There has been a sharp decline in summer afternoon temperatures in the US over the past 80 years, with three of the five coolest summers coming in the past twenty years.
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This summer is a real shiver fest. I don’t even open windows at night, at all! This is really significantly cooler. And it snowed in Norway this week, too.
AC sure helps! Those of old enough to remember no AC – just fans – appreciate CO2 for the miracle gas it is.
I am in mid NC and it has been cool enough at night ( 64 °F last night) to cool the house down with fans and not turn on the A/C during the day.
Of course since the blasted goats ate the control wires to the heat exchangers we CAN’T turn on the A/C…. – I am sure glad it is a cool summer.
[We still haven’t found the latest hole in the fence they are wiggling through.]
AHA! Global warming caused the goats to eat the wires! Put that as #25 on the list of things AGW has done.
You and Chris Booker (UK) need to take a basic course in meteorology, or perhaps just get out a bit more.
Your only “research” seems to be in finding flaws in obscure data sets and trying to make out this somehow invalidates the work of thousands of scientists around the world.
The simple truth is that you don’t have to trust this scandalist bunch of scientists, Just step away from your word processor for awhile and stick your head outside and ask farmers, cruising sailors, and anyone that spends most of their lives outdoors and ask them about the crazy weather we are experiencing. See if you can convince them that the planet is “cooling”.
Don’t be surprised if they give you funny looks.
Might I suggest, until you and Booker invest in your own supercomputers and remote sensing satellites, you might want to stay out of trying to out smart the people who really are trying their best to understand weather and climate change on a daily basis.
Why don’t you ask the millions of farmers who abandoned the midwest during the 1930s because of heat and drought? You have no idea what you are talking about.
The weather has always been “crazy” You just never paid attention before.
I wonder when the last time LHK actually:
1. Took an air temperature reading
2. Slung a Psychometric
3. Made a dew point measurement
4. Witnessed the formation of dew owing to radiational cooling of some flat surface
5. Storm chased.
6. Personally saw a ‘roll cloud’
7. Observed continuous nickel sized hail beating down on the car roof so hard one could not hear oneself think …
8. Tracked a storm complex from start to finish using our WSR-88D RADAR resources
and on and on and on ..
How about it LHK? You have any ‘field’ experience?
Or is it just ‘book’ learning?
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Brawk! You are not a climatologist! Brawk! LHK wants a cracker! Brawk!
First and foremost, Jim, you are just blithering about WEATHER, not climate. Do you even know the difference? Psychometric? Can you give us a definition of that word? Have you ever done any of the things you mentioned? Can you tell us what any of what you delineate has to do with climate change?
I don’t know where you people live, but I have friends across the country and they all have commented on the heat, the costal flooding and the storms. I live in the Midwest, it’s been close to 90 for nearly a month. Believe what you will, but those of us with working brains and scientific degrees are going to side with the ones who have done research that wasn’t funded by big oil, and by what we see.
BTW, if you don’t believe the sea level is rising, take a drive down some of the beachside streets in Miami at high tide.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Sea level has been rising for 20,000 years. Most east coast “sea level rise” is due to land subsidence. There has been no sea level rise on the west coast for 30 years. Weather has always been severe and crazy. You are hysterical about things you don’t understand.
From 1871
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1298497
Members of my family live in and around Miami, and have for generations. Not one of them has seen any sea level rise. Same goes for my uncle who has condos in the Keys.
I trust Big Oil over Big Brother any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
re: Janet Cox Tuhey June 24, 2014 at 12:27 pm
Sorry Janet honey, Google Chrome auto-correct in action. Correct term is “Psychrometer”. I’m SURE you know what that is.
My point was in response to LHK who wrote:
Do you see the portion in bold above. Good. I’m sure you can and now you know I was addressing this specific point by LHK.
