Flashes between GISS 1999, and GISS 2014
NASA GISS: Science Briefs: Whither U.S. Climate?
in the U.S. there has been little temperature change in the past 50 years, the time of rapidly increasing greenhouse gases — in fact, there was a slight cooling throughout much of the country
– James Hansen, 1999
If the present refuses to get warmer, the past must become cooler, and government scientists must ramp up the cheating.
GISS employees are students of Bernie Madoff. If you’re going to cheat, cheat big.
I know what you mean, I bet that before you know it the arctic sea ice will be in full recovery mode, the SH sea ice will be setting record highs, the great lakes will set record ice, the NH will have record snow cover, and they will be calling it the warmest year ever.
IN for a penny, in for a pound.
You need to start using quotes around scientists.
Nah, it’s just like the word justice: as soon as you add a modifier it ceases to be justice. So with scientists: as soon as you speak of government scientists you can tell by the addition of the word government that they aren’t actually scientists.
Estudiantes!
https://coloradowellington.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/gorepachaurithegigisup5.jpg
Gore looks like a really bad wax dummy.
Cooling the past to create a false warming trend…very clever, very sneaky; but not too scientific. Something more akin to propaganda or even some kind of con-game.
Interesting this is being done with public moneys by government employees. All for the common good? No. Then why the lies? I’ve heard the answer it’s for power and money, but these people have plenty of both. This is our ruling class and their servants doing this – not some small clique but the mainstream. They already have it all. What’s the point?
So many things just don’t add up to me. Unless, besides being shamelessly mendacious, they (government / media) are also monumentally stupid.
Hmmm. I’ll have to think about that one.
Hey gregole! You say: “I’ve heard the answer it’s for power and money, but these people have plenty of both.”
You point out something very important. How much is enough? How much gambling is enough for a gambling addict? How much heroin is enough for a heroin addict?
Like you, I am unable to fathom why addicts do what they do — but you and I do not understand because we are normal and do not have unbounded desires. The cartoon just above your comment mentioned Bernie Madoff. Some estimates place Madoff’s fraud at $65 billion. $65 billion?! Would Madoff have missed a meal if he had only committed $50 billion in fraud? His actions were not rational — not when judged by the standards appropriate for you and me.
The political system of the US (and other developed nations) is like the Olympics of people who are addicted to power. They will lie, steal, cheat or even kill if it will bring them more power. You are absolutely correct when you say that they have plenty of both; but they do not feel the same way. They are broken inside. They really are not like you or me. They are hungry ghosts who can never be satisfied in this world.Even too much is never enough.
Nicely said Jason. This is what happens when people with no moral compass or “spiritual” anchor are given power. “Flexible” morals allow the power addicts to justify any action and they are the same people who believe the Constitution is a “living document” whose words and meaning may be shaped to meet their whims. They are the spoiled children who must win the game at any cost, but don’t have any game skills and won’t work to learn them. They instead rig the game or cheat or lie to get past “Go.” They carry that same set of “ethical” standards into the adult world and, since they can’t (or won’t) do real work creating things that real people want, they resort to the same tactics that they used to win at “Candyland” or “Monolopy” when they were 6… they cheat and lie and steal in order to “win.” Sadly, most of them end up in professions that require no credible skills or defined products… academia and politics and today a great many journalists (who are killing their own profession.) Most real people don’t enter those fields because they don’t get any satisfaction or sense of achievement from creating nothing of value.
Jason, when Olympians were asked if they could cheat without detection to guarantee a gold medal but that they would lose five years of their lives they overwhelmingly responded in the affirmative. This is the mindset we are dealing with. It occurs because we are soft on them. Rare is the Madoff who is almost completely cast out of society. In all honesty while the economy was crumbling in 2008 and Madoff was exposed I thought we were going to witness him, and many others killed in the street. He was the only one who was hammered and it’s because he was rogue. The institutional cheats all got away with it. They all do it because the penalty is too low and that is because those that came before them created the moral hazard.
Hey bleakhouses! “when Olympians were asked if they could cheat (snip) they overwhelmingly responded in the affirmative.”
Ouch! I had not heard that before…
I do not know how many friends, co-workers, etc., the average person has, but just for the sake of argument, let’s say that there are 100 people you know well enough to have a good grasp of how they will respond to any given situation. Some of them are impulsive, some are smart, some are handsome, etc. Whatever criteria you measure them by, you will find a spectrum of individuals, probably approximating some form of bell curve. When you look at the extremes, out at the end of the bell curve, you will see that one-in-a-hundred aptitude for good or evil. Those people (and people like them) are the ones that we normal humans automatically consider when we are thinking about the extremes of human behaviour. There is nothing wrong or odd about that; we all base judgements on what we commonly experience.
But now, consider what a huge bell curve you would have if you knew 300,000,000 people. You would not only know that one-in-a-hundred person — you would now know that one-in-three-hundred-million person. You would know that person who would cheat and give up five years of life to win a gold medal. You would know that manager who would fire a 14 year employee because they were becoming eligible for a pension at 15 years. You would know that serial killer who can cut a throat without missing a night’s sleep. You would know, (and here comes the scary part!) that lying little creep who has been studying political science since high-school — not out of any civic pride, but rather because he had to, had to, just HAD TO become a Big Man, the guy who gives the orders, the guy who tells everyone else what they must do, the guy who will lie, cheat or even kill if that will put him into power. He HAS to do what he does because he is broken inside.
The bigger the centralized power, the more attraction it holds for those little creeps… The world is a big world, and the US is a big and very powerful nation. Such a big nation and such a big and powerful prize will attract some very, very, broken people — and there are definitely some very broken people out there.
Great questions! And simple answer – always more than they have.
