cheap energy gives people the time to learn things. Cheap energy allows people to have the time to challenge the political leadership. Cheap energy makes people less controllable. Cheap energy means less ability to tell people how to live. The political class wants control. But how will it achieve it, and/or maintain it when the world already has cheap energy for so many and many more are seeking to achieve it?
It needs an excuse. What excuse has been used for thousands of years? Climate. Weather. If you don’t sacrifice and obey the spring rains won’t come and the crops won’t grow and you’ll starve. If you don’t sacrifice and obey the snake god will eat the sun and you’ll freeze and starve.
The environment is an excuse to greatly increase the cost and access to energy. The cost and access to energy is one of the methods of political control. It doesn’t matter what actually happens to the environment.
er greatly increase the cost and limit access to energy
Steve,
I quit using the word environmentalist and switched to the word conservationist.
The other misused word that makes my blood boil is “Sustainable” That used to mean farming in such a manner that the land was ‘conserved’ and kept in good health for the next generation. Now the word has been co-opted to mean all sorts of nasty things.
The Sociopathic elite, now calling themselves “progressives” have a nasty habit of taking a word with good emotions attached and using it for their own ends. In other words they LIE!
Here is another example that might prove useful History of Democrat Racism
She has a long list of links like: Martin Luther King a Republican?
So it is worth bookmarking this web page.
And where are all the protestors? The take sabbaticals when a liberal is in office; if they do protest, they protest for the invisible things like income and wealth (The occupy Wallstreet crowd).
Driving across the country, it is obvious how the windmills adversely affect the landscape so-much more than oil; with the one exception of strip-mining.
Damn liberals and their idolatrous “myopia”!
The good news is that all the windmills will one-day be an integral component of fossil fuel.
Ha ha ha ha
“…Driving across the country, it is obvious how the windmills adversely affect the landscape so-much more than oil; with the one exception of strip-mining….”
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And even the strip mining is not as bad since the companies now have to curb pollution and restore the area creating lakes and other nice areas. (Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act of 1977)
Strip mining at least does not kill off the local raptor and bat population either.
I have done a lot of caving and ridge walking in West Virgina before and after that 1977 law went into effect and there has been a major improvement. Some where I have a picture taken of a friend standing on a ridge with strip mining devastation behind him. It was taken in 1974. (Back then I was a member of Greenpeace, Sierra Club and The Nature Conservancy.)
I have family that live in the Panhandle of Texas. Massive wind farms have been installed up there just North and East of Amarillo. They are an eye sore. But, land owners can get paid up to $15,000 a year for each turbine on their property depending on the size of the turbine. Of course that money comes from Tax payers and not from the Wind Farms making money. For the farmers, they see it as a cash cow and will not turn it down.
re: “The global warming scam is being used to make environmentalists self-destruct.” SG
What? They are not self-destructing. They have the Media in their pocket. They are winning. Coal power is being killed as you write. Atomic Energy has been stalled. Democrat power has been guaranteed in perpetuity by transforming a White nation (90%) to a > 50 to 60% Non-White <85 mean IQ 3rd World Multi Lingual Balkanized Pseudo-nation ripe for governing by future Obamas. Just look at California and its transformation into Mexifornia: Democrat forever. That energy will be in short supply is of no matter to the Democrats since they will have the unchallenged political power to control the stupid who will continue to vote for them as long as they get their Rice and Beans as well as the rhetoric of equality.
Dan Kurt
Thanks for this post, I have not thought of all this from this perspective.
Another ironic fact is that the increase in CO2 is MAKING THE WORLD GO GREEN.!
CO2, and elixir for life, is increasing the plant life in the world and is a boon to many things including agriculture. Satellite photos show a significant green increase particularly in semi-arid areas. As I recall, Ryan Maue (spelling?) a plant fertilization expert stated there was a 42% increase. .
C3 plants (99% of plant species) do not have to keep the stomata (breathing pores) open as wide or as long when they are not in CO2 starvation mode. This means they conserve water.
Carbon dioxide starvation, the development of C4 ecosystems, and mammalian evolution
Carbon starvation in glacial trees recovered from the La Brea tar pits, southern California (That is near sea level)
I would much rather see CO2 levels back up to ~1500 +/-500 ppm, especially if we maybe headed into a Little or worse Big ice age when the CO2 levels fall.
I saw some research recently that seemed to indicate that C4 plants can actually switch the extra processing steps (developed to cope with low atmospheric CO2) off, essentially becoming C3 type processing units.
*Can’t find the link though 🙁
There’s a huge windfarm south of Abilene, TX. It’s called the Roscoe Wind farm, 634 turbines on 100,000 acres per Wikipedia. That’s 150 acres per turbine, meaning you could put 300 homes in the space of 1 turbine.
