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Oh–now it all makes perfect sense (sarc)
I have bad eyes. But I still know what you’re Avitar or Image is. I recognize it. “Find X.” One of the best jokes I have ever seen!
First, understand that it is a scam, then you get to call it a “scam”.
Got it.
This is what we do. We immediately cut off all funding for the climate alarmists, AGW researchers and anyone else who is supposedly part of that 97% consensus. If the science is settled, they don’t need to do any more research. If it’s settled, it’s settled. We don’t need these people any more. Case closed. Funding done.
Then let’s sit back and see how fast the science is suddenly ‘not’ settled. Faster than a cow farts, I bet.
A versy sensible and well-tempered proposal. I support this notion.
Makes perfect sense to me!
Can we still flog them too? I still want flogging.
^^This.^^
I like everything you said except for the flatulence part. We do not need more methane, according to our AGW friends.
It’s okay. All of our cows are outfitted with flatulence catchers. They’re quite stylish. They have little booties to match. It’s all the rage.
My goats are quite jealous. They have a true fashion sense.
You have my vote! đ
Logic doesn’t work with alarmists. While there is one skeptic out there, they need to spend billions to prove the scam to that person, and save humankind. At least to save the few thousand elites, and the 500 million serfs they need. The rest are excess baggage on Terra nautilus.
Right,
The experts have reached the Consensus that they want to keep their jobs.
I was in a meeting like that once.
All the scientists from all the research and QC labs around North America from our corporation met to determine why their testing results on a standard material did not match. When presented with the truth of why their results did not match, including all the data to back it up, they decided that yes I was right, but keeping their jobs trumped the truth since the truth made them look foolish and incompetent. (They had not bothered to calibrate their thermometers – I kid you not. ) They then came up with a “Consensus” which they called the “Generally Accepted Value” to hide the fact that they had never bothered doing any basic QC on the equipment in the various labs. When I tried to push the issue, the head of corporate QC saw to it I got fired.
I learned the same lesson (don’t buck the guys you work for, in any way that would make them look bad, or anything less than “expert”) 20 years ago, when I was terminated for daring to submit papers for peer-review publication which the boss of my group (the “principal investigator”, with the continuing federal grants) didn’t agree with (though rival principal investigators, of long experience, did). They are plugged in and have a nice little machine working (as part of the bigger machine in Washington, in my case), and you have no rights. As a matter of fact, that was my introduction to a widespread incompetence in science (that was in the field of atmospheric aerosols and visibility). It isn’t a conspiracy either, but a general feature of large companies with a hierarchy, as the same thing happened, on a smaller scale, when I took a temporary industrial job two jobs before, assembling an electronic medical sensor (much faster than anyone else there was doing it). Both research and industry sectors are looking mainly for robotic technicians, not what I would call good scientists–people who will work cheap and WILL NOT do anything to upstage the guys higher on the institutional food chain.
Of course, I submitted my papers knowing the probable outcome (including not only my quick termination, but my eventual publication, which took 2 years) and I did what I knew was the right thing to do, regardless of the consequences I could foresee. With that self-understanding and faith in my own abilities, I went on, in the period of unemployment following the loss of that research associate’s position, to enter upon my own personal research program, into a possible objective origin to all the “ancient mysteries” of perennial public interest–and made the greatest discovery(ies) in history (oh yes). So don’t think yourself only the victim when it happens, but clear your mind, stay positive about your own abilities, and follow your own instincts to a greater success than you ever thought would come your way. (And no, I haven’t made a living–yet–from my discoveries. But I AM immortal–though I am perhaps the only person who knows it yet–the same way any discoverer of a great truth is immortal.)
Welcome to the Crack(pot) House, Gail. Harry is referring to the immortality of his having made the greatest scientific discovery of all time, that fractal coastlines can be pattern-matched with visible constellations in the sky. I quote his “scientific” claims that were so unfairly rejected by colleagues:
(A) “Pyramids, the Sphinx, the Holy Grail, and many other fabulous ancient mysteries deemed forever unanswerable by science and religion alike, are here explained by the great design, encompassing not only the Earth but the whole solar system.”
(B) “The Earth, indeed the entire solar system, was re-formed wholesale, in the millennia prior to the beginning of known human history; c. 15,000 BC marked the decisive event, when the Earth first began to orbit the Sun as it does today.”
