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The Geordies head back to their home land….
The N.E. of England isn’t going anywhere!
I was commenting about the eastern drift of the continent towards Scandanavia, where many of the Geordies came from.
But Geordies don’t currently live in Scotland, they live in in the North East of England, specifically Tyneside, which isn’t going anywhere.
I speak as a Geordie myself!
England will wake up a third-rate country with not enough resources. Just like in soccer.
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Looks like the UK has a lot more to worry about besides some continental Drift.(Another O/T update and a real OH S….
Hey, We have election day in a few hours here in Sweden. Our elections do not have such rocking potential but a message will be sent. Here we have the ‘Moderate Party’ in power now. They are basically a leftist party but considered on the right by all the other parties that are left, lefter and more left. I won’t be voting for any of them, there is an SD option. We have an unemployment problem, a housing shortage, we have our government sending Swedish youth to other countries for employment, our govt. has set up employment offices in third world countries and is planning on flooding Sweden with unemployable unskilled non-workers. When the Swedish Universities pump out visiting foreign born Phds that cannot find work in our country(but demand citizenship) I really think some real consideration to social planning needs to take place before opening the floodgates even wider.
On the continental drift animation… I have been kind of keeping my eye out for one that would also contain timeline info of species development and extinction. If anyone has a link showing dinos living on whatever land mass name they want to call it shifting into the various continents I would be interested in seeing it. -Paul
“our govt. has set up employment offices in third world countries and is planning on flooding Sweden with unemployable unskilled non-workers.”
For the sakes of your homeland, do everything you can to stop it, and stop it now. Fail, and the clock will be ticking in Sweden just as it already is here in the UK.
And the Netherlands and Spain and France and Germany etc
About the Continental Drift I would move South if I could.
having recently read an article on the situation in sweden http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/20/the-living-hell-for-swedish-women-5-muslims-commit-nearly-77-6-of-all-rape-crimes/ i was horrified to see how far the situation has degraded, i wish you and all swedes well in the coming years,and hope you can take your country back.
It seems the Swedish election turned out a little better than it could have. Let’s watch how the establishment deals with the SD surge. Their instincts and Europe-wide establishment practice is to try and marginalize them, to the delight of the hard Left.
We voted early in the morning, around noon from our window we could see two little girls had set up a lemonade stand outside the polling station. I would have been more than happy with 10%. Looks like a much better showing for SD than we imagined possible.
This is very bad news.
On the principle of ‘monkey see, monkey do’, many other minorities are going to want to secede now. There’s Belgium, with it’s French and Dutch speaking tribes, and Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Spanish Catalonia, Tibet… It will also tend to legitimize Russia’s shenanigans in Ukraine [no doubt the KGB/FSB were busy litle beavers in Scotland, instigating the secessionist movement: ‘divide and conquer’ being part of their long term plans].
Then, as always, there’s the money angle: the UK taxpayers just might not forget about three hundred years of subsidies. The Scots should expect a bill. That will be *very* interesting. Will they pay up? And if they don’t… then what?
Scotland is gamblig on it’s fossil fuel reserves to hold up their economy and pay for secession. Won’t work, because the long term trend is for lower fossil fuel prices.
All in all, a disaster, plain and simple. An emotional issue, brought about by less than 7% of the Scottish electorate!
What the UK should do now is what the EU did to Ireland: the EU didn’t like Ireland’s ‘No’ vote on joining the EU. So, with no authority whatsoever, the EU called a Mulligan, and forced another vote. The second time around emotions weren’t as high — all the screaming and shouting had taken the starch out of the Irish — and so the EU got their ‘Yes’ vote.
The UK needs to do something. Because this makes everyone much worse off. And the cascade effect will cause widening ripples throughout the West, and really, around the world.
This is just what we need; more tribalism. And then what? The UN saves the day??
Just shoot me now. ?
Smokey your scribbling is pure socialist bs.
Dear ketchemandfleezem,
Thank you for your well thought out, very analytical comment. It is clearly supported by a formidable intelligence, which puts my comments to shame. The world is far better off now, following your superb and thoughtful analysis of the geo-political situation; your counter-points to each of my points leaves nothing more to discuss. ?
[PS: I am one-half Scottsh, and I sympathize with most of their current grievances. But on net balance, this was not a good outcome. There are better ways to resolve grievances than to reject over 300 years of mutual history in a one-time voting snit.]