BTW, if you can’t follow a discussion as simple as this, maybe you shouldn’t be here. This is almost Jaydee Smith level “mis-comprehension” on your part. A gross err in reading and/or comprehension. Got that? Please pay closer attention in the future. Going back over something as simple as this is really boring, but I do it for your edification, honey.
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Not in the Chicago area.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/chicago-il/60608/june-weather/348308
It’s summer. It’s going to seem hot relative to winter. These warmists have gone into full blown climate – hypochondria.
Janet, I live in Miami…….on the water…..you’re wrong
It’s funny how the warmist cult squawks about the difference between climate and weather, but always points to weather anomalies to support their argument.
I went and looked at Springport IN weather. Since May 1 there have been a total of 14 days with a temperature that is 85F or higher (I’m counting 85 as “almost 90′). About half were in May, half in June. So…. 7 days in May, and 7 days in June were “almost 90”. Why should we believe anything you say, when you don’t even know the weather in your home town? I didn’t bother to check, but I’m guessing you “average temperature” was…. pretty average.
re-inforcing delusions. If you hear about it enough, you start to see what is not there. That is why SCIENCE relies on hard data, not anecdotes and mistaken memories.
And the hard data says you and your friends are caught up in a mob panic. Like Lemmings. Unable to think for yourself, you rely on others to think for you.
I guess that brings some solace to those with 2 digit IQs.
Or have a lightening strike between you and a friend, knocking both of you to the ground while a tornado ripped through a trailer park at the bottom of the mountain you were trying to get off of….
Or been in a cave during an earthquake and watched the bedding plates in the limestone move…
Or almost died walking home in a blizzard at age 6….
Or joined the gang of neighbors using chainsaws and tractors and trucks to remove the trees downed by a hurricane on our dirt road that the town never bothers to clean up….
Or helped a neighbor bury their horses and cows killed by the tornado went through…
Or watch all the grass burn and die so no hay is available and everyone is cutting tree limbs to feed their livestock. (I called my contact on the northern border of NH and had a 53 ft trailer load of Canadian hay brought down so my neighbors and I could split it.)
Ma Nature can be a real nasty B!TCH but the townies never seem to figure that out….
Just wait till the ramifications of the Food Safety Modernization Act hit about the same time as the next mega-drought and watch them SCREAM. Not that the idiots will be able to connect the dots.
Nobody around here (Adirondacks) has noticed any difference in the climate in many generations. Everybody around here scoffs at global warming, especially the farmers. Hay farmers still grow hay, dairy farmers still raise cows, nobody has switched to figs or coconuts. Your whole “ask the farmers, sailors” argument means you believe people will notice a 0.8 C rise in global temperatures per century, from looking at the USA where the temperatures have not changed at all!
You, sir, are a blubbering fool.
Fool says “Your only “research” seems to be in finding flaws in obscure data sets and trying to make out this somehow invalidates the work of thousands of scientists around the world.”
Steven, stop finding flaws in those obscure NASA and NOAA datasets that thousands of scientists around the world depend on for their (cough) “work”
Wit 24 hour weather stations they need to sensationalize the weather to justify their existence. Witness a certain station that now “names” winter storms!
LKH-“ask them about the crazy weather we are experiencing.” You didn’t major in debating, did you? First, if you had half a brain you’d know that to be taken seriously the term “crazy” would have to have a scientific definition. But, alas, that’s the type of word that the definition is in the eye of the beholder, right? Second, once “crazy” is taken care of, do you have proof it was never crazy before? Of course you don’t. Good bye.
“Obscure”??? Do you have any clue what the data sets are?
Apparently not with that level of ignorance.
Hey LHK! Welcome! We all think you are wrong — but at least you didn’t call everyone here Nazis and death merchants. 🙂
You say, “Just step away from your word processor for awhile and stick your head outside and ask farmers, cruising sailors, and anyone that spends most of their lives outdoors and ask them about the crazy weather we are experiencing. ”
I suspect that you must not follow Steven’s blog here much… I do not think that there is anywhere else on the web where so many reports from farmers, sailors and scientists have been posted. The thing that makes it especially pertinent is that Steven has found the same reports from the last 150 years — long before human CO2 would have had even a theoretical climate effect. Seriously, if a sailor today says that pack ice is less or that coastal glaciers are melting, why is that any more believable that sailors saying the exact same thing 100 years ago?
