Shock News : White House Science Czar Warns That Burning Fossil Fuels Will Cause A New Ice Age

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1. wwlee4411 says:

   June 29, 2014 at 2:51 pm

   Reblogged this on wwlee4411 and commented:
   It can’t be global warming because there hadn’t been any for 17 years now. So they have to go the other way and hope pele don’t think. That’s why they are now passing it off as “Climate Catastrophe.” That way they have all the bases covered. Either way it goes it’s a man made catastrophe. Which ever way the temperature goes they have an excuse. Especially since the weather always changes. Forget about standard deviations. The weather should always be on the average. “Figures don’t lie, but liars do figure.”

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2. Chip Bennett says:

   June 29, 2014 at 3:06 pm

   Winston Smith isn’t doing his job well enough. That 1940s-to-1970s cooling trend has been rewritten as a warming trend. The referenced article is clearly out-of-date.

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3. Chandra says:

   June 29, 2014 at 3:13 pm

   Does this: “a total of about .2? …. a decrease of only 4? would probably be sufficient to start another ice age”
   imply this:
   “White House Science Czar Warns That Burning Fossil Fuels Will Cause A New Ice Age”?

   No, it is a comparison to give an idea of relative magnitude. If I said “20 cents is a lot of money to spend if all I will ever have is $4” would you think I meant that spending 20 cents *will* cause me to lose $4?

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4. emsnews says:

   June 29, 2014 at 3:17 pm

   Smith will feel the wrath of the rats!

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5. jdseanjd says:

   June 29, 2014 at 4:08 pm

   Hansen, Ehrlich, Holdren. HEH, merchants of doom & death.
   Spinal flexibility 100%. Integrity zero.
   What doth it profit a man…?

   I still have a rather battered copy of ‘ A Blueprint for Survival ‘, published 1972, as a Penguin Special Paperback. I read it first, 1972, as a 19 year old student, focusing then on the next pint & the current beauty.

   The dynamics of finite resources & exponential growth of demand were emphasised.
   Oil demand, for example was going to exceed supply by the year 2000, with, by 1975, of then known world reserves, only 12.5 % depleted.

   It was a Club of Rome scare project, with a host of High Panjandrums of academia endorsing it.
   34 Names, most with 3 or 4 bunches of letters behind those names, happily signed a ‘statement of support’.

   Including the UNESCO Eugenicist, Sir Julian Huxley FRS. Google him.
   Also acknowledged for his ‘valuable comments’ is The Right Rev. Hugh Montefiore, among others.

   It seems there is absolutely no shortage at all, from Malthus (1798) to now, of clerical & academic
   control freak cowards anxious to slaughter their fellow human beings for fear of a possible future problem.

   1972 was also the year the murderous EPA falsely banned DDT as carcinogenic.
   60 million deaths, mostly children in the third world since then, maybe 80 million.
   More than Stalin killed, more than Hitler & Mao.

   And now it looks rather possible that our beautiful & marvellous planet is a pressure cooker,
   manufacturing oil, water & natural gas within the mantle :

   References to follow.

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   • gregole says:

     June 29, 2014 at 4:30 pm

     jd,

     Thanks for weighing in with your memories – I too read Holdren, Erhlich et al in my youth.

     http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1970s-ice-age-scare/#comment-256045

     Ah, we’re older now… funny though; new scams filled in right behind the old ones.

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     • jdseanjd says:

       June 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm

       Cheers, gregole, for that reference. Reminded me that the ‘Limits to Growth’ was based on computer models, also known as lazy guesswork.. 🙂

       Yes, a few years provide a bit of perspective.

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   • jdseanjd says:

     June 29, 2014 at 6:10 pm

     Deaths from DDT ‘ban’ : Michael Crichton’s excellent best seller, ‘State of Fear’. Best introduction I’ve so far seen for non-scientists to the global warming scare scam.
     Also : Wildavsky, Aaron : ‘But is it True ? A Citizens Guide to Environmental Health and Safety Issues.’ Cambridge : Harvard University Press, 1994 or 5. 25 pages on DDT, also discusses Alar, Love Canal, asbestos, the ozone hole, global warming & acid rain.

     Water, oil & gas witin the mantle : http://www.wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/13/new-evidence-for-oceans-of-water-deep-in-the-earth/
     Especially the comments.