(C) “Generations of earth scientists have utterly failed to note an anciently famous, mathematically precise and altogether simple symmetry of the landmasses on the Earth that precludes chance continental “drift” and any undirected physical process such as “plate tectonics.””
(D) “[The Design Behind The Mysteries] is an article that was submitted to the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society (upon the recommendation of an astrophysicist at Fermilab). It was rejected by the editor without consideration, with the excuse that its subject did not fit the theme of the journal, “the engineering of spaceflight.” But what better place to tell of the deliberate re-formation of the solar system?”
(E) “Consensus scientists, including Sears et al., will insist that the precise tessellation of the Earthâs landmasses does not prove intentional design by some past superpower. Actually, such scientists as I have tried to inform of the design have not responded, or not confronted the idea and the overwhelming evidence for it. I first came uponthe mantleplumes.org site, and the article by Sears et al. mentioned in the above text, in March 2005 (either March 19th or 20th, as I have a record of e-mailing the site on March 20th, after a quick reading of some of the material on the site). I attempted to communicate to three different e-mail addresses at this time. First, I e-mailed Dr. Sears, informing him of my prior finding ofdesign and trying to explain why in fact his findings indicated a deliberate design rather than an undirected [i.e., not intelligently directed] breakup event.”
(F) “I wrote, in part: … Even further, the universal ancient testimony of mankind was that the world was deliberately designed, according to precise and sacred number and geometry–and the ancient mathematical tradition passed down by the Pythagoreans particularly claimed the Earth was made to a dodecahedron design, which has the same symmetry as the icosahedral tessellation you have recognized. In short, yours is but the latest revelation in precisely the same tradition as the ancient mystery traditions. / That the continental breakup was due to deliberate design is not in fact even an arguable point, from my perspective, for I have already shown that the surface of the Earth was deliberately re-formed, less than 20,000 years ago (according to both ancient records and to the design itself, which tells a coherent ancient story, or history, and can be proved to have given rise to many of the worldâs myths about the âgodsâ of old–and indeed, to have initiated all of the once-sacred ancient traditions that I have yet studied.”
(F) “So Sears et al. have found essentially the same dodecahedral pattern I found, the pattern that is observable and verifiable today. The deliberate design of the Earth I found has been confirmed by scientists who had no idea of my discoveries, and who do not even interpret their finding as evidence of design. The design is thus an objective fact, independent of the observer and of any supposed personal prejudice or subjective agenda.”
(G) “I am not claiming that the Earthâs surface was deliberately reformed, and continents broken up, moved, and reshaped by design, on the sole basis of the above–although I do insist, strongly, that the uniformly upright orientation of the creature-like images on the Earth does in fact prove that they were designed, not randomly formed. But even I did not come to that conclusion by simply observing those images. I first found a symmetric pattern among the stars surrounding the ecliptic north pole (which is in fact the approximate axis of the entire solar system, and can reasonably be taken to be that axis). I found that that pattern was of central, religious importance to the civilization of ancient Egypt, and that it was but the central element of a wider pattern that was the keystone in the most ancient traditions of peoples the world over. I found, in other words, the original sacred images of mankind, in the sky and on the Earth, the common source of all the so-called âancient mysteriesâ.”
(H) Illustration of ancient gods turning Earth in to a canvas:
http://oi61.tinypic.com/am3b6f.jpg
“These re-formations also left the landmasses with an abundance of creature-like shapes, almost all upright on the globe and hence clearly the work of design. These creature images can be identified with the best known of mythological characters, worldwide (as treated in some detail in The End of the Mystery).”
For only $75 you can buy that big book.
(I) “The designers broke apart, moved, and re-formed whole continents into their present locations and shapes, in order to enable various constellation forms to be matched to various landforms, in a series of mappings of “heaven onto earth” that, together with the myths and other ancient traditions of mankind, tell the story the “gods” wanted to leave behind for man to find, when he had grown enough in understanding to see it. These mappings were undoubtedly the objective origin of the ancient religious tradition, and prime hermetic dictum, of “as above, so below”, or “on earth as it is in heaven.”
