By: Seth Borenstein The Associated Press, Published on Tue Sep 02 2014
WASHINGTON—As the world gets warmer, parts of North America, Europe and Asia could see more frequent and stronger visits of cold air, a new study says. Researchers say that’s because of shrinking ice in the seas off Russia.
New study finds global warming, melting sea ice, connected to polar vortex | Toronto Star
Last year they blamed the cold on missing Barents Sea ice. This year, Barents Sea ice is above normal – so they moved their BS to a different region. Climate experts make Bernie Madoff seem like a saint.
My clock-radio alarm came on playing this story. Needless to say, the jolt of angry adrenaline prevented my customary snooze cycle.
Like we never had cold waves before! What caused all the cold waves during the 18th,19th and 20th centuries, long before evil humanity and capitalist greed screwed up the climate?
So the “logic” is that less sea ice allows cold Arctic air to move farther south? No matter where the ice is missing?
Don’t forget that this is supposedly happening in the dead of winter when the Arctic is frozen solid…..
Trenberth refuted this.. because it disagreed with HIS lamebrained idea.
Reminds me of the scene in the Blues Brothers movie where Belushi was lying in the tunnel at the mercy of his gun toting ex-fiancee. He just keep pulling out lame excuse after lame excuse, and got away with it.
As I recall she dumped a 30 round mag at him and just kept missing… aren’t we about at excuse number 30 for the oh so misnamed “pause”?
about 35 i believe.
pinroot, it works just like the “Missing Global Warming Heat” that on little cats’ feet sneaks down to the bottom of the chilly ocean depths and hides out there patiently waiting to spring out of the ocean depths and boil the entire US Navy and half the mermaids on Earth to death.
Anyway none of it makes good nonsense. I’ll even bet that Al Gore told his masseuse that she was his first, and if she voted for Al Gore in 2000 she LOL-LOL-LOL believed him.
Say Tony, isn’t the Russian side of the Arctic where all the sea ice went this year while it was on vacation?
Hey, there was a time when cold air was an indicator of a coming cold climate. The 1970’s, to be precise. I was just looking over one of those lengthy discussions at Judith Curry’s blog, and saw that several participants claimed that the “global cooling scare” is a myth. The claim seems to be that the scare existed only in newspapers and magazines, but not in scientific papers. After seeing that I came here to take a look at Steve’s global cooling pages. What I found is that most of the citations are indeed from magazines and newspapers, probably from the NYT most of all. But, reading the articles, I find that most of them cite highly regarded climatologists from the era. (Readers who have been around for a while may remember that the NYT had outstanding science coverage for quite a long time.) In any case, if someone has a bibliography of scientific papers on global cooling from that period, it might be worth posting up here. Apologies if it’s here and I missed it.
Here’s the Curry link; you have to search the comments for cooling:
http://judithcurry.com/2014/09/01/how-long-is-the-pause/
You may wish to show some of this to the science deniers – http://fabiusmaximus.com/2009/10/21/letter/
Thanks, Tom.
Here is a first hand account of the “Coming Ice Age Saga” by a reporter/physicist who was there as it happened
http://calderup.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/next-ice-age/#more-782
Nigel Calder (1931-2014) graduated from Cambridge University, and did two years’ work as a research physicist for the Philips Group, (Yeah the same Phillips family that bankrolled Karl Marx) He was a science writer on the original staff of New Scientist in 1956 and became editor of that magazine in 1962. He wrote several books popularizing science.
Nigel died just two months ago. He will be missed.
Thanks, Gail. When I think about cooling/warming I tend to recall Marcott’s signature graph. If one remembers that he disavows the 20th century warming that he put in that graph, and mentally removes the blade of his hockey stick, what is left depicts a multi-millennial cooling trend. I’m not confident about any long term climate predictions, but if I had to make one I would suspect that cooling is more likely than warming.
Geologists know the earth is in a temporary (and long in the tooth) warm spike in an Ice Age.
“Researchers say that’s because of shrinking ice in the seas off Russia.”
And of course it has nothing to do with all the volcanic activity around Canada and Russia giving the region black ice.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfrx99_six-russian-volcanoes-erupt_news
http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/russia.html
Last year they blamed the cold on missing Barents Sea ice. This year, Barents Sea ice is above normal – so they moved their BS to a different region.