     Now wouldn’t that stuff two rude fingers up the nostrils of the Bankster 1%s with their scarcity based UN Agenda 21 plot for World Control, & depopulation, promulgated so gleefully for them by their murderous & cowardly ‘tame’ ‘scientists’ & ‘clerics’.

     Sanity & morality shall prevail.

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     • darrylb says:

       June 29, 2014 at 7:53 pm

       ‘State of Fear’ – well worth the read. Too bad Crichton is no longer with us.

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       • jdseanjd says:

         June 29, 2014 at 8:04 pm

         Yes indeed, darryl, a quality man. RIP.
   • darrylb says:

     June 29, 2014 at 7:52 pm

     JD. I was surprised, angry, but then I could see why an alarmist and eugenicist was given the position of science czar. I guess they would be happy if us little people were never born.

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     • jdseanjd says:

       June 29, 2014 at 8:31 pm

       It goes a little deeper than that, darrylb.
       The whole agenda behind global warming is depopulation & control.

       It’s not just they’d be happy if we weren’t born, they’re killing us.
       Look into the EPA/DDT tragedy. Look into Chemtrails & David Lim.
       Google the Georgia Guidestones. Try : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVeA07d2F_I
       7 mins. OR : put in youtube search box : 5 billion human beings to be murdered – – New World…

       Google : all wars are bankers wars

       They’re not just lying to us on an industrial scale re global warming so they can make a few quid on taxing inflated heating bills, or on cap & trade. The deeper agenda is depopulation & control.

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       • _Jim says:

         June 29, 2014 at 8:56 pm

         jdseanjd says June 29, 2014 at 8:31 pm
         It goes a little deeper than that, darrylb.
         The whole agenda behind global warming is depopulation & control.

         I don’t think that’s it at all, We’re being governed in large part by busybodies, nincompoops, idiots and other ne’er do wells not fit to sit even on a city council.

         Those not fitting into the previous imbecilic categories are inclined to be psychopaths or sociopaths hell bent on power for power’s sake. The fraction left haven’t a wit of sense when it comes to engineering, physics, chemistry or any other applied science field that makes things ‘work’ in the real world.

         That, in short, is how I see it.

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       • duke1959 says:

         June 29, 2014 at 10:14 pm

         Why do you guys always have to go so fringe? Both you and Tony/Steve are Chemtrails nuts. You lose credibility in your other arguments. I noticed that Michael Crichton didn’t mention them in “State of Fear”. They are only meteorological events that happen as jet exhaust reacts to certain atmospheric conditions.
       • stevengoddard says:

         June 29, 2014 at 10:16 pm

         What are you lying about now?
       • jdseanjd says:

         June 29, 2014 at 11:26 pm

         Michael Crichton’s book was published 2004. The World has moved on.
       • _Jim says:

         June 29, 2014 at 10:20 pm

         re: duke1959 June 29, 2014 at 10:14 pm

         Ascribing to the many the words of a few, since, perhaps 1959 …

         Perhaps specializing in strawman constructs as well; yet to be seen, such talent as that.
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       • jdseanjd says:

         June 29, 2014 at 11:14 pm

         Jim, the man who abhors information, imparts no information again, preferring to indulge in a little name calling. If that’s your bag, Jim…

         Google May 1st 1776.

         4 sites to impart some info : OR : below, means put in youtube search box, if references given do not work.

         http://www.wewhoopposedeception.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/the-1776-agenda-of-the-new-world-order-ordered-by-a-rothschild-designed-by-a-jesuit/
         An article, most illuminating.

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYX-2HaX0So
         OR : Pawns In The Game Video of a speech by William Guy Carr
         1 hr 35 mins. 14 Oct 2012.
         Helps to find his free online book. Even more illuminating.

         OR ; youtube & : The Money Masters – the Rothschilds mafia controls the Fed and…
         3 hrs 30 mins & worth it.

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EBowBPwNW4
         OR : Ted Gunderson – CIA & Satanism
         1 hr 9 mins
       • _Jim says:

         June 30, 2014 at 12:07 am

         re: jdseanjd June 29, 2014 at 11:14 pm

         The man (or ???) who is accepting, without proof, any and all conspiracy theories …

         One wonders how much business experience or other practical experience you have in the world, outside of the (probably) narrow field of your specialty (you know, your occupation of job experience.)

         In past years, people like yourself would gravitate towards being a “Bircher”, a member of the conspiratorially-minded group called the John Birch Society.

         So, you’re involved in nothing new, peddling nothing new, instead you’ve got the same-old same-old that’s been around since at least the 1950’s.