(J) “One must dispassionately conclude that the solar system was intentionally re-formed and re-oriented. Such intentional design can and does explain other well-known, improbable observations, such as that the size of the Moon in the sky is so nearly exactly the same size as the Sun (the former averages 0.527 degrees apparent diameter, the latter 0.533 degrees). The intended meaning of this situation — deemed merely a âcosmic coincidenceâ by modern science thus far — is explained in The End of the Mystery.”
But no mention as to why the sun and the moon subtend the same arc when viewed from the surface of Earth. That omission makes it rather hard to accept. Do I need to /sarc?
Ouch! Gail, I did in fact laugh at your story — but it is not funny. The truth is, there comes a point in any business where efficiency ceases to matter and the sociopaths (low level at first) begin to suck it dry.
Yes Jason, anyone who wants to succeed either learns to @$$ kiss or decides to run their own business instead. That is until the government bureaucrats owned by their competitors wipe them out. Honesty in todays environment is NOT the best policy and is likely to get you sacked.
My SWAG is that as the economy moves along the continuum that E.M. Smith pointed out, from straight dog eat dog âlaissez faireâ with a huge numbers of competitors to “Communism as the âlimit caseâ where there is ONE corporation and it IS the government,” the independent thinker/inventor becomes less and less important to business and corporations move towards wanting “Team Players” who have no problem with the shoddy products the corporations now sells and won’t upset the applecart.
This is also why the Christian set of ethics/morality is now a handicap in todays business environment. Who cares if the shoddy product kills off a few customers. The government bureaucrats and the MSM that the corporation controls will do a cover-up. And yes the corporations I worked for did kill customers and/or workers because of preventable shoddy practices.
As E. M. Said:
So the problem I identified and anyone who is at all sharp and honest and in QC has run up against is running head first into one of the side effects of Third Way/Fascism.
I had another rather interesting experience back in the early 1980s when ISO 9000 had just been introduced as THE ultimate Q.C. tool.
Since I was working for a very good company that was FDA regulated, I recognized some of ISO as being basically the same as cGMP which worked very nicely at my well run company.
When I mentioned this at the seminar, my seatmate responded with scathing things to say about ISO. He was Russian and said it was the exact same system used in the Soviet Union except now it had been transformed into an “International Standard” Sad to say, but he was correct. The ISO system stinks when it comes to insuring quality. It excels as a red tape weapon for killing off new start up companies.
The big difference between ISO and what my company did was ISO “trusts” the vendors data. My company did incoming inspection and often had inspectors on the vendors floor.
The food safety HACCP, I complain about uses the same concept as ISO. Trust the numbers from the corporation and do no further testing. We might as well just shut down the USDA and FDA.
Hey Gail! The good news is that regulation and centralization are inherently self-limiting. (Note that I say “regulation” and not “liability”. “Regulation” implies centralized control, whereas “liability” implies simply that people must make good any damages that they create.) Self limiting how? Because (like many sad parasites that kill their host) centralized control can never have good judgement of local conditions; eventually centralization will strangle itself in inefficiencies and die gasping — just as the USSR did.
That is good news in the long term — but we here in the US are in for a bad storm and a long, long night before things turn around.
The 97% nonsensus
Just accept what the experts say, says a guy called the Atheist Advocate.
In my experience, your average “atheist” is completely unskeptical toward and uncritical of the state, which they’ve basically swapped in for belief in God. So I usually call them “statheists.”*
*Yes, I know not all atheists are flaming statists, but the noisiest ones tend to be.
You haven’t met my husband. (Duck tape does work.)
As my former Grandfather-in-law said of me “there are some good Catholics, and some bad Catholics”. In your husband’s case, there are some good Atheists…… đ
Why a typical tool that guy is. He’d be praising the priests at the temple for the sun rising every day. He’d have been a flat earther until the consensus changed. He’d have been bleeding patients to cure them of disease, and going along with any number of things the experts had consensus on.
Gail, I can quite believe what you say. I was out in the field with some university lecturers recently whose works I have read over the years to keep myself abreast of the enviro science and when confronted with the real world they often don’t recognise what they see before them.
Even when they had written with great authority on the specific subject.
There are so many who are “often wrong, but never in doubt”.
separation of church and state…
..tell them to get their stupid religion out of here
“Before calling something a scam, you should try understanding it.”