Where did Janet go? Did she just ‘strike’ and then run off? (coward)
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I live in the Midwest (SW Ohio) and it has not been above 90 for a month. Most of the time this summer it has been in the 80’s. When it’s been above 90 it is in the low 90’s.
Heck , here in North Central Texas we have _not_ had our usual quota of 90 deg days owing to some wild Rossby Wave action (“jet stream” to the ‘public’) this year which have delivered several cold fronts and really modest amounts of rain. Presently we are in an unsettled wx pattern serving up rain via such mechanisms as a MCS (Mesoscale Convective System) which formed the other morning in the Panhandle then moved SE and delivered on the order of 7 inches or rain to the parched Granbury Tejas area!
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Janet? Hello? Janet – are you there … hello degreed Janet? … Bueller?
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Aha! Obviously the time of day when the excess heat goes to hide in the ocean deeps. Notify Trenberth, stat!
Remember those Midwestern summers before the AGW scare when it seldom ever hit 90 F, and it was always so pleasant with no “storms” ? Nope… me neither
All I remember from the Midwest was Tornado clouds forming, Hail the size of your fist, Thunderstorms that would rattle your teeth, Freezing Cold Winters and Blazing Hot Summers… and I was only there for a few years while I earned my degree and then got married to a cow farmer with a degree in physics.
Just because I have a life I don’t have time to return here very often. I KNEW I was making a mistake commenting in a room full of deniers. But Jim’s comment somehow could not go unanswered. I was referred here from another blog which passes itself off as full of “experts” on your so-called agw. Just need to say a couple of things, then will “Troll” on my merry way. For one thing, I am gardener, outdoors person, former naturalist at a major university, and my daughter is Meteorologist. She thinks Jim is a weather hobbyist trying to impress with lots of terms deling with, as I said before, weather, not climate. Not that that is a bad thing, but please keep out of the way of the professionals who are trying to do their jobs and save lives, not just seek the thrill of seeing a tornado, and clog the roads during some very serious times.
Climate change is not a series of anecdotes, it is a pattern of overall changes worldwide. Yes, I did comment on the weather here, but to make a point, not as proof or disproof. She laughed through all of your comments and asked me how dumb was I to comment here. Miami is the proverbial canary in the col mine and very worrisome to those who study that part of the country. There have been several studies carried out on the flooding, which discredits the sinking land supposition. Of course there is no costal flooding on the west coast because it is higher, and mountainous, as is the entire Pacific cost.
Well, it has been fun, but I must go nd check out the GREAT NEWS — The ban on same sex marriage has been overturned!! Enjoy your delusional lives and I hope none of you are affected by the changes to come in the next 100 years or so. Tell your grandchildren not to buy any land on the east coast or in Indonesia.
Steven Goddard (or whatever your name is), I understand global climate change quite well. You, dear sir, write many words, but say very little of substance. I think I’ll stick with those who can reproduced scientifically and verified, rather than one who has been discredited several places.
Your idea of science is ad homs, gossip and hearsay. I normally work with data, thanks.
A word of advice? Get over it and get over yourself.
Having said that, do what you will, say what you want, BUT, be prepared for some, well, what they call BLOWBACK.
You try ANY of your tricks over on http://realclimate.org/ and your precious comments would never see the light of day … that’s the difference between ‘them’ and us.
Clear?
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If only Janet had lived through the 1930’s and the Dust Bowl. Or maybe on the Gulf Coast during Hurricane Camille. Or maybe during the Medieval Warming Period, or the Little Ice Age … or maybe the last Ice Age itself.
At the very least she should take a gander through all the historical references Steve has put together.