         The problem is, you’ve now turned into an acolyte for the conspiracy industry. Just like an AGW acolyte. Very little difference.

         I highly recommend you search for the on-line account of a “Debate with a Bircher” and get an idea of how brain-washed you really are.

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6. John Burns says:

   June 29, 2014 at 5:02 pm

   It is claimed that 2012 was easily the hottest year ever in America. I decided to see what the highest temperature recorded in the nation was then; so far I have not been able with Google to find any listings. Presumably those highest temperatures would be higher than any previously recorded. However, I suspect that is not the case. How odd that America’s hottest year would fail to produce its record high temperature!

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7. jlc says:

   June 29, 2014 at 6:15 pm

   This was from 1971 http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=873
   Change headline “Warns” to “Warned”

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8. reformedii says:

   June 29, 2014 at 6:47 pm

   This might have to go under the: “You Can’t Make This Stuff Up!” category, since his boss [The King, Messiah] may get his panties in a wad!

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9. DHF says:

   June 29, 2014 at 9:11 pm

   Agree with jlc:
   You should change headline from “Warns” to “Warned”.

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10. jdseanjd says:

    June 29, 2014 at 11:37 pm

    If duke 1959 prefers something less ‘fringe’, though I find a plot to lie about the planet warming pretty fringe myself, he might like to try the good Dr Tim Ball :
    http://www.drtimball.com
    & put in his search box : “Overpopulation”
    His essay : ” Overpopulation the fallacy behind the fallacy of global warming ” is an eyeopener.

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11. Gail Combs says:

    June 30, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    _Jim says “….I don’t think that’s it at all, We’re being governed in large part by busybodies, nincompoops, idiots and other ne’er do wells not fit to sit even on a city council….”
    >>>>>>>>>
    _Jim still clings to his rose colored glasses despite my many attempts to remove them. He only see the “Useful Idiots” and not the hand that direct them. The last quote is from Carroll Quigley who was Bill Clinton’s mentor and it states quite bluntly that the Banksters have been the hand behind the scenes since 1810.

    Pascal Lamy is a SOCIALIST and not a John Bircher. He was high up in the EU bureaucracy and was World Trade Organization Director-General for two terms. He too says quite bluntly that it was all planned before most of us were born.

    Pascal Lamy: Whither Globalization?
    …climate change negotiations are not just about the global environment but global economics as well — the way that technology, costs and growth are to be distributed and shared….

    Can we balance the need for a sustainable planet with the need to provide billions with decent living standards? Can we do that without questioning radically the Western way of life?…

    The reality is that, so far, we have largely failed to articulate a clear and compelling vision of why a new global order matters — and where the world should be headed. Half a century ago, those who designed the post-war system — the United Nations, the Bretton Woods system, the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) — were deeply influenced by the shared lessons of history.

    All had lived through the chaos of the 1930s — when turning inwards led to economic depression, nationalism and war. All, including the defeated powers, agreed that the road to peace lay with building a new international order — and an approach to international relations that questioned the Westphalian, sacrosanct principle of sovereignty — rooted in freedom, openness, prosperity and interdependence….

    SO who were the principals involved in the Bretton Woods system? A Fabian Socialist from the London School of Economics and a Soviet Spy in the US treasury department.

    Global Governance: Lessons from Europe

    What can the world learn about global governance from the diplomatic model of the European Union?

    …It was more than half a century ago that the Frenchman Jean Monet, one of the shapers of post-war Europe, said, “The sovereign nations of the past can no longer provide a framework for the resolution of our present problems. And the European Community itself is no more than a step towards the organizational forms of tomorrow’s world.” His assessment was as valid then as it is now.

    What is global governance? For me, global governance describes the system we set up to assist human society to achieve its common purpose in a sustainable manner — that is, with equity and justice.

    Growing interdependence requires that our laws, our social norms and values, our mechanisms for framing human behavior be examined, debated, understood and operated together as coherently as possible….

    …the European construction is the most ambitious experiment to date in supranational governance. It is the story of a desired, defined and organized interdependence between its member states.

    What marks the essence of the European governance paradigm is the coming together of a political will, a goal to be attained as well as an institutional set-up…

    …In the longer term, we should have both the G20 and the international agencies reporting to the “parliament” of the United Nations. In this respect, a revamping of the UN Economic and Social Council could lend support to the recent resolution adopted by the UN General Assembly on a UN-system-wide coherence.