That is one of the most wonderfully ill-informed tweets I have ever seen! It may set a new record on highest density of ignorance per character typed.
The most ironic part is that “Atheist Advocate” does not even realize what an extraordinary thing he has accomplished. Breath taking!
Tweet back to him that you understand the scam. ANd ask him when was the last time a nigerian confessed to his scam.
Sorry, I have to say just a bit more…
One of the main reasons why the CAGW cult continues is that it gives slow learners the exhilarating illusion that they understand Deep Science. “Gosh, sure I almost flunked Earth Science, but now that I heard about CO2, climate science is crystal clear to me!”
The literary equivalent of CAGW science are those failed writers who imagine they are now Great Poets because they remember to count 5, 7, 5, when they write haiku.
there’s two other factors:
1) appeal to authority – this way “I” can be important because I have experts to lean on so you must listen to me and obey
2) crypto fascism – you’ll find such a large percentage of whale savers, warmists and others of their ilk are in those cabals because the agenda is to make others do things they don’t want to giving these little punks a sense of power which they don’t have in real life.
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“Liberal: a power worshiper without power. ” – George Orwell
“youâll find such a large percentage of whale savers, warmists and others of their ilk are in those cabals because the agenda is to make others do things they donât want to giving these little punks a sense of power which they donât have in real life.”
That is an important point — and (in my opinion) the soft underbelly of their type. I rarely argue facts with such people, be they Nanny state supporters, gun control nuts, eco-crazies, or CAGW cultists. Instead I point out how their ideology is based on some version of “do what we say or we will kill you.” No matter what flavor collectivist they are, if you look at their proposals they always — always! — plan on enforcing it by murdering those who disagree. Point that out and watch them squirm.
Channeling Algore? đ
Australia has just invented a super sensitive thermometer to measure temperature. Not that we need it to prove CAGW is a collossal scam, as that would be a waste of money.
http://iphone.sciencealert.com.au/news/20140206-25602.html
For the Atheist, I understand that the climate “consensus” is a fraud, CAGW is a global tax scam, and advocates of it a either sociopaths or delusional. I see that Steven is in a constant war on twitter with both. Good onya Steven, cos I really don’t have the patience for them.
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“Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had.” – Michael Crichton
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“There is no such thing as consensus science. If it’s consensus, it isn’t science. If it’s science, it isn’t consensus. Period.” – Michael Crichton
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“Aliens Cause Global Warming” – A lecture by Michael Crichton, Caltech Michelin Lecture January 17, 2003
Crichton took a big risk in his career by going after the global warming myth in “State of Fear.” If he were a young novelist starting out and he wrote a book like that, he’d be one of those starving artists you hear about.
The atheist advocate also believes there is a consensus and certitude that God does not exist. He is a very wise (ass) man!
“There’s a consensus”. Know what? Said consensus just makes things up. How about the poor, poor polar bears:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/02/polar-bear-group-admits-population-estimates-were-a-guess/#more-110702
Compare this to point 14 of Dr. Botkins’s recent testimony to congress:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/31/in-house-testimony-botkin-dismantles-the-ipcc-2014-report/
Ends up they just invented the polar bear numbers “to satisfy public demand…”
Scam alert! Scam alert!
But; some people are just born suckers.
Faith in the experts, nice religion bro.
What if they’re right? What if those credentialed and capable of predicting these things…are right? And, if they are right, and solutions are found, and future generations are saved . . . your doubting a## will be long gone…quite possibly answering to an entity that you will likely say…in trepidation….I didn’t think you existed……I thought you were invented âto satisfy public demandâŚâ
You did not get it. That’s OK. Here is something different:
Marxism (Humor)
http://mythologystories.wordpress.com/2014/02/08/marxism
“What if those credentialed and capable of predicting these thingsâŚare right?”
Many — probably most — of the people who read this blog once assumed that the “credentialed” were likely correct about global warming. But then we changed our minds. Why? Because we began to look more closely at the numbers, at the data, at the methodology and predictions that the “credentialed” were making. That process of examining the data to verify the claims of the “credentialed” has a name. We call it “science.”
No matter how credentialed, capable, or prestigious someone is, if their claims do not match the data, then they are wrong. This is how real science works. CAGW is not true.
“Credentialed” Engineers built the Tacoma Narrows bridge. That worked well.