Couldn’t the “Barents Sea” and the “seas off Russia” be the same place? Not sayin’ that the explanation makes logical sense, just that geography isn’t the problem.
How high exactly is Barrows above sea level ?
http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam
The humor and sarcasm make me smile but like many hoaxes they live long. Though this and equivalent blogs have served as a focus point for refuting the prevailing illogic the fact that the dominant media continues to spin failed arguments without any editorial control or reason is the problem. How does one inform the majority who are fed via NPR, National Geographic and most large scale media?
The fact that this AGW hoax has gone on this long is just one more indicator that modern society is failing. Many people no longer want the responsibility of thinking for themselves.
Their thinking seems to go something like this: “Why should I waste time researching the answers when I can just depend on my elected officials? And, if they lie to me, so what? It’s not my fault. What’s on TV this evening?
As long as they have their “bread and circuses” they think they are doing just fine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bread_and_circuses
Much of the media is owned by banking interestslink
The banking interest have a vested interest in the CAGW scam:
The World Bank’s Robert Watson was head of the IPCC.
The Copenhagen talks broke down thanks to the Danish text leak, a secret draft agreement .. [that] hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank
The World Bank released a very inflammatory document: The World Bank 4 degree report in full here and summary for policymakers here.
All the while the World Bank is lecturing the West on the evils of CO2 it has MASSIVELY increased its lending for Coal Plants! GRAPH of World Bank spending on coal fired plants in the third world.
World Bank: Record sums were invested last year in coal power.. (Much of this is money from the USA tax payer BTW)
More than 1,000 New Coal Plants Planned Worldwide
Coal’s not dying — it’s just getting shipped abroad
The goal of Carbon Trading was to set up a worldwide trade in Carbon Credits (CCs), designed around a standard market mechanism, so that greenhouse gas producers could be penalised while greenhouse gas consumers could be rewarded. The easiest way to ‘consume’ CO2 is with trees so now The World Bank is removining third world farmers from their farmland.
OOPs, sorry tony, too many links in my September 3, 2014 at 11:00 pm comment.
1. The fossil fuels are of organic origin
2. The biosphere from which they originated was the most plentiful ever (i.e. Optimal atmosphere and temperature must have existed at that time)
3. The carbon deposited in the fuels originated as CO2 in the ancient atmosphere
4. The atmosphere is seriously depleted of CO2 and the carbon is locked out from doing any good for eons now.
5. The biosphere is suffering from lack of CO2
6. So for the good of the planet and humanity we need to liberate the carbon, in form of CO2, from the fossil fuels!
Anything wrong with the logic?
+1
IMO the IPCC are negligent in their underestimation of natural processes, and ‘climate scientists’ willfully ignore the evidence.
Nothing wrong with that logic. I would like to see CO2 at least at 1000 ppm preferably 2000 ppm
The earth is still to darn close to starvation levels!
Carbon dioxide starvation, the development of C4 ecosystems, and mammalian evolution
Carbon starvation in glacial trees recovered from the La Brea tar pits, southern California
So what they are saying is there is a huge negative feedback that they didn’t know about before making their strong positive feedback that climate models rely on obsolete. I am sure they are out there scrambling to change their models to a negative feedback.
I have this
Swampland I want to sell. It is a real steal at $100,000 an acre…Your
swamp is killing the planet, or so the warmist would have us believe.This is a comment in a document – ‘Recent Changes of Arctic Multiyear Sea Ice Coverage and the Likely Causes’ by Polyakov et al and is on on page 149.
The paper that Polyakov refers to is –
David Butman & Peter A. Raymond
NATURE GEOSCIENCE | LETTER
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v4/n12/full/ngeo1294.html
Oops I mad a hash of that one
Take two!
Your
swampland is killing the planet, or so the warmist would have us believe.This is a comment in a document – ‘Recent Changes of Arctic Multiyear Sea Ice Coverage and the Likely Causes’ by Polyakov et al and is on on page 149.
The paper that Polyakov refers to is –
David Butman & Peter A. Raymond
NATURE GEOSCIENCE | LETTER
And David Butman & Peter A. Raymond
NATURE GEOSCIENCE | LETTER
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v4/n12/full/ngeo1294.html
Where’s the coffee!