    This would constitute a potent mix of leadership, inclusiveness and action to ensure coherent and effective global governance. With time, the G20 could even be a response to the reform of the UN Security Council.

    But a structure of this type cannot be an empty vessel. It needs to be underpinned by a set of core principles and values.

    And this is precisely what German Chancellor Angela Merkel has proposed with the creation of a Charter for Sustainable Economic Activity. It is a commendable effort to provide a “new global economic contract,” to anchor economic globalization on a bedrock of ethical principles and values which would renew the trust that citizens need to have that globalization can indeed work for them.
    

    This isn’t something that has just come to light either. Quigley wrote the following in his book published in 1966.

    excerpts from the book Tragedy and Hope A History of the World in Our Time

    Pg. 51: The merchant bankers of London had already at hand in 1810-1850 the Stock Exchange, the Bank of England, and the London money market when the needs of advancing industrialism called all of these into the industrial world which they had hitherto ignored. In time they brought into their financial network the provincial banking centers, organized as commercial banks and savings banks, as well as insurance companies, to form all of these into a single financial system on an international scale which manipulated the quantity and flow of money so that they were able to influence, if not control, governments on one side and industries on the other. The men who did this, looking backward toward the period of dynastic monarchy in which they had their own roots, aspired to establish dynasties of international bankers and were at least as successful at this as were many of the dynastic political rulers. The greatest of these dynasties, of course, were the descendants of Meyer Amschel Rothschild (1743-1812) of Frankfort, whose male descendants, for at least two generations, generally married first cousins or even nieces. Rothschild’s five sons, established at branches in Vienna, London, Naples, and Paris, as well as Frankfort, cooperated together in ways which other international banking dynasties copied but rarely excelled.

    Pg. 53: The influence of financial capitalism and of the international bankers who created it was exercised both on business and on governments, but could have done neither if it had not been able to persuade both these to accept two “axioms” of its own ideology. Both of these were based on the assumption that politicians were too weak and too subject to temporary popular pressures to be trusted with control of the money system; accordingly, the sanctity of all values and the soundness of money must be protected in two ways: by basing the value of money on gold and by allowing bankers to control the supply of money. To do this it was necessary to conceal, or even to mislead, both governments and people about the nature of money and its methods of operation.
    Pg. 62: In addition to their power over government based on government financing and personal influence, bankers could steer governments in ways they wished them to go by other pressures. Since most government officials felt ignorant of finance, they sought advice from bankers whom they considered to be experts in the field. The history of the last century shows, as we shall see later, that the advice given to governments by bankers, like the advice they gave to industrialists, was consistently good for bankers, but was often disastrous for governments, businessmen, and the people generally. Such advice could be enforced if necessary by manipulation of exchanges, gold flows, discount rates, and even levels of business activity.

    Pg. 324: the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world….

    Pg. 326-327: It must not be felt that these heads of the world’s chief central banks were themselves substantive powers in world finance. They were not. Rather, they were the technicians and agents of the dominant investment bankers of their own countries, who had raised them up and were perfectly capable of throwing them down. The substantive financial powers of the world were in the hands of these investment bankers (also called “international” or “merchant” bankers) who remained largely behind the scenes….

    Pg. 936-937: Behind this unfortunate situation lies another, more profound, relationship… It involves the organization of tax-exempt fortunes of international financiers into foundations to be used for educational, scientific, “and other public purposes.” Sixty or more years ago, public life in the West was dominated by the influence of “Wall Street.” This term has nothing to do with its use by the Communists to mean monopolistic industrialism, but, on the contrary, refers to international financial capitalism deeply involved in the gold standard, foreign-exchange fluctuations, floating of fixed-interest securities and, to a lesser extent, flotation of industrial shares for stock-exchange markets. This group, which in the United States, was completely dominated by J. P. Morgan and Company… Their connection with the Ivy League colleges rested on the fact that the large endowments of these institutions required constant consultation with the financiers of Wall Street (or its lesser branches on State Street, Boston, and elsewhere) and was reflected in the fact that these endowments, even in 1930, were largely in bonds rather than in real estate or common stocks. As a consequence of these influences, as late as the 1930’s, J. P. Morgan and his associates were the most significant figures in policy making at Harvard, Columbia, and to a lesser extent Yale, while the Whitneys were significant at Yale, and the Prudential Insurance Company (through Edward D. Duffield) dominated Princeton….

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