Yep! Models can do it all. Nothing to see here, correct for TOBS, and problem solved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw&app=desktop
But, but, but, THE MODELS!!! đ
Interesting harmonics through the fixed points. An engineer can learn a lot just by watching it.
+1
What if theyâre right? What if those credentialed and capable of predicting these thingsâŚare right?
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OK, what if they are right?
There had been a very intense debate among Quaternary scientists in recent years regarding which of the most recent interglacials is the best analogue for the present Holocene. Lisiecki and Raymo, (2005) essentially quashed the Berger and Loutreâs 2002 modeling link and no one has come forward with anything supporting an extended Holocene since then.
Lisiecki and Raymo (Paleooceanography, 2005) produced an exhaustive analysis of 57 globally distributed deep ocean cores reaching back about 5 million years.
Lisiecki and Raymoâs conclusion?
We had better hope and pray CO2 can delay the next glacial inception because Dr. Alley has shown the climate transitions abruptly within years to decades. For example the Wisconsin Glaciation to Holocene transition was less than three years!
Onset of the Little Ice Age was right about when the Holocene reached a half precession cycle old and it was bad enough. The Modern Warm Period, less warm then the the Medieval Warm Period, marks the second thermal pulse. There were two thermal pulses in the closest Holocene analog, MIS-11 just before glaciation.
If Ruddimanâs âEarly Anthropogenic Hypothesisâ is correct, the ONLY thing keeping us out of the next ice age is Carbon Dioxide. The Industrial Age along with the the recent grand solar maximum, may very well have occurred at exactly the most opportune time for H. sapiens, at the end of the present interglacial.
Also we are not out of the woods by a long shot. The Milankovitch Cycle low point will continue for 65 thousand years according to Lisiecki and Raymo. Yet these idiots in DC want to strip the earth of the CO2 security blanket that might be keeping us out of the next ice age. And to add insult to injury you can add the other papers showing C3 plants (99% of the plant species) were undergoing CO2 starvation when the earth was in the last glaciation.
Lets put this another way. For glacial inception, the summer solstice insulation minimum during MIS-11 at 65N was 489 Watt/m2 and in 2005 it was 474 Watt/m2 (Lisiecki and Raymo, 2005).
This means the earth need an ADDITIONAL 15 Watt/m2 to get to the insolation minimum in MIS-11. I am not familiar with any CO2 estimates which correlate with a 15 Watt/m2 rise in atmospheric forcing.
For example:
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [Schimel, 1996] estimated that the change solar forcing between 1850 and 1990 was only 0.3 W/m 2 at the top of the atmosphere vs. 1.5 W/m 2 for forcing anthropogenic CO2 forcing [cf., Reid, 1997]. Therefore to prevent glacial inception using anthropogenic CO2 forcing, we are still off by a factor of ten.
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H/T to William McClenney, a California certified Geologist who has done a huge amount of research on the subject “……The vast research I have done attempting to ferret out whatever is available on the last several ice ages and interglacials, especially the transitions, suggests that the single greatest mystery in all of climate science is what causes abrupt climate change in the absence of hominid emissions….”
I can vouch for that vast amount of research since I am trying to read my way through the 300+ papers he sent me as being the “most interesting”
gibleonzim says:
June 3, 2014 at 6:32 am
“What if theyâre right? What if those credentialed and capable of predicting these things⌔
That’s the funniest post of the day!
Maybe. The Marxist joke above is a real knee-slapper.
Atheism is the biggest scam, as its great-great-great-great-great-nephew dialectical materialism.
gibleonzim says:
June 3, 2014 at 6:32 am
What if theyâre right? What if those credentialed and capable of predicting these thingsâŚare right?
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“capable of predicting”
Sir, if you believe there are people who can predict the future, I advise you not to say so in public.
He forgot that the IPCC bluntly stated that their models CAN NOT predict future climate.
The IPCC actually said in the Science Report in TAR:
Dr. Robert Brown @ Duke University, has made a lot of comments at WUWT about Chaos Theory and its application to climate for anyone who wants more information.
They appear to take credit for being able to make short- to medium-term prediction, excluding only long-term prediction.
They can only make the short- to medium-term prediction by loading the dice. (Changing the temps.)
Ask an Englishman what he thinks of the Met office predictions….