I could be wrong, but the reason they place wind turbines so far apart is so they don’t affect the wind so much that the next turbine downwind produces less energy.
I’d like to see an analysis done of wind energy’s spatial coefficiency. What I mean is, how many wind turbines operating at max efficiency (~1 turbine per 150 acres) does it take to power 150 acres of residential, commercial, and industrial property. I’m guessing more than 1.
Some of those turbines out near Abilene are ‘visible’ on the KDYX WSR-88D “NEXRAD” too. Day and night, Night and day.
See the little dots to the left of the RADAR site (the little blanked-out disk), about halfway to the west county border?
http://www.mesonet.org/index.php/weather/radar/KDYX
I used Google Earth to verify turbines (and service roads et al) exist at the place where these ‘returns’ are seen a few months back (just in case anybody is wondering) … a similar case existed to the west of the KFDR site (at least it used to; I think the turbines are showing up better on the KDYX site attm.)
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The same holds true for the wind farms near Amarillo. They can be seen as “rain” on radar when there is not a cloud in the sky.
Not quite as dramatic as those that show up on the Dyess KDYX WSR-88D NEXRAD.
Here’s the Amarillo KAMA WSR-88D NEXRAD, click on the center right-facing arrow to activate the RADAR imagery ‘loop’. There are a few dots and series of much lighter returns showing from NNE to roughly NE from the KAMA RADAR site.
http://www.mesonet.org/index.php/weather/radar/KAMA
Much more worthy of note is something close-in to the RADAR site that blocks a ‘beam’ to the SE .. have never looked at Google Earth to see what that might be. (Note the dark radial off to the SE, that is the direction of the blockage)
I would not say (attm) that it looks like ‘rain’ either; I have never seen ‘rain’ that specular (small, isolated individual dots) on a display.
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Ah, I was looking at it from Weatherunderground Wundermap.
It doesn’t matter to the idiot progressive. NM had their primaries last week, there was one idiot democrat who ran on this very issue. His constant and very annoying radio adds said “we have lots of open space in NM that we can use to generate clean and renewable energy”. I thought to myself, the last thing I want to see when I go riding/camping/hiking are windmills or solar farms. I just want to be away from everything and enjoy nature.
Chuck,
Reread what Jeffk says @ June 13, 2014 at 12:35 pm
The serfs are not allowed to muck-up mother nature by go riding/camping/hiking, being away from everything and enjoying nature.
Instead we are to be relegated to our 14ft X 14ft Sustainable Apartments, our bike paths and city “green spaces” while the trails and roads in out national parks are ripped out, called “wildlife corridors” and made off limits. It is already happening.
This is what the UN Biodiversity treaty is all about. It was defeated in Congress at the 11th hour but that did not stop it. Instead it is being implemented piecemeal just like Obama and the EPA are going around Congress.
The President’s Council on Sustainable Developmentwas created by President Clinton in 1993, creating a method to implement The Wildlands project through Specific Plans in communities across the nation.” Bills and Laws
The Biodiversity Map. Green areas are where humans are allowed red areas are no access, yellow is buffer zones. Of course the elite like Maurice Strong, Ted Turner and George Soros get to keep their large land holdings. It is the serfs that are to be contained.
General info: http://nwri.org/?s=wildlands+map&search=Search
The people behind the wildlands projects: http://www.undueinfluence.com/wildlands_disambiguation.htm
I have read about that.
I keep wondering what happens when a really big swarm of tornadoes hits. In Indiana I saw straw driven through electric poles. In Alabama (ridge walking looking for caves again) I saw a tornado take out a mobile home park in the valley below us.
Tornado vs. Turbines: Wind Farm Mania
Reporting stuff like that may make people want to not stay near you. LOL
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/state-leases-land-near-clayton-for–megawatt-wind-project/article_cdb3c0e3-1d81-5e5b-8656-42b0c093f696.html 50,000 acres just for windmills to power 200,000 homes or they say
It may be callous of me but I don’t have a problem with self-destructing environmentalists.
It only becomes a problem when they try to drag me along with them.
Gail Combs says:
June 13, 2014 at 2:15 pm
“I quit using the word environmentalist and switched to the word conservationist.”
You’re spot-on, Gail. I consider myself to be a Conservationist. I’m in favor of things like National Parks, National Forests, clean water, and saving the Giant Panda.
21st Century Environmentalists pay lip service to these things. But in their heart of hearts, they tend to be useful idiots at the bottom of the ‘food chain’, and misanthropes near the top. Hence the CAGW scam, which is really about economic sabotage, and about increasing the death rates of poor people during cold Winters, which is already happening in Britain.
A few years ago, the eco-loonies in Denmark wanted to put up bird-choppers in Thy National Park, in order to ‘save the planet’. Environmentalism vs the environment. Hmm.