[PPS: FYI, I am about as far from being a Socialist as it is possible to get. I am a firm believer in the original Constitution and Bill of Rights. What came after, not so much.]
just watch the civil unrest and the collapse of UK which now Scotland will be part of in the next 4 years.
The truth of the matter is that almost every nation on Earth is currently involved with an ethnic devolution of some kind or the other. In my opinion this is brought about by Globalization as each different minority attempts to find the one thing that they do well and corner the market on that thing before it is too late.
When the UN was created there were about 45 nations. After the European colonies became independent there were only about 100 nations. Today we are only about two coup d’états and a successful assignation short of a 200 member United Nations General Assembly, yet the Earth has no more surface area today than it did in 1945. What am I missing?
Smokey
I think you should look at it from the minority’s point of view in this particular case. The Community and Realm of Scotland, in the main, was an unwilling partner in the union (sheck out “Parcel of Rogues”). As for subsidies check out London Weighting allowances, which nation in the UK did best of of mortgage tax relief, what has happened to North Sea Oil Revenues, Where a larger proportion of the administrators in the Empire came from than one would expect by population. Then there are Scottish inventions which made the nation wealthy. I could go on but one final point which Nation became North Britain and which didn’t become South Britain.
Why shouldn’t small nations subsumed by financial or military strength want some or all of their previous status back?
Some reading material for you
http://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Scots-Invented-Modern-World/dp/0609606352/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410676930&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=h+the+scots+created+the+modern+world
No, this is the natural fallout of a proud peoples being hijacked by the political establishments of two GB nations during 1700s. A political coup if you will. The same establishment has run the combined country for the last 300 years riding rough shod over the rights and wishes of the common people. Who own the country, rather than the robber barons and the establishment they put in place, who stole it from them by force of arms.
The Westminster politicos are a busted flush. They are either socialist who are financial incompetent and prefer to spend other peoples or other generations money on rubbish, or short-term capitalist little Englander fascists who return the countries finances to an even keel at the expense of every one who has to work for a living, then get thrown out of office for the cycle to repeat.
When Scotland votes to leave the Union, great political opportunities for the counties which make up the British Isles are presented. I see nothing wrong with a Federal Republic of the British Isles with equal voting rights for the countries and peoples which take part.
The EU and the Euro, a great socialist idea designed to prevent France from attacking Germany and visa versa every 25 years has worked, but is now failing the Club Med counties. One size doesn’t fit all
The US Food Safety Modernization Act and its equivalent world wide is the modern day equivalent of the Highland Clearances. link
I do not have numbers, I doubt anyone does but similar ‘clearances’ are happening in Africa and Latin America. After all the goal of Agenda 21 is to move people off the land and into cities. The fact that there are no jobs in the cities of Poland or Mexico is not the problem of the planners.
http://youtu.be/NPJSAnm3NTQ
Can an american enter with a comment. You are correct on hijacked. By force of arms, not a political majority. Along with turncoats against national interest. But was the national interest when England conquered your brothers and enslaved them to the military? Come on and re-read your history. And look at it from the other side.
I think you missed to point about 1700s and not now. The UK establishment since that time, was constructed to any avoid any political change over the last 300 years except at last resort. I do see it from both sides. I for one support Scottish independence, if only to get rid of the Scottish Labor Party, which has run the UK as a private benefit fund since 1947. I live in the West Midlands, very little Westminster investment money lands here, other than a white elephant PFI toll motorway. The money has dropped in Scotland, Wales, NI and the strip of land and towns along the M62, and any ethnic community which has rioted. Its about time UK elections benefited the majority, rather than the élites in Westminster and the vested interest minorities.
This afternoon one of my (aging) relatives in the UK informed me that although the pundits find the race “too close to call” she believes that Scotland will secede because the voting includes 18 year olds who don’t like the EEC bureaucrats in Brussels.
If she is right Scotland will be seceding for the right reason.
Just for this one election the Scotsman Parliament has expanded the franchise to include 16 and 17 year old Scotsmen.
According to reports in today’s Sunday Telegraph, children as young as three are on the electoral roll. In some towns there are more under eighteens on the roll than there are eligible young voters that actually live there. Because of security of private information laws, it is not even possible to check the ages once they are on the main roll. This should provide employment for lawyers for years to come should the vote be close, as appears likely.