She does sound pretty hysterical though. I bet one more prediction of imminent doom from the climate fanatics would put her over the edge. If only she knew none of their predictions has come true.
“Climate change is not a series of anecdotes, it is a pattern of overall changes worldwide.”
Ms. Tuhey, please name one climate that has changed in the last 100 years.
Okay, Ms. Tuhey, I’ll make it easier: name ANY climate!
re: Janet Cox Tuhey June 25, 2014 at 6:43 pm
Trying to impress, look superior, whatever. Not impressed, you don’t look superior, whatever.
Ouch. That hurt. Not.
So you took the low road; jumped on a typo. Good girl. Doing Goddess’s work, no doubt.
This is probably not true. Your daughter sent you here. She’s the one fully steeped in AGW dogma. And it’s your AGW BTW.
We’d be fine if it just went away, no, if nuts like you AND the AGW industry just ‘went away’.
You will be back. This isn’t trolling, BTW.
What you’re doing are a series of ‘drive bys’.
Not impressed. Many of us are likewise. I was brought up appreciating the outdoors and working gardens as well. And NOT just for hobby like you probably do.
How is that different from you?
Oh, I forgot, you are superior, by your own definition. How grand. And self-referential.
Again, not impressed.
Storm spotter and amateur meteorologist. Something I’ve worked at for 30 plus years … and your daughter – just graduated?
Newbie then. Probably never ever saw a lenticular cloud form over a metropolitan area yet either. Newbie.
Has she ever heard of Alan Moller? I attended classes he taught … he has published many papers on meteo stuff and especially on Mesoscale/severe storm genesis. Look him up. Get educated. Your daughter too.
We SPOT and provide ‘ground truth’ for the NWS ‘professionals’, dunderhead. Geez. What a marroon.
And ONCE again you missed the point of the original post I made … no one said you weren’t slow or thick. This proves it.
WOW. It’s not? IS that why Steve posts data and records from the past? Gee, thanks, did not know that … you are a wealth of valuable information found nowhere else.
A couple of irrelevant comments.
Fabrication. Fantasy. No facts here. Ignores other land masses rebounding after weight of glaciation removed. Shows poster is NOT versed let alone well-versed on this topic.
A stay has also been placed on at least one of those decisions.
You will have to wait awhile before you can marry your dog, howver.
As an aside, I take it that you would rather have three judge panels making up law versus votes by the populace (you know, the people)? I thought libs were willing to abide by votes of the people – democracy and all that. I guess not. Dems or ‘dims’ are for a ruling oligarchy. Bet you can hardly wait for the Arkansas Broadbeam (Hillary), compelte with bad heart and fainting spells to be ‘elected’ too.
Look who is talking about ‘delusion’, a lib. Libs are not very smart, not very sharp, nor very observant nor based in reality.
For instance, libs think two males or two females can marry and have children. How STUPID is that? Have you forgotten about basic biology and how the reproduction process works in homosapians (NOT homosexuals)? What a maroon.
What about your prophet Algore (former Vice Pres. Albert Gore Jr) who every good lib should know – he buys property on the coast – was this very wise?
No, you don’t. You have been well-trained or indoctrinated on this ‘subject’. That’s it. No brain power involved, really.
No, he writes very much ‘with substance’.
Safer to remain wrapped tightly within a cocoon of ignorance, eh?
Most libs prefer it that way. Numb and ignoarnt, and that is no way to go through life, ‘dumb and stupid’.
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“I think I’ll stick with those who can reproduced scientifically and verified, rather than one who has been discredited several places.”
Yeah, like Michael Mann, and the ‘don’t-allow-skeptics-to publish’ crowd. Great bunch!
If you are in a room full of deniers, that is your problem. Find another room. However this blog only has a handful of deniers, and you are one of them.
You lost as soon as you decided to use infantile pejoratives instead of data, facts or science. You have only yourself to blame for your behavior.