One gas to rule them all.
@Gregole. They have money and power, but they don’t have it all. The goal is total global control. The manipulators pay the manipulated to beat the climate alarm drums plus the manipulated have their own cadre of faithful true believers to spread the word while working for no pay thinking they are doing the right thing. These are known as useful idiots.
The manipulators mental state is unlike ours. They are narcissists with an unquenchable drive to control everyone. Inside all of them is a totalitarian screaming to get out. The road to achieve their goal was decided many years ago. AGW was the answer.
Scizzorbill – you are dead on target in your last paragraph. I’d add one more characteristic, though. These individuals do NOT want to be held accountable to anyone…they see themselves as their own ‘gods’ to do as they please.
They especially abhor the thought that they might be held accountable by…God.
Criminal.
Yes, and lucrative!
But, “The truth will set you free”
http://suyts.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/the-truth-will-set-you-free-why-i-will-not-support-the-hoodiehands-upi-cant-breath-lunatics-protesting-its-a-bunch-of-lies/
Yes, and lucrative!
Only “The truth will set you free”
http://suyts.wordpress.com/2014/12/15/the-truth-will-set-you-free-why-i-will-not-support-the-hoodiehands-upi-cant-breath-lunatics-protesting-its-a-bunch-of-lies/
Sorry. I thought the first post failed.
It’s quite mesmerising watching these graphs flash back and forth, The real fudging seems to start in earnest about 1970. These govt.”scientists” should have a warning on the desk, “Data supplied will result in the clouting with a hockey stick”
Now who’s cheating? A click on the second hyperlink reveals that what you’re presenting in your animation as “US Temperature, 2014” is actually Hansen’s graph for “Global Temperature” with a little doctoring and the label changed. Not very good for your credibility, Mr. Goddard. It’s dumb stuff like this that gives us legitimate climate skeptics a bad name. Clean up your act.
No. Look again. He is presenting GISS’s interpretation of *** US Temperatures *** only. Can you tell us why they are different, David?
I didn’t realize that “legitimate skeptics” could be so confidently ignorant.
Also note that the graphs are labeled boldly “US Temperature” but present “anomalies” instead, which are definitely NOT temperatures! Anomalies are arbitrarily defined (there is no one accepted baseline) using dubious temporal and spatial averaging techniques, along with various and sundry “homoginizations” and “adjustments”. They have very little to do with the thermodynamic temperature from physics. And that is the only temperature that matters…
David, you are confused. There is no tampering. Please look more closely. The 2014 US Temperature graph displayed above is the same US Temperature graph linked to as “Fig.D” The only change (other than a new label) is to truncate it at 1999 so that it can be more easily compared to the ORIGINAL graph as linked to at “NASA GISS”.
I would suggest that when you think you have found a mistake, you should at least start out politely instead of presenting yourself as a self-righteous jerk. Seriously, David, you may be a very bright guy, but you are simply shooting yourself in the foot.
Finally a “legitimate skeptic” shows up – full of mindless conspiracy theories.
I think it’s the flashing lights………..
I could be wrong, and if so, I retract and apologize. I’ll look into it further.
Hey David! Thank you for the polite response. That is not always an easy thing for any of us to do, especially concerning subjects that we feel strongly about. If you look at it and still think it is fishy, I, for one, will be glad to re-examine it as well.
Both the “U.S. Temperature” graph and Hansen’s “Global Temperature” graph are taken from the GISS site (if you doubt this, see the link below). It is certainly not Steven Goddard’s doing if they are similar.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/
This one cracks me up.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/Fig.D.gif
Thanks, Steven, for your analysis of the politics of climate science.
Thanks in part to such analysis and official responses to clear evidence of scientific fraud, even the most basic fields of physics are now being re-examined:
See: “How Today’s Top Scientists are gambling away scientific credibility”:
http://www.thehiggsfake.com/bankruptingphysics.html
http://tgrule.com/2014/12/16/science-is-being-corrupted-by-political-bias/
There is an awesome beauty in the simplicity of the universe. On that one point, honest science and major religions agree.
OT Bush wants to run. The ONLY way GOP will win is with Marc Rubio
And this goes to the top. They ALL know of this corruption – in the White House, the media and in the corridors of science. When the reckoning comes they can offer no excuses.
How can we expect honesty from any branch of government when the POTUS is the 2014 Liar of the Year? Historic indeed….
Liar of which year in particular? I’d mark him a liar for all 2191 days..
Rolling on the floor laughing… link
Awesome.
Too bad they did not ban it. That would have doubled the fun.
I am kind of surprised you are just hearing about that. I remember when it happened.
It will happen again, just watch.
I knew about the petition and some jokesters getting the petition signed by gullible college students, I just never knew it actually made it into a bill.
Idiots will sign any petition. But I linked to that story (the bill) just a couple of days before you posted your link in response to someone claiming it could not happen. The more times that story is linked the better. It shows how stupid can be very deadly.
USHCN temps headed for a new record low for the millenium?
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/national-temperature-index/time-series?datasets%5B%5D=uscrn¶meter=anom-tavg&time_scale=12mo&begyear=1986&endyear=2014&month=11
Who will save our grandparents from the oncoming Ice Age?
Ha! Nice joke…Seriously, it had just enough twist,. I had that moment of “what in the world is he talking about? My grandparents? Doesn’t he — uh…. HA!!” I may steal that line and file off the serial numbers. 🙂
In fact we will cease to exist when our grandparents will come to having had perished in the retroactive cooling.
As one of those grandparents :P, we are in an Ice Age now. Oh, you were talking about the next major glaciation. Never mind.
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This is exactly what they are doing, making the past colder to make the present warmer!