OH GOODY, now it is time to shove that paper down the EPAs throat and start wiping out beaver and filling in swamps.
Beaver carry ‘beaver fever’ or Giardia lamblia. The city closest to me takes the city water from the river just down stream from where the creek passing through my land empties. Someone paid a guy, 15 years ago to clear out the beaver. He killed over 100. Now they are all back.
Interesting the article NEGLECTS to mention that normal water disinfecting techniques, like chlorination DO NOT KILL the inactive cyst. I asked a guy I know in the city’s dept of health and yes there have been many cases in the city.
The problem is so well covered up that a friend had to send fecal samples from her son to the vet to get them tested for giardia because the doctor repeatedly refused to even look. When she presented him with the evidence they tried to have her arrested. (The poor little kid was sick to the point of dying because he could not eat – symptoms are diarrhea, vomiting, cramps.)
Effect of Chlorine on Giardia lamblia Cyst Viability
If you can stand an IRS 🙁 visit, go for it.
A heck of a lot more than Beavers carry Giarida, including possibly a family pet. Lots of stuff that used to be exceptional in the US or restricted more to the border regions migrating north in the country. American Trypanosomyisis from the feces of the “kissing bug”. That’s the American version of the African “sleeping sickness”. Infections with the nematode Ascaris lumbricoides (giant intestinal round worm) while still rare are on the rise. Leptospirosis is endemic now across the US pretty much when it once was found mostly in the deep south.
tom0mason says:
If you can stand an IRS 🙁 visit, go for it.
>>>>>>>>
Survival 101:
You never ever go to anything to do with the government and park anywhere nearby or give them your real name.
The USDA was going into the parking lots of livestock auctions and adding everyone’s land to their Premise ID ‘voluntary sign up’ (National Animal Identification System)
That’s nice of them. 🙁
Sounds like the old drill Sergeant ordering the ‘volunteers’ for KPs.
rah says….
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A lot of the rise in disease has to do with the WTO no quarantine rules allowing livestock imports and food imports into the USA without testing. The USA used to be tuberculosis free now we have TB found in imported Mexican cattle at slaughter.
From my research in 2008:
Cattle crossing facilities on the U.S. side of the border are operated primarily by private firms… at Santa Teresa, NM, Chihuahuan cattle producers [Mexican] operate both sides of the cattle port-of-entry
(wwwDOT)ers.usda.gov/publications/Agoutlook/june2001/AO282d.pdf
This also means cattle can be brought in from Latin America if Mexico allows it.
The USA exports prime quality beef and imports crap (McDonalds et al)
Total American Beef
Year ……live Cattle exports…. (Carcass wt. 1,000 pounds)
2004 ………………….460,314 ……………….15,721
2008………………….1,888,226……………….107,492
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Beef and veal imports (Carcass wt. 1,000 pounds)
Country 2004 2008 diseases
Uruguay 402,898 65,549 2001 FMD outbreak
Brazil 219,393 212,907 2005 FMD outbreak, Vesicular stomatitis, Bluetongue (now found in USA) Lymphatic filariasis, Leishmaniasis, Onchocerciasis (River Blindness), Trypanosoma cruzi,
Argentina 116,606 55,966 2008 FMD outbreak
Nicaragua 65,397 99,384 Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease),leptospirosis
Costa Rica 23,632 19,239 rabies, Naegleria fowler, Encephalitis, vesicular stomatitis viruses, Leptospirosis, Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease)
Mexico 19,495 43,783 tuberculosis, brucellosis “cattle tick fever,” Trypanosoma cruz, Vesicular stomatitis
Canada 1,062,420 841,242 tuberculosis, BSE
Panama (now listed as other) Trypanosomiasis (Chagas disease), Vesicular stomatitis
This chart shows how USDA cut back testing after WTO was created in 1995.
Note the significant drop in testing!
Summary of Tuberculosis Surveillance in California Cattle
# Tested………1995…..1996…..1997…….1998…….1999
Officials…….10,576…5,100 ….2,861 …..3,530…..1,425
Private Vets..15,921…17,100…19,930…18,189…22,863
@ Slaughter……39………58 ………64……….39………..58