I don’t understand.
Scotland won’t be voting to leave the E.U., only the U.K.
The Scottish Nationalists want to stay in the E.U.
If Scotland splits from the UK, it automatically leaves the EU. It may then re-apply for membership as an independent nation if it chooses to do so (which it probably will).
But leaving the E.U. isn’t the objective of voting for independence.
They will be straight back in as soon as possible, if not immediately.
The point I am making is that if the young voters think they are voting to leave the E.U. they are wrong.
Actually the last figures I heard of suggested the young were more likely to vote against independence.
“If Scotland splits from the UK, it automatically leaves the EU. It may then re-apply for membership as an independent nation if it chooses to do so (which it probably will).”
Wait, They prefer Brussel over London ? Wasn’t taxation without representation one of the major causes of the American Revolution. What power do you think Scotland would have in Brussel ?
I think Brussels is on record that they won’t admit an independent Scotland to the EU.
So the vote is a two for one win.
I thought the Royal Bank of Scotland’s threat to relocate to London was hilarious. Though, with all the bailouts they are yet likely to need, perhaps a wise move.
there are far more euro sceptics in scotland than the msm would have you believe.remember ukip gained its first scottish mep in the recent european elections.some polls suggest as much as 70% of scots would not want to rejoin the eu if the referendum result is a yes.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/09/12/scotland-heating-up/
Another view
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/12/Next-week-Scotland-will-vote-No-to-independence-Here-are-ten-reasons-why-I-wish-it-would-vote-Yes
And
“Scotland as a country undoubtedly possesses the essential quality, the character and the history of nationhood, but Scotland’s people unfortunately do not”. And more
In “Conclusion” of “Scotland, Bloody Scotland” by The Baron of Ravenstone; Canongate Publishing Edinburgh Scotland
What aborted the drift? Did Scotland crash into Norway?
No,
It drifted back into and clung to the EU
I’m sure whatever the outcome, if we average the Climate Models we will see that the result is clearly due to Global Warming.
Whoa!
Captain Marvel did that once.
The Scots will get the government & politicians that they deserve. Serves them right. Scotch on the rocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_on_the_Rocks
http://www.eureferendum.com/images/000a%20Booker-013%20Scot.jpg
H/T to Dr. Richard North
Dr. Richard North and Chris Booker always have articles worth reading. Even if you do not agree with everything they say, they make you think.
If Scotland can not be an independent nation then Luxemburg also would not qualify nor the Netherlands or Belgium or Chequia or Eslovaquia etc etc
At the end the best thing would be One World Government.
Bite your tongue…
It would have been much better for the world if Britain would have won the war against the rebels in 1775. What a silly idea to become an independent nation.
¿Eslovàquia? ¿Eslovènia? ¿Slavonia?
El meu català no és bo.
http://basementgeographer.com/odds-and-ends-slovakiasloveniaslavonia
Ups
Scotland has historical military and trading ties with Europe, more so than England. Particularly France, Flanders and the Hanseatic league.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/articles/auld_alliance/
http://www.eccentricbliss.com/2012/11/lubeck-letter-of-william-wallace/
http://flemish.wp.st-andrews.ac.uk/2014/01/25/berwick-upon-tweed-and-the-torching-of-the-red-hall/
The Scots supplied soldiers to most European nations as well as trading with them. It is only since the Union that some Scots have become Europhobes like their English cousins
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/scotreg/fortune/index.htm
Looks like the liar-in-chief stuck his oar in on the Scotland issue:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756788/Obama-urges-Scotland-not-ruin-America-s-special-relationship-voting-independence.html
I suspect that may be seen as the tipping point….. i.e. if Barry wants Scotland to remain as part of the UK, that ought to convince the remaining undecided Scots to vote for independence!!
The liar-in-chief has such a wonderful foreign policy record after all…..
Sanity prevailed.
Scotland will get things out of this vote, even though she didn’t secede this time. And the threat to secede is always there, in case they don’t get a few things corrected.
This is not a bad outcome.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see an increase in depression, and possibly suicides in the Scottish population amongst those who have had their hopes raised and dashed by the result.
The resignation of Salmond is an indication that he was deeply disappointed with the result and I wonder whether it was a spur of the moment decision which he may come to regret.
We may see the decline of the SNP and the resurgence of Labour as the former lose the sense of purpose.